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on second thought i better read the thread first | ||
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can we kill tam for hurting my finger with the scrolling? On May 21 2014 09:55 kushm4sta wrote: The reason why faction games suck is because scum can legitimately scumhunt. So the only way for town to scumhunt is to use connection theories. This is only true to an extent, scum still act differently due to the asymmetrical nature of information in the game and as is especially pertinent in the case of sk;s and other 1 player factions having differing win-cons. In my experience scum being able to legitimately scumhunt often doesn't mean they will. speculation is fun I don't know much about the golden sun games but i'm guessing we got lots of guns and it's likely 1 probably 2 of the 4 factions don't have kp. I am trying to think what a 4 anti-faction would look like and I am thinking 1 or 2 leaning 2 single person factions kinda like BC's Arkham city worked + Show Spoiler [*] + well sudo-random | ||
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serial killer, survivor, arsonist, cult master type shit or flavourlicious roles like batman. there is probably 1 because 4 anti-town factions with multiple people each sounds mad | ||
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On May 21 2014 10:31 BlueyD wrote: Hmmm I don't like layabout much either. Excuses about post count before anyone says anything about him, and a crossed vote on blazinghand (probably the most visible player so far) while pretending he hadn't read the thread. So how did you pick Blazing there if you hadn't read the thread, layabout? RNG just falling on the most visible guy? --- And his most recent post just now has some contradictory ideas about RNG. Open to it in theory, but then lists stuff he hates about it. Mehhh. I always pick blazinghand. I am pretty sure i have picked blazinghand in games he wasn't in. Still reading. It's important to warn people that haven't seen you in games when you generally fall into the "small number of posts even when spending far too much time on the thread than is good for you" group as i tend to. When you don't GoT mafia happens, now you made me think about that game ima go find a nice corner, shudder and cry. | ||
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the shitting up has to stop | ||
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On May 21 2014 11:19 Alakaslam wrote: Ok full moguls here. This is itself far more scummy than me showing up saying "what page we start" I didn't even know game had started so I wanna know where it started, like 31 pages I don't wanna read pregame again And I do read big games otherwise a vig will shoot me and how can I spread the  of the prissy pink Jedi?why would you post this? you aren't attempting to justify calling geripts post scummy and the rest of the post is irrelevant bollocks and whinging. Why are you being so defensive? | ||
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That level of posting would give us over a hundred pages (you are at the top of the 4th page), keeping up your presence and keep the thread active are generally good things but this is destructive, anti-town and it just pisses me off. Your rate of posting is too high for how little you are doing, you aren't moving things forward you are trashing the thread. | ||
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On May 21 2014 11:55 Cephiro wrote: How is not considering the possibility of someone voting on you being scum completely wild? She literally ignores the possibility of me being scum voting on her, as proved by her own thought process. They were my first posts in the game and I instantly pressured/attacked her. And she didn't even think of the possibility of me being scum. Like literally, all her responses screamed that I was town to her. There is no way she could be that sure I am town by just exchanging a post or two with her by that stage. Care to elaborate on your reasoning why it's a completely wild assumption and debunks the whole case? Her posts are logically consistent and represent a reasonable approach to the game particularly for a new player - not wanting to call people scum before you are confident or have had enough time to make an argument that is worth consideration by others. Her tone is generally good and her posting is on the productive side as far as the thread goes. However Your point that she does not consider that you are scum voting for her is significant. She immediately talks to you as if she thinks you are town which is not the typical reaction to being voted for. The interpreting your vote as a mafia read could just be how ninja uses language but it also suggests guilt. And that is my opinion on you case. Pls shoot people that post like austin's hula stuff, it's tempting to go with gut scum reads but town kp is our only way to effectively deal with that crap and in large games the tone of the thread and proportion of inactives and shitposters has a ridiculous impact. | ||
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On May 22 2014 02:43 Blazinghand wrote: sacjnsvdkn sc.,ms cmnas calmsnd c si\js c\scDon't lynch me, I'm Isaac, Hero of Vale! I have important powered needed for us to win, and if I get lynched this game will be much harder. You know this claim is real cause Isaac is like the main character so I would 100% get CCed if there was another Isaac. @everyone who wanted to lynch me: /dunked. j\sc jk\bhscjzkc l;cns\kmn o\ishd j\asdbcj\zn \h \s \s # sa\d cjb saknc a\shilbasdm as/, #s # sadbc sackv .a\w | ||
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On May 21 2014 22:55 jampidampi wrote: So after skimming the thread I realize that I'm left with less time than I'd like to have, so I'll just make a list that will probably never be explained. Would not lynch today: Meapak Hapa Holy poofter BlueyD austin Koshi BH fool geript bkq ceph wave xatalos Preffered lynch: layabout Could lynch today: Valenius thrawn bunnies sqrt Yellow tamburini MysteryMeat No clue: slam marv steveling kitaman cavalinho If I forgot someone then I'm sorry, they belong probably to the no clue list. ##Vote: layabout this is his first and only mention of me. it is unsubstantiated but follows the tone of the thread. a list takes a significant amount of time to produce compared to a sentence or two to explain your vote, he is putting in time but missing out the important bit for a towny. it looks very much like a mafia vote to get a wagon rolling he is giving momentum to a trail of thoughts without adding anything of substance to it whatsoever. I am dissapointed in you guys | ||
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I am not sure if i can be bothered to deal with being under pressure for so long because marv can't read me and people listen to him. Is it worth explaining why you are all wrong? Should i ignore it and try to get someone lynched even though i have just about read the thread? Do i commit intellectual self harm and continue watching heroes after the first season? | ||
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On May 22 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote: why the fuck are you angry and especially at marv? marvs read is sheeped from me and koshi I have limited access i was around at the start when most of the thread was shit. I tried to respond to the relevant bits but i was not reading the thread particularly closely because there isn't much of value around. I get back and a bullshit wagon that only started because i wasn't around when the thread started to get better and because entering a thread that is stacked against you is not all that fun because no one listens to you and very few people will look at what you say the way they should once they start to think you are scummy even if their suspicious were originally quite shaky. marv is right in that i was avoiding taking a stance but that was mostly because i try to be careful at the super early stages and don't like taking stances when i haven't made my mind up, which if you have been reading (unlikely i know) is actually really ironic. cephiros case was the only thing in the thread that i thought was important he asked for opinions and i offered one. But because i didn't end with i" think ninja bunny is ___ so we should(n't) lynch her" i get this. | ||
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##Foolishness Read: WaveofShadow | ||
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@hapa/hol i cant remember what is supposed to be bad about riotsky aside from the talk about bh and yellow having the same alignment for hamping on about rng which doesn't make much sense. geript - notes on steveling: 19. Steveling - annoying and shitting up but very active and gradually becoming more relevant in terms of content scum dont generally post 4 to 5 pages of shit then start playing holy i am careful at the start because i don't generally know what i think and my priority is to try to move into the bit where we are playing "properly". | ||
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holy i think bkqyr posts make decent sense and they are confident to say things that no one else is i might choose to interpret this as town but even if i don't i see no reason to lynch bkqyr i like kush's posting and after scrapping a case i also like hapa | ||
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On May 22 2014 10:24 Holyflare wrote: hapa scrapped a case? or do you mean austin? as in i wrote stuff about happa then scrapped it because i found something. Ima go to bed soon Currently i could support lynches on: jampidampi - unsupported vote that looks to be jumping on a wagon to disappear tamburini -started enthusiatic and with some messy posts gone quiet for over 24 hours having come under pressure possibly worried to post koshi - very many posts but nothing substantial, hiding behind sheeping WoS - watching the thread but not adding to it alakaslam nothing of value + disruptive | ||
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WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says. Layabout doesn't contribute, and when he does its mostly shit filling. I don't believe its the case but frankly if you think WoS is contributing more than me just kill me. He is voting for me but not for any of the (piss-poor) reasons already brought up but for one that isn't valid: That 100% of my posting is shit so i am a shitter. WE HAVE GERIPT STEVELING AND HOLFLARE TAKING DUMPS ALL OVER BUT NO! LAYABOUT IS THE ONE SHITTING UP THE THREAD. This is total bullshit. ritoky cannot believe that argument and that i am mafia for that reason. He is sheep voting with invalid justification. He comes into the thread on day 1 and says that WoS is his top scumread. Before he leave he says that the lynch should be beteen layabout and WoS. he says WOS contributes and I basically don't like much of anything he says. that is the entirety of his comments about WoS. It's almost as if he is trying to not be convincing. tamburini has gone completely quiet since ritoky thought he was scummy. In my eyes te going quiet is pretty scummy since it shows tamburini is worried about posting, but in ritoksy eyes it's cause to drop suspicion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21391985 I think you misread mtam's filter, I was moreso commenting on how I felt his movement back and forth from neutral to scummy, back to neutral was how I was feeling about bunnies. wait no, it wasn't. 12 hours ago mtam is even more suspicous to ritoky. Then tamburini gets a load of votes but rather that go with his scumread that might get lynched he totally ignores it and jumps somewhere else. He is not trying to figure out the gameHowever since then mtam has gotten a lot worse in my mind. He is scum ##vote: ritoky | ||
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I am confused as to why mattisfoolish wants us to kill kush. + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2014 15:55 mattisfoolish wrote: Ninjabunnies I wouldn't lynch. Seems like she's putting effort into the game and is trying to figure things out. In a large game like this it says a lot for a player to be doing that on day 1. Mafia wait to see how cold the water is before treading out. Really I don't think a full analysis is warranted here, reevaluate her in a few days if you're suspicious. We should be after the people who are passively posting in the thread not the ones who are forcing people to talk or giving out reads. If you're not convinced, find a game where she's town/mafia and see what she does on day 1 and compare it to this game. By that I mean ask yourself if she put out thoughts in the thread and forced people to talk or not. I would definitely love to see some pressure on tamburini. Lots of people are hammering for his giant post but I don't think that's warranted. Reasons being: 1) the long post only means something if you think he's mafia and over-compensating to appear town. That means he's trying too hard to be town. 2) The kind of stuff he was saying in the long post is typical of his trollish behavior (for example look at his first 10ish posts here where he's town). 3) If instead of being one long post if that was 10 posts of spam like most people do you probably wouldn't be making these arguments. Instead I'm actually bothered by the following post: Why? He essentially listed about 6 people and said "I'm not sure but maybe..." about them. If you look at his town games he's much more direct about his accusations. Take a look at the following posts from his town games: + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 12:52 mtamburini wrote: Fuck that shit no one is off the table today, I want this Yell0w person to die after everything thats happened. 1 Sarcasm 2 Asking how I can be more towny is not towny. These are 2 really good reasons to push harder on Yell0w. I liked bunnies initial push but wasnt ready to jump on board just yet, wanted Yell0w to talk some more and see what they had to say, and I did not like anything said so far. + Show Spoiler + On April 29 2014 20:10 mtamburini wrote: What question do you want asked, I gave my reasoning on why Yellow should be lynched today.. His sarcastic remarks (joking posts to some) are highly indicative of an experienced mafia not knowing what to say in that situation when caught in a contradiction as bunny pointed out. Next he asks someone how he shouldve responded to that to look more towny. As town people you dont care about acting towny because you are town, as mafia you care about acting towny so no one finds out your mafia. + Show Spoiler + On May 04 2014 15:52 mtamburini wrote: I've got this really paranoid read that if we do not kill Yell0w today we should kill bunnies. Here is why. 1) She pressured Yell0w in beginning and there was mixed emotions on it with a lot of people defending him and she retracted her vote on him. She said something like well whatever then I wont vote on him. She can easily take her vote off and seem towny for it, but also she can be mafia with yell0w and then pressure him a bit with some reasoning that I liked but a lot of people didnt. Im a little confused I think there is at least one between them. Either bunnies is town and mafia defended Yell0w who is also mafia OR Trying to soft bus on Yell0w and see reactions from others and one of her partners steps in and defends Yell0w to gain some cred and distance themselves from bunnies. OR Yell0w is town Bunnies tried to get an easy ML on yell0w but no one was willing to go on it (but me afterwards) and her mafia partners distance away form her again. 2) It may be a stupid reason but she posted before she was drunk/tipsy then comes out the next day and says she got roleblocked. Why not say it in her first post? I mean OGI maybe but you do get notified when roleblocked so I dont think she does not check her inbox to see what message she got. a) Shes mafia and didnt really care if she got roleblocked b) Shes mafia and is faking she got roleblocked after reading whats happened. Shes already said shes not a role so she is probably gonna skate by today because of that but its something that is stuck in the back of my head and it gives me nightmares Look at how direct his accusations are. In the first spoiler post against yell0w (from the previous game not the current one we are in) he wrote that about 4 hours in. "This person is mafia because they did X Y and Z. If we're not lying this person we're lynching this other person because A and B". That's the kind of town that I like, not afraid to speak his mind and push what he thinks is right. His accusations this game (if you can even call them that) have not displayed the same level of directness. As a mafia, he would want to be doing that so he doesn't have to take responsibility later on. ##Vote: mtamburini Hilariously after these posts I've pretty much read the entire game of Newbie Mini LV. Initial read on him is town. Remind me to read him again at night or day 2 if we're still around I'm looking at others first. And yes I'll be mindful of giving updates where I stand. As much as I'd like to I'm not just going to completely ignore the thread and everyone in it. I'll try to remember to sign the posts, but I said in my very first post that Mattchew is going to be gone for about a week. I don't think he'll have time to post until then so just assume it's Foolishness for now. --Foolishness If you open up the spoilers and look at the post foolishness is focusing on you will see that tamburini is asked about 8 players and then gives his thoughts on those 8 players. He does this an an early stage and says what he thinks rather than labeling each player. Foolishness then tries to use meta to show that tamburni is playing differently but foolishness ignores the context of the things he is comparing He compares tamburini playing in a mini pushing a read with confidence to tamburini responding to a question about his thoughts with his thoughts. I expect a lot more from foolishness and that doesn't sit right with me. | ||
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