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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:34 GMT
#1781
On January 26 2014 05:30 austinmcc wrote:
I suppose mindvotes do not count

##vote: VisceraEyes


Let's test that

##Mindvote: austin
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 20:35 GMT
#1782
Mostly afk while cooking delicious foods. Still considering. I don't think I'm straying from VE and Foolishness today. Don't want to vote Toad right now, so if I strayed it would be possible WoS (weird townread on VE, some posts with a small quantity of meat (same applies to Foolishness), and he also +1ed Foolishness's "sandroba active now so he's probably townie" statement).

Kita is entirely off my radar in a bad way, I have not chatted with him today like I wanted to, and when I think of his filter this game, nothing particularly good or bad springs to mind. He's also still the probably candidate for a Foolishness partner, i THINK.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:37 GMT
#1783
austin, what do you think about what I posted about Wave?:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=81#1610

Do you still prefer to lynch him over Toad?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:39 GMT
#1784
On January 26 2014 05:35 austinmcc wrote:
Mostly afk while cooking delicious foods. Still considering. I don't think I'm straying from VE and Foolishness today. Don't want to vote Toad right now, so if I strayed it would be possible WoS (weird townread on VE, some posts with a small quantity of meat (same applies to Foolishness), and he also +1ed Foolishness's "sandroba active now so he's probably townie" statement).

Kita is entirely off my radar in a bad way, I have not chatted with him today like I wanted to, and when I think of his filter this game, nothing particularly good or bad springs to mind. He's also still the probably candidate for a Foolishness partner, i THINK.

Can you show me that?
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:40 GMT
#1785
We are at 4v4 (votes on Foo and VE) right now.
Very interesting...

I'm REALLY interested on what Foo has to say when he gets here. Will he keep FoSing WoS? Will he vote VE to save himself?

Does anybody have any thoughts about this lynch polarity right now?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:41 GMT
#1786
Because as far as I can tell the only post that's even remotely similar to that is this:
On January 23 2014 04:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
And for the record I probably am probably scummier on inactive Foolishness than inactive sandroba. Could be bias because I have precedent in PYP for sandroba in terms of an early game lurk then blasting onto the scene, but as was mentioend before (I forget by who atm?) sandroba was actively engaging the thread when he was around, whereas Foolishness basically hasn't talked to anyone, he just threw stuff and fucked off multiple times.


In which all I say is I find Foolishness scummier than sandroba, not that he is town. And if they are both scum, well then I consider myself correct.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:44 GMT
#1787
On January 26 2014 05:40 gonzaw wrote:
We are at 4v4 (votes on Foo and VE) right now.
Very interesting...

I'm REALLY interested on what Foo has to say when he gets here. Will he keep FoSing WoS? Will he vote VE to save himself?

Does anybody have any thoughts about this lynch polarity right now?

And that's why I ask about shenanigans, because the dead-heat means conditions are prime.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:46 GMT
#1788
Something interesting to see, is this:

On January 25 2014 09:35 Foolishness wrote:
Town wins if WaveOfShadow, VisceraEyes, Kitaman, and Toad all die.


On January 26 2014 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 03:49 gonzaw wrote:
On January 26 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 26 2014 03:45 gonzaw wrote:
On January 26 2014 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nah I'm good on Wave. Like, Hapa died in a game with marv, Foolishness, kitaman etc. There must be a reason. I can't imagine that reason is framing Wave, but I concede that it's possible.


Would be fine and dandy except you spend I dunno how many posts saying Wave is town.

I have this thing about calling people town who think I'm town. I'm trying to not take that into account.


But are willing to take into account some WIFOM shit about Hapa getting killed, and thus Wave is scum?
Also, remember Hapa made that super case against Wave after scum's resolution period (where they had to send the kill) was over. There wasn't really any reason to think Hapa was 100% against Wave before that (Hapa was actually absent most of N1 by then).
If scum killed Hapa, I can almost guarantee you it's not because they wanted to frame Wave. At least not in an obvious manner.

Actually I did NOT take that into account. Thanks gonzaw.

##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness

On January 25 2014 10:46 kitaman27 wrote:
...

Foolishness is mafia

##Vote Foolishness

On January 26 2014 01:48 Toadesstern wrote:...

##unvote
##vote Foolishness


On January 25 2014 02:23 WaveofShadow wrote:...

I'm actually pretty pumped now tbh.
And I remembered something I should have remembered a while ago.
I feel pretty damn good about this right now, fuck the conspiracy theory for now, fuck VE, this is where we go today.
##Vote: Foolishness

Explain soon, and reading Toad.


Interesting again...
There are 5 "unconfirmed" people right now: Wave, kita, VE, Toad, Foolishness.
4 of them are voting the remaining one (Foo), specially after Foo posted so much about how the remaining scum is in that group of 4 (removing himself from it of course).

All the "confirmed" people (me, marv, austin, Prome) are voting for VE
All the "unconfirmed" people (Wave, kita, VE, Toad) are voting for Foo.
Interesting dichotomy here. Does anyone have any explanation on that one?

How come the people that are comfortable being "almost confirmed town", are going against VE and leaving Foolishness be for now, yet the people getting the most pressure and getting accused are happily going against Foolishness?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:48 GMT
#1789
I mean, it's interesting because it's very likely the scum is in that group of 5 "unconfirmed". Thus, the scum (or at least 1 of them if Foo is scum) are basically ignoring the "super townies" and going straight against the wall against Foo.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:51 GMT
#1790
On January 26 2014 05:48 gonzaw wrote:
I mean, it's interesting because it's very likely the scum is in that group of 5 "unconfirmed". Thus, the scum (or at least 1 of them if Foo is scum) are basically ignoring the "super townies" and going straight against the wall against Foo.

It's sort of interesting, but it doesn't really explain much, especially if Foolishness is scum because he's not voting for either himself or VE. Like all that says if I'm right is that one scum is bussing Foolishness right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 20:53 GMT
#1791
One way I think about it is this: By doing so, the scum in the "unconfirmed" blend in pretty well. If ALL the "unconfirmed" vote for Foo once the day ends...how do you distinguish between them? They all voted the same guy for the same reasons basically, you can't really differentiate them that much. This is independent on whether Foo is scum or not.

If Foo is scum, then 3 out of those 4 is town, and 1 is scum. The scum is jumping on the bus on Foo. But why? This makes it very likely Foo gets lynched, yet by sheeping the "confirmed", he can easily get VE lynched...if VE is not scum. Would he be scared, because he "jumps out" of all the other unconfirmed by being the only "unconfirmed" on VE? Then if VE flips town he'd be put under scrutiny? But bussing Foo is basically losing the game right now, isn't it? Wouldn't he take the chance? Or maybe he thinks Foo is still not getting lynched today and is bussing him anyways?

Of course, a very interesting scenario is both VE and Foo being scum.


Wave, Toad, kita, VE. You guys are the ones doing this. What do you think of this phenomenon?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 20:55 GMT
#1792
On January 26 2014 05:53 gonzaw wrote:
One way I think about it is this: By doing so, the scum in the "unconfirmed" blend in pretty well. If ALL the "unconfirmed" vote for Foo once the day ends...how do you distinguish between them? They all voted the same guy for the same reasons basically, you can't really differentiate them that much. This is independent on whether Foo is scum or not.

If Foo is scum, then 3 out of those 4 is town, and 1 is scum. The scum is jumping on the bus on Foo. But why? This makes it very likely Foo gets lynched, yet by sheeping the "confirmed", he can easily get VE lynched...if VE is not scum. Would he be scared, because he "jumps out" of all the other unconfirmed by being the only "unconfirmed" on VE? Then if VE flips town he'd be put under scrutiny? But bussing Foo is basically losing the game right now, isn't it? Wouldn't he take the chance? Or maybe he thinks Foo is still not getting lynched today and is bussing him anyways?

Of course, a very interesting scenario is both VE and Foo being scum.


Wave, Toad, kita, VE. You guys are the ones doing this. What do you think of this phenomenon?

Personally if you're going to use this to try and assume scum is in the 'unconfirmed,' then this almost confirms me as town. I was the first on Foolishness today (and technically even yesterday at your urging), and I have been hardcore defending VE since the start of the game, when it would have been super easy for me to retract that read at any time considering the pressure I was under and get an easy mislynch.

VE and Foo could both be scum as well, yes.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2014 20:59 GMT
#1793
On January 26 2014 05:53 gonzaw wrote:
One way I think about it is this: By doing so, the scum in the "unconfirmed" blend in pretty well. If ALL the "unconfirmed" vote for Foo once the day ends...how do you distinguish between them? They all voted the same guy for the same reasons basically, you can't really differentiate them that much. This is independent on whether Foo is scum or not.

If Foo is scum, then 3 out of those 4 is town, and 1 is scum. The scum is jumping on the bus on Foo. But why? This makes it very likely Foo gets lynched, yet by sheeping the "confirmed", he can easily get VE lynched...if VE is not scum. Would he be scared, because he "jumps out" of all the other unconfirmed by being the only "unconfirmed" on VE? Then if VE flips town he'd be put under scrutiny? But bussing Foo is basically losing the game right now, isn't it? Wouldn't he take the chance? Or maybe he thinks Foo is still not getting lynched today and is bussing him anyways?

Of course, a very interesting scenario is both VE and Foo being scum.


Wave, Toad, kita, VE. You guys are the ones doing this. What do you think of this phenomenon?

I've mentioned that I got cold feet right now, didn't I? It's for a reason...

Foo+VE seems to be the most logical explanation right now simply because VE does whatever.
If that's not the case then I'd say mafia has no long term plan and tries to hang on by a day by day basis and watch what can be done. So pretty much hoping for paranoia after a while and hope to somehow get people to lynch into one of the other 4 people.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:03 GMT
#1794
So Toad, you are happy with any of VE or Foo getting lynched today then?
I'd really like your thoughts on VE
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 25 2014 21:06 GMT
#1795
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#1796
On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.

lol so in other words you'd vote anybody if it wasn't you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#1797
On January 26 2014 06:03 gonzaw wrote:
So Toad, you are happy with any of VE or Foo getting lynched today then?
I'd really like your thoughts on VE

I haven't looked into VE yet and like I said, I want to see how he changes tomorrow. But VE makes sense given the situation we're in assuming my read on Foo is right. I'd much rather lynch Foo before lynching into VE because of nothing but "because he'd make sense together with Foo" if Foo hasn't even flipped yet...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:08 GMT
#1798
On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.


No. Explain what made you go from "He's obvious town and my only ally in this whole game!" to "I'd lynch him too"
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:09 GMT
#1799
On January 26 2014 06:07 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 06:03 gonzaw wrote:
So Toad, you are happy with any of VE or Foo getting lynched today then?
I'd really like your thoughts on VE

I haven't looked into VE yet and like I said, I want to see how he changes tomorrow. But VE makes sense given the situation we're in assuming my read on Foo is right. I'd much rather lynch Foo before lynching into VE because of nothing but "because he'd make sense together with Foo" if Foo hasn't even flipped yet...


No. Lynch is in 2 hours, don't see how he "changes tomorrow", specially if he is getting lynched right now
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 25 2014 21:09 GMT
#1800
On January 26 2014 06:08 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
I would vote for Kita if the "confirmed" people wanted to not lynch VE. Toad too maybe. WoS too maybe. Looking at Foolish' posts makes me not want to vote for him though, and Toad's explanations make me like the whole thing less.

I think Kita is my preference though.


No. Explain what made you go from "He's obvious town and my only ally in this whole game!" to "I'd lynch him too"

Yeah I haven't gotten an answer to this either. It's like VE wants me to vote for him.
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