EPTOn November 21 2013 04:07 Mocsta wrote:
How would you feel if I thought you were the next towniest guy after thrawn?
Uh, OK I guess. What does this question accomplish?How would you feel if I thought you were the next towniest guy after thrawn?
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On November 21 2013 05:51 cDgCorazon wrote: But sheeping on arguments made 15 hours ago? That's not scummy? Well, I don't think you've given a satisfactory answer to the case against you. I've been waiting for u to get back so I can hopefully hear an answer to this: On November 21 2013 02:13 JarJarDrinks wrote: But that was the post you were analysing when making your "Rock the Boat" read. So if that one page of joke posting didn't give you a scum read, then what did? | ||
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On November 21 2013 05:56 cDgCorazon wrote: I have read your filter.JJD. I'm done with that. If you fail to read my filter then I don't feel obliged to answer the same questions over and over again. No need to answer it again it you did, just please link or quote a post where you explain the reason you had a scumread on sciberia @ that point in the game that isn't because of his first post. | ||
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On November 21 2013 06:04 cDgCorazon wrote: I've explained my thinking behind those posts already. So no. Yes you explained your thinking behind those posts. ANd that thinking directly contradicts what you're saying in the post I quoted. Here's a post where you try to explain your thinking: On November 20 2013 13:43 cDgCorazon wrote: @Thrawn When I made that post, I was thinking along the lines of "I think sci's actions are looking pretty scummy." In my opinion, if he was trying to create a good town atmosphere in the start, he did a very poor job of doing so. That's why I was thinking (and still am) that sciberia is scum. Well if the page 1 posts are "mostly joke posting" then why would you think that his post is scummy for doing a poor job of creating a good town atmosphere ? You specifically say here that you would NOT have a scum read on him for his page 1 joke posting On November 21 2013 02:03 cDgCorazon wrote: Yes because I am going to have a scum read on sciberia after 1 page of mostly joke posting... So I ask again. Why did you think Sci was scummy? | ||
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On November 21 2013 06:24 cDgCorazon wrote: Sorry, but if you don't like the post I chose, the give me a real answer. Or point me to a better post. I asked several times. I read your filter and all of your answers are the same as the one I posted.Sorry when you said my filter I thought you meant that I read the whole filter. Read more plz | ||
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On November 21 2013 06:40 cDgCorazon wrote: Yeah it better be ok because it's the last I'm answering about it. You're not reading my filter...I made several posts about where I talk about why I was suspicious of Sci. The end. You don't get to end it. Would you rather I vote for you instead of question you about it? Stop saying I'm not reading your filter because I've read it more than I've read anyone elses as evidenced by the fact that I've quoted the shit out of it. The bottom line is: - You said Sci was scummy for his page 1 post - You later said that you would not base a scum read off of page 1 posts - You refuse to acknowledge or defend the above Now I'll stop if you want and are saying you're not gonna address this anymore. But what I posted above are all facts that people should be aware of. | ||
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On November 21 2013 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the best case in this game. Really, cause I think this case sucks. @ first I read it and thought that top bolded quote was from aqua and thought "yeah, that is pretty shifty. But no shiftier than how Rean said he was gonna vote for people that post meaningless one-liners and then proceed to make a bunch of meaningless one-line posts. But that wasn't even aquanims quote. He was just agreeing w/ the general sentiment. I don't how you can see that post and believe that aqua was saying that he was always gonna vote his top scumread. | ||
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On November 21 2013 10:24 sciberbia wrote: Of the players that started posting since I went to bed last night, I think Onegu looks by far the worst. His actions look inconsistent with a town mindset. Pay close attention to what his reads are, and how what he chooses to post about is incongruous with his stated reads. + Show Spoiler [first post] + On November 20 2013 20:28 Onegu wrote: Reans first post into the thread and it just fakes activity. He doesnt say what he agrees with and there are multiple things to agree with, does he agree with all or only some he, never actually says what points he agrees with. This is a very scummy first post. Also if mocsta didnt retract his post limit on himself I was going to call him scum, but he did and I am ok with it for now. I do want to point out he only takes it after cora points out his spam. But unlike cora I thought it was scummy, because it was a easy way to avoid conversation. The was one more post from mocsta I didnt like will find it in moment it was post 4or 5 where he gives 3 scum reads with no reason and then says half the thread hasnt posted so his reads can change. Coras case on Sciberia is terribad and scummy. Anyway rean is really scumm though. Sorry Im at the mall but when I am home I will catchup on both of my games and be up late playing. Ill be checking in periodicly while Im at the mall though. In Onegu's first post, he states pretty significant scumreads on rean and Cora, both of whom have had significant heat on them today. But he spends the majority of his actual words in his post rambling about Mocsta's post count restriction, which is so irrelevant, seeing as he dropped it. Rean and Cora are rather large issues in the thread, and given that Onegu has rather significant scumreads on them, you would expect the majority of his posts to be dedicated to them, but notice how he always seems to instead ramble on about Mocsta. + Show Spoiler [Onegu] + On November 20 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote: Umm I think you are scum with rean. Catching scum would be my motive. On November 20 2013 22:44 Onegu wrote: That and his early post about giving scum reads to like the only three people who posted. Plus his thread control doesnt seem natural, its like he saw he could do it as scum but wasnt planning on doing it but he did it anyway. Ill give more when Im back home. On November 21 2013 01:49 Onegu wrote: Ok I am home and put my son to sleep so Im getting out my notebook rereading everything and will be back with you shortly, also I basicly agree with everything JJD has said so far minus a small bit of the cora stuff, but the rean and mocsta stuff yeah. But he took back his mospcsta scum read :/. Also I didnt read anyone being a douche to you mocsta so just stop already. On November 21 2013 03:37 Onegu wrote: @MOCSTA 1 hes trying to be clever there is nothing to be overdone and there is no way a troll post like this can be scummy, fuck the police was already taken... 2 why cant sciberia find the repeat and calling of you obv town scummy, but your troll post null as it was the first post in the thread? You getting that it is scum-scum interaction I dont understand how you get that read from this post. 3 how is this agressive, you put a pregame post restriction, then start the game numbering your posts, seems like you are going to keep your post restriction up. Calling you out for it isnt agressive its correct when all your first few posts are trolling. 4 this is fine 5 he made a troll response how is that overcompensated? Doesnt make sense and him not thinking the same as you is a scum read? 6 the first part of this is correct that post was null, the second part you can only get so much info from the first page and alot of page one was trolling. Telling someone to keep looking isnt scummy, its not damage control. 7 How is this a scumslip, 2 different people thought you were masons, I know you kinda think they are both scum at this point, but when you drop lines about being connected with thrawn people might think you are masoned, no way this is a scumslip. 8 again not a scumslip 9 reans first post is uber scummy. It fakes agreeing with coras null post, and then says nothing and there is no way he thinks he is saying something meaningful. 10 iirc you had already said you werent masons so he says the only other option how is that townie? 12 meh ok 12b also fine 13 you do the samething later on when you talking about haveing such a good town atmospher so how can you give him scum points for this? 14 syas nothing why you post this, I dont know his meta so this poat means nothing... 15 still dont know how you are seeing scum scum intreactions here. Maybe you are just tunneled at this point. Also at this point you say you like aqua calling out rean. 16 again why post a completely null post? 17 This is fine, but you are like he agrees with me that mean hes awesome town 18 this has been talked about already, why are you so tunneled on scum-scum here doesnt make since. 19 the post is good that means the timeing is fine also, even if I am argueing with someone and I see something that needs questioned I will question it reguardless of what else is going on 20 admit to being tunneled 21 this is fine 22 tunneled 23 meh no point in continueing on with cora, him moveing on is fine and how he did it was fine. 24 really wishywashy post but also slightly dinstanceing himself from rean while giveing him a town read at the same time. I think this is really scummy from you mocsta. Your thoughts on rean is just really odd. You can tell a lot about a player's alignment by looking at what they choose to post about. It doesn't make a lot of sense for town!Onegu to be spending all his posts on Mocsta, even pulling up really old (now somewhat irrelevent) posts from Mocsta and breaking them down, when he has stated strong scumreads on Rean and Corazon, both of which he may actually be able to get lynched today. Is he even pushing a Mocsta lynch? No. He's not actively pushing for anything at all. He doesn't seem to think Mocsta is scum anymore than he thinks Rean and Cora are scum, so it looks to me like he just wanted to stay away from the Rean and Cora wagons for one reason or another, and in order to still look like he was doing something complained a lot about Mocsta. It doesn't add up. I think he could be the best lynch today. Need to reread Aquanim, Cora, and Rean. Not sure who I want to lynch most. In the meantime I'd appreciate some other thoughts on Onegu. I have no problem w/ Onegas first post. WHat he said about Mocsta being scum if he didn't retract his post limit. Seemed like a perfectly fine thing to talk about. I was thinking the exact same thing And I think he's right in that we shouldn't be giving Mocsta a definate townread since he's done some scummy stuff this game. But I do agree w/ you that he needs to get off mocsta cause he's not getting lynched today, and start pushing his other reads some more. | ||
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What's your read on Rean right now? Do you think he's a bad lynch today? | ||
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I'd also be down w/ killing a lurker. First instinct tells me jampi is the best lurker lynch but I'll read up more tomorrow. | ||
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On November 21 2013 13:26 Rean wrote: How many fucking posts will I have to answer where people make statements WITHOUT READING THE FUCKING POST THEY'RE QUOTING. I, in exact words say I'm not trying to defend Cora and you see that as admitting to defending him? I was pointing out a mistake in Mocsta's logic because I didn't want him to use poor arguments that Cora could easily deflect. Is this wrong in your eyes? And your "it's not like he says", both things are the fucking same just differently worded. You can say you weren't trying to defend cora. But you were. Moc made an argument and you said it was flawed. There's no other way to interpret that. And you didn't even point out what you didn't like about mocstas case. WHy did you think that Moc was falling into the trap? How could cora have easily deflected his argument? By saying "Your logic is flawed because you think I'm scum." ? | ||
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what I'm saying is, you said that you were "pointing out a mistake in Mocsta's logic". But saying that Moc is falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap is NOT a flaw in logic. It could explain why Moc was using faulty logic. But it's not a mistake in logic itself. | ||
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On November 21 2013 13:47 JarJarDrinks wrote: I keep coming up w/ better ways to phrase what I'm asking. My real question is this:Not sure if my point came across there. what I'm saying is, you said that you were "pointing out a mistake in Mocsta's logic". But saying that Moc is falling into the "he must be scum so I'll try to interpret everything he says as scummy" trap is NOT a flaw in logic. It could explain why Moc was using faulty logic. But it's not a mistake in logic itself. Why when you read Mocs case did you think that he might be falling into that trap? How come you didn't read it and think "that makes sense", especially since you had a scumread on cora? bed now for me too | ||
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On November 21 2013 13:55 Rean wrote: It's not defending him, it's making sure Cora can't defend himself as easily by making sure the arguments are solid. As for your second point, when you quoted the post where "I defend Cora", did you happen to notice that the reason for my comment on Mocsta's post was in the same damn post right below what you quoted? With further explanation in the next post when Mocsta asks me about it? OK right, this sentence: "seems like a legitimate point to me rather than a scum-slip. But it could be a way of distancing himself from Scib if he flips red." I guess I forgot about that. You did give a reason. It just seems like a strange thing to say about someone you're reading as scum. If it's a legitimate point then he's not scum. | ||
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On November 21 2013 17:25 Mocsta wrote: <3 you man. Pretty much my reads exactly. Though I'd probably move Scib and Onegu up to the green group. Rayn has fallen way down for me from his early game. If I was gonna remove anyone from the reds, Rayne would probably take their place.The Good: {Thrawn, JarJarDrinks, Aquanim, Bereft} The Bad: {Onegu, LoneMeow, Rayn, Sciberbia} The Ugly: {Rean, jampidampi, Corazon} The only thing troubling, and I think you touched on this earlier, I'm not sure if I'm crazy about a Rean/Cora scumteam. Would need to reread a bunch but I think that can be worried about after the flip. | ||
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On November 21 2013 23:21 jampidampi wrote: Especially since Rayn had a scumread on Rean earlier in the day. Basically the fact that Rean admitted he made a mistake makes Rayn switch from thinking he's scum, to balls out hardcore defending him.How does admitting mistakes make someone town? You seem quite certain that he is in fact town. | ||
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On November 21 2013 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##UnvoteIf anyone thinks these posts come from a townie vote for me. Otherwise vote for Mocsta. ##Vote: Rayn | ||
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