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Holyflare
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:32 Holyflare wrote: Onegu is someone who prides himself in reading rayn, he even started to call him town at his last post before he afk'd. If he knew rayn was displaying his towny attributes why did he not try and convince any of you that he wasn't scum? Well, his last post was at like 3am.. i dunno So.. am I still scum to you? | ||
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Holyflare
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On November 22 2013 12:41 Mocsta wrote: Well, his last post was at like 3am.. i dunno So.. am I still scum to you? From what I've read so far, I mean, you of all people have played with rayn and that vote just now was pure policy. You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny. You actively went against a win con because you did not want to play with him again. THAT is scummy. There was Aqua who blatantly disregarded anything rayn said at all. The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all. | ||
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Corazon
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On November 22 2013 12:27 Aquanim wrote: That's a fair point. Do you think the same applies to jampidampi and Rean, who both left their votes on me without pushing my lynch at all seriously? Personally I doubt they're all scum but I think there's at least one and possibly two scum in {Jampidampi, Rean, Onegu}. And that's what should be the focal point of N1. | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 11:48 sciberbia wrote: I'll consolidate to rayn if necessary. But you guys really need to put your votes down. This is the problem with not having a counterwagon. Now we are just lynching rayn because we have no choice, not because that many people even think he's a good lynch. The original counter-wagons were Rean / Aqua As a musing The day had 2 halves Half 1: Before Rayn chucked martyred Half 2: After Rayn martyred My reads from Half 1 were: On November 21 2013 14:49 Mocsta wrote: Next, this is my group of strong town reads from p5 -> p20 {Thrawn, JarJarDrinks, Aquanim, Rayn} This is my group of tentative town reads from p5->p20 (i.e. people i dont have interest to lynch this cycle) {Corazon, Bereft, Onegu, LoneMeow} Thus, this is my pile of shit left over: for todays lynch {Rean, Sciberbia, jampidampi} and then On November 21 2013 17:25 Mocsta wrote: Read the whole game. Updated reads list: The Good: {Thrawn, JarJarDrinks, Aquanim, Bereft} The Bad: {Onegu, LoneMeow, Rayn, Sciberbia} The Ugly: {Rean, jampidampi, Corazon} The common denominators are Rean + Jampidampi. Jampidampi is terrible as he refused to commit to anything accusations on rayn last night (from recollection) Rean is terrible for that post he made. It reads as if he knew he was not getting lynched so decided to keep quiet. I dont like holyflare, but hes low priority for me - over the next cyles Im sure if he is town he can start proving it. | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:48 Holyflare wrote: From what I've read so far, I mean, you of all people have played with rayn and that vote just now was pure policy. You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny. You actively went against a win con because you did not want to play with him again. THAT is scummy. There was Aqua who blatantly disregarded anything rayn said at all. The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all. WTF is this. I asked if i am scum to you. And you respond with: This is something you did "that is scummy". So i ask again.. am i scum to you? Lastly, I never shied away from stating it was a policy lynch. I find it funny how you come here and stand on your high horse. Why didnt you give your tells for a town rayn 2 hrs ago when it was actually relevant and useful? | ||
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Holyflare
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:48 cDgCorazon wrote: And that's what should be the focal point of N1. Interesting, ties in precisely with my post on reads from 1st half of day1. Btw, i agere you were very transparent. I also think the action to no-lynch vs vote someone else was pretty townie. Because in my mind it attempts to force a discussion on all remaining people vs just the new vote recipient. | ||
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Holyflare
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:53 Holyflare wrote: Why are you asking me if you are scum if quite clearly I gave your name in a list of people I want to lynch then?? Because I re-evaluate my reads after flips. | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote: WTF is this. I asked if i am scum to you. And you respond with: This is something you did "that is scummy". So i ask again.. am i scum to you? Lastly, I never shied away from stating it was a policy lynch. I find it funny how you come here and stand on your high horse. Why didnt you give your tells for a town rayn 2 hrs ago when it was actually relevant and useful? This was a question to you Holyflare | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 12:52 Mocsta wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 22 2013 12:48 Holyflare wrote: From what I've read so far, I mean, you of all people have played with rayn and that vote just now was pure policy. You know I have also played with rayn a lot and so when I call him town based on what I've read you shouldn't throw it away and still lynch him. Yes he may have been obnoxious and shit flinging but that is because he was quite clearly annoyed at people. He was emotionally invested. It is hard to fake it the way he did and whether he was annoying or not a towny is a towny. You actively went against a win con because you did not want to play with him again. THAT is scummy. There was Aqua who blatantly disregarded anything rayn said at all. The crux of it comes down to this: He had reads on people that disagreed with thread sentiment. He thought he was correct in those reads and shit things up, so what part of that would have been scummy to you? He went balls to the wall defending someone other people think is scum. Do you think he'd associate that strongly with someone if he was scum? That is not how rayn plays at all. WTF is this. I asked if i am scum to you. And you respond with: This is something you did "that is scummy". So i ask again.. am i scum to you? Lastly, I never shied away from stating it was a policy lynch. I find it funny how you come here and stand on your high horse. Why didnt you give your tells for a town rayn 2 hrs ago when it was actually relevant and useful? This was a question to you Holyflare | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Onegu posts that rayn is town, onegu knows rayn's meta (thrawn and mocsta know this) Mocsta sees onegu is afk, doesn't try and confirm rayn's meta to people, policy lynches him Thrawn, calls rayn obviously towny, lynches him Aqua, ignores everything rayn says, policy lynches him 1 of you is scum | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 13:00 Holyflare wrote: Let me break this down for everyone else: Onegu posts that rayn is town, onegu knows rayn's meta (thrawn and mocsta know this) Mocsta sees onegu is afk, doesn't try and confirm rayn's meta to people, policy lynches him Thrawn, calls rayn obviously towny, lynches him Aqua, ignores everything rayn says, policy lynches him 1 of you is scum Why only 1? What does me seeing Onegu be AFK have to do with anything? Break this down further. | ||
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Holyflare
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Onegu calls a person he can read well based off of meta town. You do not try and read into this any further or use it to stop a rayn lynch and then you just ask me why I didn't do the same thing? I clearly did not have as much time as you did to elaborate. | ||
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Mocsta
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I think Thrawn is town. I did very much 24hrs ago; and his compulsion to keep swapping votes is towny to me. It could put him heavily under suspicion when rayn flipped town, and frankly, was unnecessary as scum play. I thought Aqua was town from 24hrs ago as well. Holy states that aqua is ignoring everything, but that is not my opinion. If anything, Aqua can't stop bantering back with Rayn. Again, this is over done knowing it is a town flip. Aqua could have easily nested on his read - but he did not. I have a town lean on him, but wiill still be reading his cases carefully (and with Rayn gone I expect more output like cases from him) Me: I was transparent about policy. You want to call that mafia, whatever. I knwo this game is 100% different to my recent scum game. Nothing more needs to be said + I dont knwo why you keep insinuating I am intimate with Rayns meta. I have expectations of his play, but I am not a connoiseur of him at all. Onegu: Looks pretty bad I agree regardless of AFK. Anyway mocsta is my biggest scumread now. Also Rayn is a terrible lynch today please change, ill try to be up for deadline but no promises. This in particular. Nothing to do with the AFK its got to do with how he went about the situation.He gives rayn a town read, and forces town to consider Rayns thread opposition (me) Compare this to Corazon who is trying to avoid continuing this ego battle - Onegu instead fans the flames. Onegu *is* scum | ||
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Mocsta
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On November 22 2013 13:07 Holyflare wrote: at least 1* Onegu calls a person he can read well based off of meta town. You do not try and read into this any further or use it to stop a rayn lynch and then you just ask me why I didn't do the same thing? I clearly did not have as much time as you did to elaborate. Another high-horse rider. You were more than happy to chime in your tidbits. Anyways, all you are doing is providing summaries of posts i can read. You are not attributing scum motive to anything you are saying. | ||
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Holyflare
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I don't know what else you want???? | ||
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