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HF
You actually dont sound like you believe what you are writing.
But thanks anyways, there is nothing else worth discussing regarding that statement
Heres a new one:
On November 22 2013 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
failed f5, anyway I will not be lynching rayn today
You didnt have time to expound on this; yet you have a series of postings that avoid scum hunting that is relevant to the lynch - consistently responding to new posts within intervals of less than 5minutes.
So again, why did you not try to derail the lynch by expressing why Rayn was town akin to:
On November 22 2013 12:48 Holyflare wrote:
You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny.
The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all.
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HF if you thought the case was bad, why did you vote for Rayn? Why are you pointing fingers when you were just as much of the problem as Mocsta was when it comes to the Rayn lynch?
"Who's more foolish- the fool or the one who follows him?"
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Corazon, what do you think of what I wrote about Onegu, Aqua, Thrawn before?
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On November 22 2013 13:00 Holyflare wrote:
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Aqua, ignores everything rayn says, policy lynches him
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@Holyflare
From the moment he came into the thread and told us not to lynch Rean, what do you think Rayn said that was worth taking seriously? This is a serious question, by the way.
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On November 22 2013 13:42 Mocsta wrote:
Corazon, what do you think of what I wrote about Onegu, Aqua, Thrawn before?
I can see your position on Aqua. I'll have another look at him because tbh that 12-hour shitfight made it hard to pick Aqua's posts out from all of the shit.
TBH Thrawn looks like your second head or something Moc. All I see from him are town reads on you and +1 on everything that you write. I wish he would branch out and do some of his own reads or else I would like to look at him some more.
I agree with the stuff on Onegu (as I said before- you were just kind of agreeing with me).
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On November 22 2013 13:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
TBH Thrawn looks like your second head or something Moc. All I see from him are town reads on you and +1 on everything that you write. I wish he would branch out and do some of his own reads or else I would like to look at him some more.
Fair comment on being a "hydra"
ummm, Thrawn did that last cycle. It was the trigger for Rayns meltdown.
One of the key things he found was a read on LoneMeow/HolyFlare which ties in with how HolyFlare has come into this game.
On November 21 2013 18:26 thrawn2112 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 21:41 LoneMeow wrote:
I could agree about cDgCorazon being scum. His filter has a ton of filler-like stuff, practically the only player he seems to have anything to talk about is sciberbia and even that is kind of non-commital, he's more or less hinting that sciberbia is scummy but never actually making it a real case. The part about town reads not being useful was just plain weird.
On the other hand, sciberbia's massive tunnel so early in the game is pretty weird and I really don't think they're both scum.
"I agree about Cor being scum" or even "I kinda agree" is how town people talk. "I could agree" is how scum people talk. "Could agree" as in "if I were actually able to have an opinion but I can't because I'm scum." When they phrase things like this you are hearing their inner monologue trying to figure out what their reads would be if they didn't already know alignments. LM is also scum for townreading Aqua at a time when the average townie should have been at least a little suspicious of Aqua. My only problem writing LM off as scum is that he's barely posted. JampiDampi isn't posting either and I don't like how he was so quick to agree that my Aqua case was good and then he immediately stopped looking for mafia. I remember a post about looking for replacements so if this is him then I don't know how important that last point I made is and this might apply to LM if he's the one who's dropping out. Hopefully this won't be a problem after D1. Picking one out of those two to be scum.. I'll go with LM. I just filtered scib real quick and he's ok. My gut says Bereft is town but at some point I'd like to do some 1v1 questioning. Onegu remains an enigma but my gut has more and more been leaning towards town. I was rereading rayn (sorry moc haven't finished up to the stuff you mentioned) and I came across this exchange On November 21 2013 02:21 Mocsta wrote:
Are Rean and Aquanim bussing? On November 21 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't know and i don't care. They both look individually bad to me. I'll reconsider when i see flips. I am not looking into connections now. Everyone has made good posts and those people have made bad posts in my opinion. I do not think Aquanim's reasons for voting for Rean are strong, i don't even know if he thinks he is scum as this is what he says: Show nested quote +For the same reason, I voted Rean above for the purposes of running a second wagon and introducing a choice. I'd cheerfully vote Corazon as well, his failure to actually vote for sciberbia despite his constant accusations is pretty damning. Shouldn't he be voting for Cora instead? A question like what mocsta asked is exactly the kind of unimportant and tiresome thing that town rayn both would strongly care about and also be able to provide several filter pages of spam talking about. Town rayn would never pass up the chance to indulge a question such as Mocsta asked. Town rayn cares deeply about every minute aspect of every angle of every possible theory and he can't stand not having an opinion about such things. I need to reread Corazon, I previously thought he was pretty townie but Mocsta seems to disagree. I am loathe to do it because I don't want to reread those opening cor/scib arguments again and I also think that town Corazon has a very scummy way of talking, arguing, and just the general way he organizes and presents his thought process. I will do this later.
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On November 22 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 13:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
TBH Thrawn looks like your second head or something Moc. All I see from him are town reads on you and +1 on everything that you write. I wish he would branch out and do some of his own reads or else I would like to look at him some more.
Fair comment on being a "hydra" ummm, Thrawn did that last cycle. It was the trigger for Rayns meltdown. One of the key things he found was a read on LoneMeow/HolyFlare which ties in with how HolyFlare has come into this game. Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 18:26 thrawn2112 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 21:41 LoneMeow wrote:
I could agree about cDgCorazon being scum. His filter has a ton of filler-like stuff, practically the only player he seems to have anything to talk about is sciberbia and even that is kind of non-commital, he's more or less hinting that sciberbia is scummy but never actually making it a real case. The part about town reads not being useful was just plain weird.
On the other hand, sciberbia's massive tunnel so early in the game is pretty weird and I really don't think they're both scum.
"I agree about Cor being scum" or even "I kinda agree" is how town people talk. "I could agree" is how scum people talk. "Could agree" as in "if I were actually able to have an opinion but I can't because I'm scum." When they phrase things like this you are hearing their inner monologue trying to figure out what their reads would be if they didn't already know alignments. LM is also scum for townreading Aqua at a time when the average townie should have been at least a little suspicious of Aqua. My only problem writing LM off as scum is that he's barely posted. JampiDampi isn't posting either and I don't like how he was so quick to agree that my Aqua case was good and then he immediately stopped looking for mafia. I remember a post about looking for replacements so if this is him then I don't know how important that last point I made is and this might apply to LM if he's the one who's dropping out. Hopefully this won't be a problem after D1. Picking one out of those two to be scum.. I'll go with LM. I just filtered scib real quick and he's ok. My gut says Bereft is town but at some point I'd like to do some 1v1 questioning. Onegu remains an enigma but my gut has more and more been leaning towards town. I was rereading rayn (sorry moc haven't finished up to the stuff you mentioned) and I came across this exchange On November 21 2013 02:21 Mocsta wrote:
Are Rean and Aquanim bussing? On November 21 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't know and i don't care. They both look individually bad to me. I'll reconsider when i see flips. I am not looking into connections now. Everyone has made good posts and those people have made bad posts in my opinion. I do not think Aquanim's reasons for voting for Rean are strong, i don't even know if he thinks he is scum as this is what he says: Show nested quote +For the same reason, I voted Rean above for the purposes of running a second wagon and introducing a choice. I'd cheerfully vote Corazon as well, his failure to actually vote for sciberbia despite his constant accusations is pretty damning. Shouldn't he be voting for Cora instead? A question like what mocsta asked is exactly the kind of unimportant and tiresome thing that town rayn both would strongly care about and also be able to provide several filter pages of spam talking about. Town rayn would never pass up the chance to indulge a question such as Mocsta asked. Town rayn cares deeply about every minute aspect of every angle of every possible theory and he can't stand not having an opinion about such things. I need to reread Corazon, I previously thought he was pretty townie but Mocsta seems to disagree. I am loathe to do it because I don't want to reread those opening cor/scib arguments again and I also think that town Corazon has a very scummy way of talking, arguing, and just the general way he organizes and presents his thought process. I will do this later.
Does it not concern you that he could be buddying you too hard? You've done that tactic to me before (was it Bluelightz? or 37?) and it bit me in the ass.
I would like thrawn to have a lot more thread presence going forward. I hope you can agree with that Moc.
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On November 22 2013 14:02 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 13:49 cDgCorazon wrote:
TBH Thrawn looks like your second head or something Moc. All I see from him are town reads on you and +1 on everything that you write. I wish he would branch out and do some of his own reads or else I would like to look at him some more.
Fair comment on being a "hydra" ummm, Thrawn did that last cycle. It was the trigger for Rayns meltdown. One of the key things he found was a read on LoneMeow/HolyFlare which ties in with how HolyFlare has come into this game. On November 21 2013 18:26 thrawn2112 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 20 2013 21:41 LoneMeow wrote:
I could agree about cDgCorazon being scum. His filter has a ton of filler-like stuff, practically the only player he seems to have anything to talk about is sciberbia and even that is kind of non-commital, he's more or less hinting that sciberbia is scummy but never actually making it a real case. The part about town reads not being useful was just plain weird.
On the other hand, sciberbia's massive tunnel so early in the game is pretty weird and I really don't think they're both scum.
"I agree about Cor being scum" or even "I kinda agree" is how town people talk. "I could agree" is how scum people talk. "Could agree" as in "if I were actually able to have an opinion but I can't because I'm scum." When they phrase things like this you are hearing their inner monologue trying to figure out what their reads would be if they didn't already know alignments. LM is also scum for townreading Aqua at a time when the average townie should have been at least a little suspicious of Aqua. My only problem writing LM off as scum is that he's barely posted. JampiDampi isn't posting either and I don't like how he was so quick to agree that my Aqua case was good and then he immediately stopped looking for mafia. I remember a post about looking for replacements so if this is him then I don't know how important that last point I made is and this might apply to LM if he's the one who's dropping out. Hopefully this won't be a problem after D1. Picking one out of those two to be scum.. I'll go with LM. I just filtered scib real quick and he's ok. My gut says Bereft is town but at some point I'd like to do some 1v1 questioning. Onegu remains an enigma but my gut has more and more been leaning towards town. I was rereading rayn (sorry moc haven't finished up to the stuff you mentioned) and I came across this exchange On November 21 2013 02:21 Mocsta wrote:
Are Rean and Aquanim bussing? On November 21 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't know and i don't care. They both look individually bad to me. I'll reconsider when i see flips. I am not looking into connections now. Everyone has made good posts and those people have made bad posts in my opinion. I do not think Aquanim's reasons for voting for Rean are strong, i don't even know if he thinks he is scum as this is what he says: Show nested quote +For the same reason, I voted Rean above for the purposes of running a second wagon and introducing a choice. I'd cheerfully vote Corazon as well, his failure to actually vote for sciberbia despite his constant accusations is pretty damning. Shouldn't he be voting for Cora instead? A question like what mocsta asked is exactly the kind of unimportant and tiresome thing that town rayn both would strongly care about and also be able to provide several filter pages of spam talking about. Town rayn would never pass up the chance to indulge a question such as Mocsta asked. Town rayn cares deeply about every minute aspect of every angle of every possible theory and he can't stand not having an opinion about such things. I need to reread Corazon, I previously thought he was pretty townie but Mocsta seems to disagree. I am loathe to do it because I don't want to reread those opening cor/scib arguments again and I also think that town Corazon has a very scummy way of talking, arguing, and just the general way he organizes and presents his thought process. I will do this later. Does it not concern you that he could be buddying you too hard? You've done that tactic to me before (was it Bluelightz? or 37?) and it bit me in the ass. I would like thrawn to have a lot more thread presence going forward. I hope you can agree with that Moc.
I'm inclined to think that after pushing my wagon hard at the start of the day and being a pretty strong townread for most people it's entirely understandable that a town Thrawn would decide to step back a little. If one apes the spotlight for the entire day then that doesn't give you as much opportunity to learn about other people.
I agree that if he does not maintain a high thread presence going forward I will be reassessing Thrawn.
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I do not disagree at all that Thrawn needs more presence.
I don't think he has been buddying me though - in the sense, if anything I buddied him.
Yes I have buddied you before correct. But I was supporting your scum reads, and using your arguments to push them.
I don't think Thrawn is doing that to me. I think it has been coincidence we were thiking the same things at the same time, and posting live -- its what lead to me thiking he was town + towards end of cycle we were starting to disagree on stuff.
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On November 22 2013 14:11 Mocsta wrote:
I do not disagree at all that Thrawn needs more presence.
I don't think he has been buddying me though - in the sense, if anything I buddied him.
Yes I have buddied you before correct. But I was supporting your scum reads, and using your arguments to push them.
I don't think Thrawn is doing that to me. I think it has been coincidence we were thiking the same things at the same time, and posting live -- its what lead to me thiking he was town + towards end of cycle we were starting to disagree on stuff.
in 37 you were scum and I was town Moc
Also, why is your filter 11 pages? Don't you think that it is a bit ridiculous for 48 hours?
11*20 is 220/48 is around 5. You have a post every 12 minutes. Tbh I think things would be better if you tried to tone it down.
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I'm feeling really good about Corazon.
I think a scum Corazon woudl love to poke fingers (a la HolyFlare).
So my reads
The Good: {Thrawn, JarJar, Aqua, Corazon, Bereft, *Sciberbia}
The Bad: {jampidampi}
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The Ugly: {#Rean/HolyFlare/Onegu}
* Scibs is my weakest read in this group but I think his issue has been lack of time to deliver the content he wants to.
# Interesting tidbit: Rean came into the thread so say: don't use old meta -- maybe he thought i was trying to set a trap or something
INTERESTING BECAUSE
the last time someone said that to me was Onegu in Hogwarts. He said, dont use meta from my last game to defend me (he was scum)
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On November 22 2013 14:13 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 14:11 Mocsta wrote:
I do not disagree at all that Thrawn needs more presence.
I don't think he has been buddying me though - in the sense, if anything I buddied him.
Yes I have buddied you before correct. But I was supporting your scum reads, and using your arguments to push them.
I don't think Thrawn is doing that to me. I think it has been coincidence we were thiking the same things at the same time, and posting live -- its what lead to me thiking he was town + towards end of cycle we were starting to disagree on stuff.
(1) in 37 you were scum and I was town Moc (2) Also, why is your filter 11 pages? Don't you think that it is a bit ridiculous for 48 hours? (3) 11*20 is 220/48 is around 5. You have a post every 12 minutes. Tbh I think things would be better if you tried to tone it down.
(1) I know?? I was explaning the difference between buddying and having aligned thinking.
(2) Most of it I assume is trying to consolidate votes for a lynch. Yes, it took that much effort.
(3) Agreed; my reads are out there so if I'm NK'd I think those 3 (rean/HF/Onegu) are very good lynches to obtain a majority on.
/ciao
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+ Show Spoiler [rant] +Mocsta, go read that post I made where I fully explained my position on my comment about your Onegu case. I made some noise about wanting this game to be based on logic, not emotion, and what I meant by that is further explained in the post I just told you to go read. The things that you think are your thoughts come from somewhere and there is a reason for why you have them. Being able to understand if these reasons are valid is key to recognizing when you're taking an incorrect position.
I know this has nothing to do with the game but this is important. The method I described above is what kept leading me to thinking rayn was town, so what I'm saying does have some merit.
Incorrect thought = Rayn is scum
"subconscious" (for lack of a better word) reasons your brain comes up with to keep believing rayn is mafia:
"I am smart and I am so sure that he is mafia"
"If rayn is scum, I don't have to put any more effort into figuring this lynch out"
"Admitting to the thread or myself that I am unsure about the read I was previously so sure about is hard on my ego"
None of these things will you ever actually say to yourself in your inner-monologue but they are still there in the background, forcing you to rationalize and come up with excuses for not considering a different solution to a problem. It is very hard to admit to yourself that your justifications for your opinions can be so shallow.
When these reasons are laid bare it is obvious how illogical and egocentric they are. All I am trying to say is that your brain does not always fight on the side of logic so you need to make efforts to understand where your thoughts come from. If you are sure that somebody is X alignment, and you see something that briefly makes you think otherwise, but you quickly dismiss the thought thinking "nah, I was probably right the first time" this is likely to be a time when you are using faulty logic (your "thoughts", or the "voice" you hear explaining your opinion to you when you think) to rationalize what your ego wants.. and what your ego wants is to take the easy way out of problems, and to feel like it is important and infallbile.
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+ Show Spoiler [Bereft/Rayn] ++ Show Spoiler [rayn posts] +On November 21 2013 14:13 Bereft wrote:
if you're town, i don't know what you're trying to accomplish by jumping on me for such a minor point i proceeded to IMMEDIATELY explain and then disappearing from the thread. what are you hoping to accomplish? you do realize we are 22 hours away from the deadline in a game of majority lynch?? On November 22 2013 00:00 Bereft wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
I think its completely irrational for a townie to bust into the thread the way rayn is doing now flinging shit like an angry bull. there is no reason for him to be behaving this way as town. On November 22 2013 00:15 Bereft wrote:
basically I agree 100% with what thrawn said. rayns acting in a manner that makes it quite unlikely he's town, but in the off chance that he is, his attitude is horrible and I'd much rather have Rean around than him. On November 22 2013 02:16 Bereft wrote: why do you think its more beneficial to keep a toxic player around who gives the fake intention of martyring (without actually intending to be a martyr) vs an analytical level headed player who's at least giving the impression of being as transparent as possible? On November 22 2013 10:59 Bereft wrote:scib, here's the thing. i am not unwilling to compromise. it's not like i have no doubt in my mind. but rayn is not just my strongest read -- i don't see any value in keeping him around. as i stated when i voted for him, i think he's incredibly antitown with a terribly off-putting attitude. of course that attitude is gone now that he's under fire, but i think the way he busted into this thread on his high horse around page 33 is unacceptable. Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 00:15 Bereft wrote:
basically I agree 100% with what thrawn said. rayns acting in a manner that makes it quite unlikely he's town, but in the off chance that he is, his attitude is horrible and I'd much rather have Rean around than him. if you can give me a strong case on why rayn is town and worth keeping around and why onegu/rean/cora are a better lynch, i will consider it. These posts feature Bereft continuously justifying the Rayn lynch by saying "I can see town doing this" and by using policy lynch arguments. + Show Spoiler [talking to rayn] +On November 22 2013 02:23 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:its my job to get a majority mislynch right now So you are claiming scum? because trying to get a lynch on my scum read vs a no lynch day 1 is anti town. cmon rayn, you're making me literally cringe here. in any case let's not shit up the thread. obviously I'm not going to convince you to vote yourself and you aren't going to convince me to vote myself. This post shows Bereft not being interested in having a discussion with the person Bereft wants to lynch. + Show Spoiler [what if?] +On November 22 2013 10:18 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 10:04 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 22 2013 10:01 Bereft wrote:
@scib, i will agree that my stance on onegu has changed since yesterday and he's been completely useless. but i don't think he's a better lynch than rayn at the moment. i can't find any aspect of rayn's posting rational as a townie, and i've tried. i don't care if shit flinging is his usual style of playing. the bottom line is that there is no townie SENSE or LOGIC behind any of his shit flinging in this case. it does not make any sense for him to behave like this. But do you think he's playing scummily? It is very easy to lynch someone saying that you can't see their posts as coming from town. And I disagree because I actually can see town rayn doing this even if I'm not convinced it's the case.What do you think about this? On November 22 2013 09:06 thrawn2112 wrote:
For now, ##unvote because i'm scared that rayn is town because his comment about his play in desert somewhat convinced me that what he's doing could be town rayn play.. for all who don't know, near the end of the D1 lynch rayn fakeclaimed something to try and save a guy from getting lynched, a guy rayn had a town read on.... and that wasn't the only time that game he fakeclaimed to try and force his will upon the thread.
yes, i think he's playing scummy. his cases are built on air and yet he's 100% certain myself and quite a few others are scum -- UNLESS of course it suits him to be nice to them. how can he be 100% certain mocsta, jjd, and I are scum? i wouldn't even place my confidence interval on whether i think HE is scum that high, and i feel strongly about this lynch. In this post, I ask Bereft "what if rayn is town" and I provide a meta example that can show how town rayn can be playing this way, which is what Bereft claims to be looking for but can't find. Bereft calls rayn scum and does not address my questions or stop to think about the possibility of a town rayn. + Show Spoiler [img] +On November 22 2013 11:42 Bereft wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nsg2TE5.png) This image is a very good representation of Bereft's justification for voting for rayn.
Bereft, can you explain your D1 vote? It looks like you're hiding behind policy lynch rhetoric and that you don't care to discuss the possibilty that rayn is town.
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the first line of text I wrote in the spoiler should say "I can't see town doing this" instead of "can"
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On November 21 2013 14:35 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 14:28 Onegu wrote:On November 21 2013 05:33 cDgCorazon wrote:
Onegu, I know you are better at this game then your case on me. You fail to look at anything I have said about those posts and the information/logic you are using to vote for me is nothing original. I have not seen anything original in that case which leaves me worried about whether you are scum or not.
The whole game you've done nothing productive to the town. That case was so bad it's anti-productive. Try harder. I never made a case on you its a case on mocsta where the quote tags got messed up somehow... if it's not a case on cora, what's your case for voting cora?
Here is the post you are missing mocsta, here is where he thinks its a case on cora. I have been sick and am now really far behind in everything I am not even up to the lynch yet but when you say I am misrepresenting bereft and you look for the posts I was talking about you missed this one, also if you have more questions on my notes post about what posts I am talking about I am happy to pull them up for you. Also mocsta saying he doesnt believe I am not around for deadline is utter BS my timezone is close to his, except I have a wife and kids so he should know its not easy for me to make this deadline so calling me out for it is scummy.
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On November 21 2013 13:32 Bereft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2013 13:11 cDgCorazon wrote:
Bereft, I would like to know why you don't think we should lynch Onegu. I was really puzzled when you threw that read out (as were others) and I just want to know why you see Onegu in a good light. When you said you thought he was town I got this feeling that we weren't reading the same game. i like that he came into the thread with a bunch of off the cuff reads -- to me this reads as careless, unstructured, bold. Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 20:28 Onegu wrote:On November 20 2013 12:50 Rean wrote:On November 20 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote:
I took a shower. Sorry for not wanting to smell bad.
Moc, I'm quite concerned that you have already used up >25% of your "self-allotted posts". If you're going to start spamming, it's going to be a problem.
Now to my goals/early game statements:
1. I'm not gonna make any meta crap posts. TBH I don't remember anyone's meta and it's ridiculously stupid logic. I'm not going to stand for it and I don't think you guys should either.
2. I'm voting for the scummiest person. My last game was Titanic and it came down to 3-4 days of "X is scum, Y/Z/Q is scum as well". That led the town way off of the path and allowed my scum team the easiest scum win in a very long time. I don't care if they're not on the two lynch trains that are going to form. It's not instant majority so as long as I feel like I'm voting for the scummiest person in my opinion, I'm going to be happy with my vote.
3. I'm going to do my best to not be just an onlooker. I'm gonna try and facilitate discussion and ask a lot of questions instead of just answering questions and throw my ideas out there and just create more chaos.
On that note, sciberia needs to stop analyzing the first page so hard and just discuss. We're not going to find scum on the first page. You guys just need to talk instead of being at each other's throats 30 minutes into the game.
Couldn't agree more. Also, don't shit up the thread with useless spam like the LXIII game please. I tried keeping up but the amount of shit posts just trolling/making useless jokes/comments is unbearable and makes it impossible to tell low-laying scum from trolling townies. If anyone goes around posting stupid oneliners without saying anything meaningful they have my vote >.> Reans first post into the thread and it just fakes activity. He doesnt say what he agrees with and there are multiple things to agree with, does he agree with all or only some he, never actually says what points he agrees with. This is a very scummy first post. Also if mocsta didnt retract his post limit on himself I was going to call him scum, but he did and I am ok with it for now. I do want to point out he only takes it after cora points out his spam. But unlike cora I thought it was scummy, because it was a easy way to avoid conversation. The was one more post from mocsta I didnt like will find it in moment it was post 4or 5 where he gives 3 scum reads with no reason and then says half the thread hasnt posted so his reads can change. Coras case on Sciberia is terribad and scummy. Anyway rean is really scumm though. Sorry Im at the mall but when I am home I will catchup on both of my games and be up late playing. Ill be checking in periodicly while Im at the mall though. if he's scum, this is not at all a "safe" post to bust into the thread with. i think it's on point that he calls mocsta's thread presence out. i really want to believe moc is town, but i keep seeing small red flags embedded in his posts. he's the first person to really do this, and if scum, i think this is also pretty bold because mocsta's obviously an aggressive player. i was accused of being scum and attempting to disrupt a town circle for telling mocsta to explain himself. he gives me a very very slight town lean (exact phrasing "starting to look better") at a time when it's totally unnecessary to do so, considering everyone else would most likely have slotted me into the "lurker, null, need to hear more from" category if prodded. admittedly his last post is a jumbled mess and i have no idea what he's saying with this: Show nested quote +Im going to go over your reads here and just ask you how you came to these because alot were null to me or the exact opposite of what you wrote so lets go.
1 hes trying to be clever there is nothing to be overdone and there is no way a troll post like this can be scummy, fuck the police was already taken...
2 why cant sciberia find the repeat and calling of you obv town scummy, but your troll post null as it was the first post in the thread? You getting that it is scum-scum interaction I dont understand how you get that read from this post.
3 how is this agressive, you put a pregame post restriction, then start the game numbering your posts, seems like you are going to keep your post restriction up. Calling you out for it isnt agressive its correct when all your first few posts are trolling.
4 this is fine
5 he made a troll response how is that overcompensated? Doesnt make sense and him not thinking the same as you is a scum read?
6 the first part of this is correct that post was null, the second part you can only get so much info from the first page and alot of page one was trolling. Telling someone to keep looking isnt scummy, its not damage control.
7 How is this a scumslip, 2 different people thought you were masons, I know you kinda think they are both scum at this point, but when you drop lines about being connected with thrawn people might think you are masoned, no way this is a scumslip.
8 again not a scumslip
9 reans first post is uber scummy. It fakes agreeing with coras null post, and then says nothing and there is no way he thinks he is saying something meaningful.
10 iirc you had already said you werent masons so he says the only other option how is that townie?
12 meh ok
12b also fine
13 you do the samething later on when you talking about haveing such a good town atmospher so how can you give him scum points for this?
14 syas nothing why you post this, I dont know his meta so this poat means nothing...
15 still dont know how you are seeing scum scum intreactions here. Maybe you are just tunneled at this point. Also at this point you say you like aqua calling out rean.
16 again why post a completely null post?
17 This is fine, but you are like he agrees with me that mean hes awesome town
18 this has been talked about already, why are you so tunneled on scum-scum here doesnt make since.
19 the post is good that means the timeing is fine also, even if I am argueing with someone and I see something that needs questioned I will question it reguardless of what else is going on
20 admit to being tunneled
21 this is fine
22 tunneled
23 meh no point in continueing on with cora, him moveing on is fine and how he did it was fine.
24 really wishywashy post but also slightly dinstanceing himself from rean while giveing him a town read at the same time. I think this is really scummy from you mocsta. Your thoughts on rean is just really odd. but i do think it's a very strong point in his favor that his posts are coming off as being written with a lack of care as to how they'd be perceived.
Yet on page one of his filter he quotes my case here, so he isnt reading me clearly.
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On November 22 2013 10:47 Mocsta wrote:I thought you had bigger balls. I don't want to play with Rayn anymore full stop. We had a good town environment until page 25ish and I was relaly enjoying this game. He has single handedly shit the thread and this game has completely denigrated into somethign I have no interest playing anymore. My vote is staying on Rayn. /post-game If rayn is town this game, you will be added to my personal ban list. Im pretty fucking disgusted right now.
Lol this comeing from the guy who called me dipshit. Get over it.
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On November 22 2013 11:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 22 2013 10:56 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 10:54 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 22 2013 10:53 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 10:51 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 22 2013 10:49 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 10:45 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 22 2013 10:43 Mocsta wrote:On November 22 2013 10:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
mocsta wtf are you going on about... say something helpful This is an unusal response. Talk to me more. yes it was i'm sorry I dont need an apology. I would like to know why you thought it wasnt useful? I was too lazy to read a huge post about a candidate that I hadn't really thought about until the moment I saw your post, and that's why what I said was a dumb thing to post. Now we need to stop circle jerking and figure out who besides rayn we're going to lynch. No, you dont get to brush this off. Why did you vote Onegu afterwards. mocsta unless you think I'm scum please stfu I am starting to give it weight So answer the god-damn question. I will expand on my previous post. I was too lazy to read a huge post about a candidate that I hadn't really thought about until the moment I saw your post, and my knee jerk reaction was to call your post useless. That is my brain's way of tricking me into thinking that I didn't actually need to read your post, my brain is a lazy fuck sometimes and I need to be more mindful of its sinister machinations. Then I realized everything in the above paragraph and decided to read your post. I agreed with it and was desperately looking for a candidate so I voted Onegu. Then I went and read his filter and decided I can't find enough scumminess in it that's worth lynching him over. Thank you. I dont have a problem you didnt want to read the post - that is normal. I dont agree with your reasoning; however,i dont know you very well so it i wont argue it either. (in my opinion) Call outs like what you did only occur when you have a strong read on someone and then the "where da fuq did that post come from" identifies an opposite alignment on that person.
If you could not find enough scumminess in onegu filter; do you think he cares about seeing a lynch through?
Jeez it was 230am and when I voted mocsta look at the wagons, rayn 7 votes who Im not going to vote for a town read when he had majority already, and every one else had either no votes or one vote. So stop trying to say this.
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K, not gonna apologize about the flip. I'm sure I'll have plenty say to Rayn post-game. Escpecially if Rean really is scum (which I still think).
Gonna reread Onegu but I haven't thought he was scum @ all this game so I doubt that's gonna change. Not crazy about Holyflare so gonna look close @ him.
Also gonna look into Rayns other scumreads though I don't know how much stock I can put into them because of how wrong he was about me. But I don't feel like he could really go 0 for 3 in his reads so if I had to choose 1 scum between Moc and Bereft, right now I'm gonna say it's Moc. But this is before my reread.
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