On January 05 2014 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Sentinel has to be a spy.

This is the team proposed:
Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, raynpelikoneet.

In order for Sentinel to yay-vote the team the team has to be all town. But before Sentinel yay-votes the team there is a yay-vote from Coagulation and Hopeless.

This means Sentinel must think those people are town too, why would they yay-vote an all-town team otherwise?
If we combine this we have the following scenario:
Sentinel thinks Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, raynpelikoneet, Caogulation and Hopeless are town.
That can't possibly be true because that would be 6 players and unless Sentinel wants to call himself scum he can't possibly think all of those people are town.

So Sentinel is scum.

On January 06 2014 14:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless you are calling me, Koshi and CR the scumteam right?

On January 07 2014 03:54 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes

On January 07 2014 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's pretty funny because me and CR are the most pro-town players in this game and Sentinel is confirmed scum..

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 05:01 GMT

#863

And that's why Hopeless is scum.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 05:05 GMT

#864

Also Coagulation has to be town so the team that will pass for sure is Coagulation/raynpelikoneet/Koshi/Chairman Ray.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 05:14 GMT

#865

Like Chairman Ray and Coagulation are both confirmed town regardless of what you think about anyone else in the game.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 05:17 GMT

#866

Why Coag again? I get why you think so with CR, but I think I missed the part where Coag was confirmed town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 05:20 GMT

#867

Sentinel claimed scum. Hopeless is scum for what i said.
That leaves 1 mafia in the pool of me/you/Grack/Cora (whe were on the second mission that failed).

There is no room for Coagulation + Chairman Ray and in fact Koshi to be mafia.
They all all town, even regardless of what you think of me.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 05:28 GMT

#868

THIS ALSO MEANS NO TOWNIE SHOULD BE VOTING YAY TO THE MISSION, OTHERWISE WE LOSE!!!

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 05:54 GMT

#869

On January 03 2014 00:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Night 1

Team: Koshi, Hopeless1der, raynpelikoneet

Team 3
Current Leader: Koshi

Current Vote Count:
Corazon: Nay
Hopeless1der: Yay
Coagulation: Yay
Chairman Ray: Yay
Koshi: Yay
[UoN]Sentinel: Yay
VisceraEyes: Yay
Raynpelikoneet: Yay

Koshi, Hopeless1der, and Raynepelikoneet have been sent on a mission!

If you have night actions to send in PM both of us please, this goes for the whole game, questions etc.

On January 06 2014 03:52 FirmTofu wrote:
Day 2: Phase 2

Proposed Team: Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, raynpelikoneet

Team 1
Current Leader: Grackaroni

Final Vote Count:
VisceraEyes: Yay
Corazon: Yay
Koshi: Nay
Coagulation: Yay
Hopeless1der: Yay
[UoN] Sentinel: Yay
raynpelikoneet: Nay
Grackaroni: Nay
Chairman Ray: Nay

Grackaroni, Corazon, VisceraEyes, and raynpelikoneet have been sent on a mission after a close 5-4 vote!

What do you make of Grack Nay-voting his team here? I mean he's on it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 06:16 GMT

#870

It does not mean anything because regardless of what he votes does not matter as there are 5 yay's already.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 06:33 GMT

#871

Right, well I'm working from the angle of the failed mission D2 presently - I'm townreading Cora and if you're town it can only be Grack to me.

Corazon

United States3230 Posts

January 07 2014 06:39 GMT

#872

Hey Sentinel, I'm trying to figure out a team to go after Hopeless' team goes into failure.

Who would you be ok sending?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 06:42 GMT

#873

Regarding Hopeless, his team proposal contains both myself and Corazon who were both on the mission that failed on D2, and rayn who was in the mission with him on D1 that failed. On D3, scum only need 1 member to fail the mission AFAIK so this seems like a pretty risky proposal if he's town and trying to get a passing team...where's the townie paranoia? Why are his reads so strong suddenly, and why isn't he doing more now that he's got these super confident reads?

In the post you talked to him about asking if he thought you were scum with CR and Koshi, I was under the impression that he was thinking the team was Koshi/CR and Sentinel. And before this he said he had a Koshi/CR/Coag scumteam - while even earlier he implies that he has you at 100% town.

I think you might be right about Hopeless.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 06:44 GMT

#874

I am not on the team Hopeless proposed.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 06:46 GMT

#875

Hopeless is suggesting that i am scum because it gives him the most leeway in his team proposal as that would mean i sabotaged missions 1 and 2 and instead of calling 2 people scum he only has to call 1 person scum.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 06:48 GMT

#876

Oh yeah Coag is the last guy. Nevermind that bit then.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 07 2014 06:52 GMT

#877

I just don't see him calling you scum anywhere rayn, except for where you ask him. Isn't that strange?

Corazon

United States3230 Posts

January 07 2014 06:53 GMT

#878

Hopeless has been attacking people with blatant lies all game VE. You just figured this out?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 07 2014 06:56 GMT

#879

On January 07 2014 15:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just don't see him calling you scum anywhere rayn, except for where you ask him. Isn't that strange?

That's why i asked him about it. I don't mind him calling me scum because i would expect him to do so as it's the only thing he can do as he is scum. I asked about CR and Koshi from him because his answer gave away his alignment as Sentinel is confirmed scum - all of us 3 can't be scum.