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On February 01 2014 08:35 Toadesstern wrote: btw when you asked me if I would voteswitch I obviously knew that I'm mafia (duh), I knew that I shouldn't post what I had in preview (telling you that I won't switch) and that that's super risky but still ended up posting it because I felt to bad for you and didn't want you to waste 5 hours or so  Honestly thanks for doing that. I got to get three hours of sleep before a twelve hour shift. It was alright play since I was clearly so demotivated. I don't hold it against you at all. | ||
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Original Message From geript: I'll be clear and try and not talk about any random reads I've picked up on people in reading. I've honestly just been reading the game and not actually trying to process it in any reasonable fashion. So it wasn't until the last post + Show Spoiler + On January 23 2014 15:12 Promethelax wrote: So from this I'd say at least one scum is not on sandro and if a scum is on sand he isn't around at deadline. Since all votes on sand were at deadline only Austin/Marv could be scum voters since they'd be the ones believing scumdroba wouldn't be lynched and getting credit from it (assuming fool is town, not a great assumption though) think Marv is better at reading thread sentiment and would know that the switch was going to happen moe than Austin. Gonzaw, me, Hapa are town from lynch. Gon/hap town already anyways so I don't learn anything here. Marv and Kita look bad for unvoting scum. Kita more than Marv. I think. Not sure. I would not be shocked if last two scum are in WoS, VE, holy, fool Kita. I need to looking to possible pairs. I think VE is best .ynch of those. Going to reread sand now. Pregame you espouse concern (understandably) about rolling scum in this setup. Later on you say the following: It's not that there's a contrast between the two points of view; it's actually quite easy to have both at the same time. However, the entrance into the thread is what I would classify as a "comfort zone" post. The point of the post isn't to actually do anything other than put you in a zone where you feel comfortable and safe to act. I just have a very hard time reading this entrance to the game as one coming from a place confidence and "fuck it I expect you to play." Additionally, in your series of drunk posts you want to espouse reads but not really go into them. Rather the thing you latch onto is this minor bit of thread sentiment about VE not caring about the lynch. Like instead of hammer out an analyze him as a player and his actions as a whole and drill him for being scum, you're more interested in painting him as scummy and getting a lynch. Like there's no concern about mislynching him. The early WoS town read is pretty odd as well. I really don't care about people giving out town reads; it happens too much right now. But it's in how you approach the read. There's no clear methodology to it. More importantly, it's really weird for town to have a mostly accurate heuristic that they use on a player and completely forget about it. This is exacerbated by the fact that despite this read, you haven't gone back and done a full analysis of him. Granted, there's no way you get shot tonight (if you're town), but I would expect that as town you'd try to move the lynch via different means other than +1ing. Like, I don't see where you're taking responsibility for the next lynch in any way; and for you that reads as scummy to me because (as town) you'd be aware that your neck is out there as well. Next there's the sandroba vote. + Show Spoiler + On January 23 2014 07:57 Promethelax wrote: Fuck it, we do it live [b]##unvote ##vote sandroba[b] The last thing that I've noticed is that you seem to be approaching the game from a "who's an available mislynch candidate" aspect. Like as town, I've noticed that you want to look to avoid mislynches. But you're reading to see where you can push a lynch instead of where you should push a lynch. Slowly crossing off people as they are unavailable for mislynches. So am I right? | ||
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On February 01 2014 08:55 Toadesstern wrote: come on no need to be a dick about it. Not everyone has your style of posting a crapton no matter of alignment and I'm happy it's not like that. Nothing against you but if everyone would post as much as you we'd have 300 page Day-1 games. @Gonzaw The thing is I do have that style. I agreed to play this game be ause 1. Artanis is my bro and 2. I fucking love the concept. I greatly overestimated the time I could devote to this game, wedding planning and my last semester of school are kicking my butt and I didn't do everything I could to play my best. I deserve to be derided for my play here. It was bad and I feel bad. | ||
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On February 01 2014 09:00 gonzaw wrote: Yeah, I guess intent isn't really shown in text form. For instance, if I say ARTANIS YOU FUCKING SUCK, nobody would know I was saying that with an aroused boner, and may think I'm being a dick to you. The downsides of forums.... This is a problem I have in both forums and real life. Apparently I sound serious all the time, | ||
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On February 17 2014 13:34 Pniski wrote: I'd like to participate in the next game. Is there a chance anyone could estimate when that could be? It will be a little while, the currant newbie game just started 24 hours ago. Feel free to sign up as a replacement for that game or join the observer qt; either way keep your eye out for newbie mini mafia LIII which will be open for sign ups within a week I'd guess. | ||
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I've tried to add a lesson to learn from each player to make you/the games you play in better. You don't have to take that, or any, lesson from these players but they are things I hope you'll consider. 1. Foolishness -a persinal hero of mine when it comes to mafia. He has my all time favourite town filter in Aperture Mafia. If you have extra time in your life I urge you to read at least his filter. He posted entirely in limericks and singlehandedly saved a doomed town. In my one town game with him he royally screwed the pooch and was a useless shit bag (along with the rest of town) we lost the game without flipping a single scum. His scum play recently has been very flawed though I believe that most, if not all, players will be trying their upmost in this game which should rectify the major mistakes exhibited in his play: namely caring not a single fig. Foolishness is a paragon of wonderment, he has a power to his words you'd do well to accquire. Once you learn how share the secret with me. 2. Marvellosity -My first mafia coach, as scum, and one of the single best players to have ever touched a game of mafia. He excells as both town and scum but I am pretty sure I can read him correctly due to our long history together both in and out of games. He coached me for many months and made me the player I am today. Of all the players in this game he is the most likely to preform excellently as either alignment. One thing that marv does which everyone should do: remains active throughout the game as either alignment. 3. Promethelax -As mentioned in pre-game one of the weaker players in the game. I would rate my play as generally better than Holyflare, WoS and Austin while being on about the same level as VE, Hapa and Gonzaw. We shall see how accurate that rating is in this game. I have been playing mafia for about two years, I have an exceptional town play and a weak (though mostly untested) scum play. My recent scum games have been failures though mostly through the fault of my availability. I had one exceptional scum game as a newbie which in many ways was similar to your own recent game where I lead the town by the nose and won a perfect scum victory; since that time my scum play has been lacking a certain flair. My town game can be seen in the recently completed LoL  YP where I was alive for 24 hours before being killed by scum. I suggest that if you are interested you do your own research on me since my explanation of my own skill is, necessarily, biased. Most of my past games are linked in my profile. A thing I try to do is listen to the newer players, they may not have the best ideas now but fostering them now will lead to their playing better games in the future. Always play the long game.4. Austinmcc -One of the funniest people I have ever played with. An all around good guy though not the mafia power house of many of the other names in this list. I have never seen Austin lead a town as either alignment though he is an excellent second for a town leader. He holds a position I often find myself in of being decent but not exceptional. One of the weaker names on this list though he has the potential to come up big as do all players. Of all the people playing this game he is one of the most likeable and that can do a lot to improve a game. Learn from Austin: have fun. 5. Sandroba -An odd name to see alone. In my head he is always paired with Syllogism. The two of them are an incredible team and, I have heard from inside sources, read every game on TL. They discuss their reads with each other of those unfolding games and have a great insight into each other and mafia as a whole. He and Syllo suffer from a weak scum play which comes as a correlation to their strong town play: their styles are so exquisitely townie as to offer no mode of duplication. Learn friendship from Sand and Sy, somewhere out there is someone you can obsessively talk to about mafia and who you can bounce reads/ideas off of. Find them and do it. You can only get better. 6. VisceraEyes -Just as marv was my perennial tutor so too was VE to marv. Now the pupil has exceeded the power of the master but VE is still a formidable player. VE has a strong town game as well as a strong scum game, the latter benefitted by his reputation for crazy-ness as town. Most players would find it impossible to role-claim as a role which did not exist and avoid the lynch in that manner but I have witnessed it from VE. VE is a wonderful guy and he and I have played many opposing games together, in fact I don't believe we've ever rolled the same alignment which has lead to a long string of hilarious encounters. Ve and I have a good deal of respect for each other and easily throw around insults which probably go too far sometimes. VE is the master of don't-give-a-fuck gaming, learn the ability to let things go from him. Sometimes the flop doesn't go your way so take it in stride. 7. Kitaman27 -An all around excellent player who I know very little about personally. I have played only one game with him which is worth counting and in it I, as SK, shot him n0. I know him to be competent as both scum and town with the ability to lead. Kita does a good job not just of leading the lynch but of involving others in it; try to make sure everyone has an opinion and a passion when it comes to lynching you'll know more about them and you'll seem towier for trying to get that passion from them. 8. HolyFlare -By my estimation the weakest link in this game. I don't think his name fits with the other ten though as I've been mostly absent from recent TL games I may have missed something. I am deeply interested to see how HF plays this game as it could be a moment of great triumph where he proves me wrong and shows that he is more than worthy to hang with some of TL's best or he may crack under the pressure and be the member of this game who brings it down a notch. From HF learn presevearence. If he can make his voice heard in the tumult that will be this game he will be able to move mountains with his voice. 9. Hapahauli -Someone from my newbies. Considered one of the best new players of 2012 by me. He had an aggressive style as town which steam rolled the rest of town into following him. He has since toned down and become a pleasurably smart person who no longer jams his words down your throat or other available orifice. 10. Gonzaw -An old friend. He played in my first ever game of TL mafia which I joined as a newbie and found myself overwhelmed by. He is a verbose individual often using 100 words where 3 would suffice. Gonzaw is a fun guy who obsesses over everything: he is a programmer and will sometimes say things which I cannot translate from English into English. Gonzaw is a cool mo' fo' you should follow his example and post many words. People often can't be bothered to read long posts and so often are convinced by their length. You this to your advantage with weaker players. 11. WaveofShadow -WoS is aight. He is someone I coached when he was in newbies and he has come a long way since that time. His scum game is an unknown he only rolled scum once and his team which was composed entirely of newbie scum rolled town: it was a thing of beauty. His town game is good though like HF, Austin, Gonzaw and myself he has never been the town leader by himself. He has not yet showed the ability to lead either a town or a scum team by himself although I believe he has that ability and will eventually show it. WoS is always trying to get better and that is something which everyone, even the best should do, you aren't the best. Niether am I. So lets get better together through this game. | ||
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