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On January 06 2014 08:50 Corazon wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but two things are confusing to me:
Why did Grack make his team and then vote No on it? The timing of his vote looks really suspicious because it was after his vote would not matter. Perhaps he could be try to distance himself from a mission he knew was going to fail?
Why did Sentinel immediately blame Grack for the sabotage? It looks especially weird because he voted yes to the team. I don't understand.
Also, CR's post really makes me feel like he knew the mission was going to end in failure.
In my opinion, I need to pick two out of these three to join hopeless as my proposed scum team.
Of course I knew the mission was going to end in failure. I explained why in my post. In a 5-4 pass vote where three yay votes are from outside the mission, the mission is guaranteed to fail. Do you understand this logic?
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On January 06 2014 09:44 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 08:50 Corazon wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but two things are confusing to me:
Why did Grack make his team and then vote No on it? The timing of his vote looks really suspicious because it was after his vote would not matter. Perhaps he could be try to distance himself from a mission he knew was going to fail?
Why did Sentinel immediately blame Grack for the sabotage? It looks especially weird because he voted yes to the team. I don't understand.
Also, CR's post really makes me feel like he knew the mission was going to end in failure.
In my opinion, I need to pick two out of these three to join hopeless as my proposed scum team. Of course I knew the mission was going to end in failure. I explained why in my post. In a 5-4 pass vote where three yay votes are from outside the mission, the mission is guaranteed to fail. Do you understand this logic? Why didn't you spend your time trying to convince people it was bad instead of writing some long and hard to follow post? You're not being proactive at all this game.
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On January 06 2014 09:47 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 09:44 Chairman Ray wrote:On January 06 2014 08:50 Corazon wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but two things are confusing to me:
Why did Grack make his team and then vote No on it? The timing of his vote looks really suspicious because it was after his vote would not matter. Perhaps he could be try to distance himself from a mission he knew was going to fail?
Why did Sentinel immediately blame Grack for the sabotage? It looks especially weird because he voted yes to the team. I don't understand.
Also, CR's post really makes me feel like he knew the mission was going to end in failure.
In my opinion, I need to pick two out of these three to join hopeless as my proposed scum team. Of course I knew the mission was going to end in failure. I explained why in my post. In a 5-4 pass vote where three yay votes are from outside the mission, the mission is guaranteed to fail. Do you understand this logic? Why didn't you spend your time trying to convince people it was bad instead of writing some long and hard to follow post? You're not being proactive at all this game.
Did you read my post?
The hard evidence that pointed to the team being bad occurred when Hopeless voted yay. That was when the team was guaranteed to fail. Not before then. Sentinel voted yay 7 minutes after Hopeless voted yay, which was the 5th vote making the mission pass. If you are suggesting that I should have spent my time convincing people that the team was bad, that's what I was planning to do, but I only had a 7 minute window to do it, and unfortunately I was away during those 7 minutes.
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Ohyeah. Sentinel confirmed scum. Damn. Who isnt then. Maybe it s VE.
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On January 06 2014 07:50 VisceraEyes wrote:Rayn on two failed missions. Rayn doesn't get to go on missions anymore.  This is stupid thinking because i have been nay-voting the both missions i was in in the first place. How does that make ma scum? I can decide what other people vote and propose as teams?
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On January 06 2014 08:50 Corazon wrote: I'm not entirely sure, but two things are confusing to me:
Why did Grack make his team and then vote No on it? The timing of his vote looks really suspicious because it was after his vote would not matter. Perhaps he could be try to distance himself from a mission he knew was going to fail?
Why did Sentinel immediately blame Grack for the sabotage? It looks especially weird because he voted yes to the team. I don't understand.
Also, CR's post really makes me feel like he knew the mission was going to end in failure.
In my opinion, I need to pick two out of these three to join hopeless as my proposed scum team. 1) We all knew that the mission would fail at that point. 2) How does that distance me from my team? The vote literally did not matter.
On January 06 2014 08:56 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2014 08:52 Koshi wrote: Is there a reason why VE is town? Shouldn't he carry more weight? I haven't seen any scummy posts from VE. I just get a townie vibe from him. He looks like he is trying to solve the game and never has bouts of inactivity or lack of effort like a lot of other players here. VE has been chilling all game long lol.
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On January 06 2014 09:11 Koshi wrote: 0 cares. I am in 0 care mode.
Starting under this line.
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I'm gonna be really sad if this childish behavior manages to come from town.
CR's massive post makes a reasonable amount of sense, but rather than being a fully objective piece, he is managing to push agenda while leaving out or ignoring certain scenarios. In particular, no matter what happened after our votes, one of Coag and I are scum, and whats more, CR is now confirmed town because he voted yay when it no longer mattered
On January 06 2014 07:36 Chairman Ray wrote: **SNIP** We also have to confirm that I am town as well because I was the only other person from outside the mission to reject it. If this mission fails, there is no more room for information gathering, and we have to send all town for the mission, so I absolutely have to go on the mission.
Out of the people in the mission, I feel most comfortable with rayn since he's playing most consistently good town plays, so I want him on the next mission as well.
So my recommendations for the next mission: -Chairman Ray -Koshi -Rayn -???
@red: No. Hell the fuck no. For a guy who just laid out all the game theory behind every decision making process this is the biggest red flag in this game. CR is scum I guaran-fucking-tee it. Thats the scumteam. Moderate chance that Sentinel is scum, but I'm calling that the scumteam. In any case, I still have 5 other players to choose from that arent those 4.
I'm putting myself on the team, because we all know my preference as far as leader always goes on the mission. You're all going to downvote it, and then maybe Cora will put up a team worth watching.
For the love of god make CR post his essays of reads that he promised he had. I don't care if they are finished, I care that they exist
##Propose: Hopeless1der, Corazon, VisceraEyes, Coagulation
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Hopeless you are calling me, Koshi and CR the scumteam right?
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Hopeless have you ever been this active as a scum in a game on TL?
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On January 06 2014 17:23 Koshi wrote: Hopeless have you ever been this active as a scum in a game on TL? probably not.
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On January 06 2014 14:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless you are calling me, Koshi and CR the scumteam right?
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That's pretty funny because me and CR are the most pro-town players in this game and Sentinel is confirmed scum..
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Why are you and CR the most pro-town players in this game?
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Because we are the only people who are saying stuff that actually analyses things happening. Both of us figured out Sentinel has to be scum because of his vote on the last mission.
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I mean anyone who puts any fucking thought in the game would see that. I suggest the other townies take their heads out off their asses and start playing this game because right now this isn't going really well.
Hopeless and Sentinel are scum - that makes Koshi most likely town. In a couple of hours i am going to figure out who the last scum is.
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Unless it is like
rayn/Y/Z but I can't be bothered to find those. Also I cant.
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Somehow Koshi thinks that VE is town now. I really can't take anything he says seriously anymore.
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