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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:28 VisceraEyes wrote: No you're right it's probably most likely a scum reaction. Scum vote themselves off the island all the time right? I find that scum are more likely to overreact and quit if they feel that the effort it's going to required isn't going to save themselves. Town has a reason to keeping going since the analysis actually has value once they flip. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Gonzaw, come over to the sunny side, we still have cookies. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:37 gonzaw wrote: Yes.austin, what do you think about what I posted about Wave?: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137¤tpage=81#1610 Do you still prefer to lynch him over Toad? On January 23 2014 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote: It's not about saying one scummier than other. It's about saying "like someone else said, sandroba was actively engaging the thread when he was around." I was the guy he was talking to. I got a couple posts from him, all of them not quite about what I was asking, and then he dipped. Not so much a +1 as I LOVE THIS, but a +1 like..."someone brought this up and it carries weight with my read."And for the record I probably am probably scummier on inactive Foolishness than inactive sandroba. Could be bias because I have precedent in PYP for sandroba in terms of an early game lurk then blasting onto the scene, but as was mentioend before (I forget by who atm?) sandroba was actively engaging the thread when he was around, whereas Foolishness basically hasn't talked to anyone, he just threw stuff and fucked off multiple times. At this point, On January 26 2014 06:07 Toadesstern wrote: I haven't looked into VE yet and like I said, I want to see how he changes tomorrow. But VE makes sense given the situation we're in assuming my read on Foo is right. I'd much rather lynch Foo before lynching into VE because of nothing but "because he'd make sense together with Foo" if Foo hasn't even flipped yet... I haven't looked into VE yet is NOT AN OPTION/EXCUSE/WHATEVER. If you want VE alive tomorrow, you gotta do something about it. If you don't care, you're fine not to read him. But not looking into one of two main lynch candidates because you want to read his posts tomorrow is smelly. Why do you care if he changes tomorrow if you haven't looked into his D1/N1/D2? How are you going to know if ANYTHING changes? What sort of change are you looking for if you have no basis/read to work from? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 26 2014 05:22 gonzaw wrote: Foolishness, are you around? Depends on what you mean by around. If your vote is on WoS I will 100% respond to any questions you ask. If your vote is on VE I'll probably respond as long as it's a good question. If your vote is on me then I probably won't care as I need to figure out whether it's mafia pushing on me or just paranoid townies so you guys have sufficient information for the next few days. What's up? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:34 Toadesstern wrote: Well this might be another explanation to gonzaws question: Mafia was confident that foolishness isn't going to get lynched because VE would keep doing whatever and this all ended up being a minor gamble. Gonzaw, come over to the sunny side, we still have cookies. On January 26 2014 05:59 Toadesstern wrote: I've mentioned that I got cold feet right now, didn't I? It's for a reason... Foo+VE seems to be the most logical explanation right now simply because VE does whatever. If that's not the case then I'd say mafia has no long term plan and tries to hang on by a day by day basis and watch what can be done. So pretty much hoping for paranoia after a while and hope to somehow get people to lynch into one of the other 4 people. Come again? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:35 Foolishness wrote: And in case it isn't clear I still maintain that WoS is a better lynch than VE. VE I can see as being town, WoS not so much. You better come up with a 10 page essay about this if you want to convince me you really believe this. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:36 gonzaw wrote: Who's the other scum then Toad? kita, WoS, or a "confirmed"? in the case you quoted? Could be WoS or Kita. First assumption would be kita because he's the guy who just unvoted and voted VE but could as well be mafia banking on one guy hopping over. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 26 2014 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm apathetic...I don't care anymore if you guys think I'm scum because I have literally done nothing this phase. On January 26 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote: My first priority is to find scum. And I've been trying, but I get shit on every time I try. Err so which one is it? | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:38 gonzaw wrote: You better come up with a 10 page essay about this if you want to convince me you really believe this. Because VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth. WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday. But I could very well be wrong on both accounts. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:42 Foolishness wrote: Because VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth. WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday. But I could very well be wrong on both accounts. Didn't VE admit that he is not trying? (See above) | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2? You guys think he can still be scum based on that? Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something? Like I really want to know. At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin) | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:42 Foolishness wrote: Because VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth. WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday. But I could very well be wrong on both accounts. I'm getting the opposite impression. Wave has been around and interacting with the thread, while VE has just returned recently. You haven't commented on any of WoS's posts for quite a while. Does all the newer stuff still lead you to the same conclusion? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:42 Foolishness wrote: Because VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth. WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday. But I could very well be wrong on both accounts. I'm trying really hard not to unvote VE and vote for you Foo I really am. Have you read the thread at all? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I don't know who of these 2 to lynch right now. marvy, where are you when I need you? ;_; | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Trying to think if VE + Foolishness makes sense though. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On January 26 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote: A lot of his filter is his GIANT posts. The size doesn't necessarily equate to content though. His giant giant posts are VE is town, Prome is scum. Okay, can someone tell me why Wave isn't town based on his activity so far? Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2? You guys think he can still be scum based on that? Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something? Like I really want to know. At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin) But his reasons for VE being town are kinda murky, and he spends boatloads and boatloads of time on all these little things that make Prome scum, despite Prome being pretty much off the table (it would seem for WoS as well? I have not seen him pushing Prome lately). So while there's a lot, a bunch of it is stuff that nobody really believes, and it picks up after we lynch a mafia. You can say he's responding to pressure by posting a bunch, either side can do that (I know not all mafia do, but I know I've gone post-crazy as mafia, and we don't have a good example of WoS's scumplay so it's unknown). Maybe it's knowing that town lynched mafia D1 and WoS/buddy need to kick things into gear and take control. Add in Hapa and others finding his D1 scummy. Whatever his D2 is, his D1 still exists. Also just minor nitpicky stuff. Putting some credence in the argument that sandroba was around and active. | ||
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