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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:51 GMT
#1841
"VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth" ....

Wha...
How is VE wanting to lynch ANYBODY other than him (from the "unconfirmed"), not really caring (and explicitely stating so), being "trying to figure things out"?

"WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday." ...

WoS "seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday", "he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda"....wtf?

Is he just ignoring everything WoS is doing this D2? Like being active as fuck, pressuring everybody, trying to figure things out (hey! Isn't that what VE was doing?), etc.

Is this guy serious?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 25 2014 21:53 GMT
#1842
Foolishness, how caught up with the thread you are and how much time have you spent looking into VE and WoS?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:54 GMT
#1843
On January 26 2014 06:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, can someone tell me why Wave isn't town based on his activity so far?
Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2?

You guys think he can still be scum based on that?
Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something?
Like I really want to know.
At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc
This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin)
A lot of his filter is his GIANT posts. The size doesn't necessarily equate to content though. His giant giant posts are VE is town, Prome is scum.

But his reasons for VE being town are kinda murky, and he spends boatloads and boatloads of time on all these little things that make Prome scum, despite Prome being pretty much off the table (it would seem for WoS as well? I have not seen him pushing Prome lately)


We (or well..I) are not really talking about those posts of his, but mostly the latest ones. The ones he discusses with Toad, with me, about a lot of subjects, like VE, Toad, Foolishness, marv, kita, etc.
Still, it takes a LOT of effort to put those 4 walls of text of his with the "bad" cases of town VE and scum Prome. You think he, as scum, would just straight up ignore them later? If I make a wall of text like that as scum you sure as hell bet I'm gonna keep with them. Not going to put effort in vain.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 25 2014 21:54 GMT
#1844
On January 26 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, can someone tell me why Wave isn't town based on his activity so far?
Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2?

You guys think he can still be scum based on that?
Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something?
Like I really want to know.
At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc
This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin)

To be honest there's 12 pages or so I haven't read yet. Was making myself known in case someone had important things to ask me before they lynch.

Quality over quantity?

I mean I stated this before and that I'm happy with either lynch. When I say that I think WoS is better lynch it's a difference between "95% would lynch WoS, 90% would lynch VE".

I just have a feeling that VE has a chance to flip town, call it a gut read or instinct or what have you. There's not a huge basis for it, just a feeling. Even after reading his filter again I'm struggling to explain why.

Remember the four people I said that if we lynch the town wins? Yeah he's on it so no problems if he gets lynched.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 25 2014 21:54 GMT
#1845
On January 26 2014 06:51 gonzaw wrote:
"VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth" ....

Wha...
How is VE wanting to lynch ANYBODY other than him (from the "unconfirmed"), not really caring (and explicitely stating so), being "trying to figure things out"?

"WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday." ...

WoS "seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday", "he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda"....wtf?

Is he just ignoring everything WoS is doing this D2? Like being active as fuck, pressuring everybody, trying to figure things out (hey! Isn't that what VE was doing?), etc.

Is this guy serious?

/ignore

Still 11 pages behind kitaman
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 21:56 GMT
#1846
Then don't post stuff like that if you still haven't read the thread...
...still, it doesn't really make sense.

But whatever
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#1847
On January 26 2014 06:56 gonzaw wrote:
Then don't post stuff like that if you still haven't read the thread...
...still, it doesn't really make sense.

But whatever

What doesn't make sense?

I told you I will respond to questions. You just saying I don't make sense is not productive, not contributing information, not generating information, and not helping the town. Instead it is distracting the town, and pissing people off.

I will be here for the next hour, if you want stuff from me, don't be sarcastic and don't be egotistical.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#1848
Okay.

Can you give reasoning and proof behind these two statements?
On January 26 2014 06:42 Foolishness wrote:
VE actually seems like he's trying to figure things out and is listening to arguments brought forth.

WoS seems very headset on lynching a few people (he's pushing what could be a mafia agenda) and seems to be ignoring critical information brought forth about the lynch yesterday.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 22:25:52
January 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#1849
Vote Count - Deadline at Saturday, Jan 25 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
VisceraEyes (5): marvellosity, Promethelax, gonzaw, austinmcc, kitaman27, VisceraEyes, gonzaw
Foolishness (2): WaveofShadow, Toadesstern, kitaman27, VisceraEyes, VisceraEyes
WaveofShadow (1): Foolishness, VisceraEyes, Toadesstern
kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes
Toadesstern (0): gonzaw

Not voted (0)

Please inform us if there are any mistakes!

Currently VisceraEyes is set to be lynched.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 22:08 GMT
#1850
Okay, who will be active here until deadline?
Foolishness, and who else?

Prome, will you be here? Toad, kita, austin? ...VE?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#1851
Each of these posts from Wave came at the point where foolishness was caught up with the thread. All but one came at a point where Foolishness released his Prom is town analysis. Why is is giving us the vote analysis for a town tell instead of commenting on the content released by his number one scum read? At the point where Foolishness's original analysis was made, Wave's filter was essentially empty. Now that he actually does post, would you think it would be worth looking at? The original argument was that Wave was wishy-washy and wasn't pushing a lynch. Now it seems to be that Wave is pushing certain lynches with a mafia agenda. Foolishness said that Wave is ignoring crucial information, yet sticks with the generic phrase, rather than providing examples. Wouldn't it make sense to show why these posts support your original argument?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=64#1275
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=64#1276
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=65#1281
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=65#1284
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=81#1613
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=67#1330
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439137&currentpage=72#1428
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 25 2014 22:09 GMT
#1852
I'll be here.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
January 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#1853
On January 26 2014 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, who will be active here until deadline?
Foolishness, and who else?

Prome, will you be here? Toad, kita, austin? ...VE?
Nope. Packing up food now, headed to a cookoff.

I will have pictures to prove, if necessary.
Fe fi fo fum.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2014 22:10 GMT
#1854
I've voted WoS earlier on and should be on that list canceled out if that matters

Foolish, how about you explain how WoS + me being mafia makes any sense whatsoever when you've been saying that it's probably VE+WoS all the time
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#1855
I'm here, I'm doing something else but I f5 in 10 minute intervalls or so
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#1856
On January 26 2014 07:10 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 07:08 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, who will be active here until deadline?
Foolishness, and who else?

Prome, will you be here? Toad, kita, austin? ...VE?
Nope. Packing up food now, headed to a cookoff.

I will have pictures to prove, if necessary.


Quick: You still wanna vote VE after Foo's new "entrance"?

Because you, WoS and marvy won't be around. Those are 3 votes we'll lose, which maybe, maybe we could need to decide the lynch more near the deadline
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
January 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1857
Well Foolishness is voting VE no matter what this cycle. He just isn't ready to admit it.

Me and gonzaw would be enough to decide the lynch either way, assuming that VE doesn't end the cycle off by himself.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
January 25 2014 22:14 GMT
#1858
This post is me talking as co-runner of the TL mafia forum, and should not be taken seriously regards to what is happening in this game.

Don't bring Shadows into the argument or the fact that this is a coaching game when you are talking to someone. This is a game being played primarily for educational purposes so that everyone (including us playing right now) can learn something and get better. Posts like these:
On January 26 2014 04:20 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
If you want. Am I going to take it the wrong way? Be prepared for me to take it the wrong way.
I don't actually want you to post anything, but wtf does your shadow QT look like if you're going to be apathetic already on D2?

You're not just town or scum, you're town or scum and sharing your thoughts on the game with someone this game. I think that makes it markedly different than any normal game you could ragequit or be apathetic in. You're not coaching, but you're...at least opening up your thoughts to someone.

But you're content to just...give up?

are not and will not be tolerated (and this isn't the only post I've seen so far).

This kind of attitude will not be tolerated from anyone, and you should be ashamed of yourself for bringing up these kind of arguments. We all respect each other here, and any sort of disrespect not only makes you look bad but also sets a bad precedence for the future.

We all love each other, so be loving when talking to someone else <3
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 22:15 GMT
#1859
<3
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
January 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#1860
On January 26 2014 07:14 kitaman27 wrote:
Well Foolishness is voting VE no matter what this cycle. He just isn't ready to admit it.

Me and gonzaw would be enough to decide the lynch either way, assuming that VE doesn't end the cycle off by himself.


Hmm, yeah, we are both voting VE, so we can end the lynch on Foo if we want.

You think there's something wrong with a VE+Foo scum team perhaps?
I initially thought it'd be kind of impossible, since VE parked his vote on Foo on D1 and kept it there doing nothing, even with Foo gaining 6 votes. But well.....scum be scum perhaps?
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