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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#5481
Risen just because you aren't doing the exact same things as WHC doesn't mean your methods are the same fucking thing. Post-game analysis states that "risen should have been easy to spot because he came back to the thread every so often to shit up the thread" look what you have done the past 10+ pages, completely insight random bull shit, JUST like WHC so don't give me that bs about "oh boo hoo its nothing like that game" because it is, just in a different light. If you were town you wouldn't honestly give a shit like you are doing now, you play to win as scum. You didn't give any shits until your name starts to pop up as a potential lynch candidate and now look, you've listed off names that are completely different from reads you have given all game.

Onegu is literally full of crap too. Yes, I bussed in hogwarts but that was because it was necessary, the entire scum team died bar 3 people. This game nothing really went wrong, what need would I have to bus? 1 scum is dead in 2 nights. Not really a scenario where anyone would need to bus really, he comes back to the thread claiming that he has read but really, nothing he says has any weight to it. He gives an updated list of people he thinks are scum, 2 names. 2 names that he has "pushed" this game to no avail and when there is a 5 man scum team that is appalling.

BC, why isn't EVERYONE ON THIS GUY. A fucking vigi aimed claimed to aim his shot at BC and he was RB'd, how much more evidence do you even need?? If BC was town, he would be dead 100%. There is no way that they waste a rb on a vig attacking a town instead of potentially using it elsewhere because really, who else was in the limelight other than BC for potential lynch today? A list of lurkers. Great. There is no logical reason he is alive other than the entire scum being lurkers.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 22 2013 22:44 GMT
#5482
Coag, you think scumoats was relatively active D1, following up on conversations, and having pretty clear lines of thought?
Fe fi fo fum.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#5483
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 23:00 GMT
#5484
BC can you explain your read on Mig? I'm trying to figure out wtf it is but all I get from your recent filter is that you're spending a whole lot of time trying to make him look like ass without blatantly saying "these things are scummy". It looks like you should be angrier with him no matter what your read on him might be... it's a huge change in tone from your earlier "fuck everyone in the game" posts. It looks like you're simultaneously trying to discredit him, avoid talking about his alignment, and keep the conversation passive.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:01 GMT
#5485
On November 23 2013 07:43 Holyflare wrote:
Risen just because you aren't doing the exact same things as WHC doesn't mean your methods are the same fucking thing. Post-game analysis states that "risen should have been easy to spot because he came back to the thread every so often to shit up the thread" look what you have done the past 10+ pages, completely insight random bull shit, JUST like WHC so don't give me that bs about "oh boo hoo its nothing like that game" because it is, just in a different light. If you were town you wouldn't honestly give a shit like you are doing now, you play to win as scum. You didn't give any shits until your name starts to pop up as a potential lynch candidate and now look, you've listed off names that are completely different from reads you have given all game.

Onegu is literally full of crap too. Yes, I bussed in hogwarts but that was because it was necessary, the entire scum team died bar 3 people. This game nothing really went wrong, what need would I have to bus? 1 scum is dead in 2 nights. Not really a scenario where anyone would need to bus really, he comes back to the thread claiming that he has read but really, nothing he says has any weight to it. He gives an updated list of people he thinks are scum, 2 names. 2 names that he has "pushed" this game to no avail and when there is a 5 man scum team that is appalling.

BC, why isn't EVERYONE ON THIS GUY. A fucking vigi aimed claimed to aim his shot at BC and he was RB'd, how much more evidence do you even need?? If BC was town, he would be dead 100%. There is no way that they waste a rb on a vig attacking a town instead of potentially using it elsewhere because really, who else was in the limelight other than BC for potential lynch today? A list of lurkers. Great. There is no logical reason he is alive other than the entire scum being lurkers.

I don't think I've particularly shit up the thread more than anyone else. I think since I came back into the thread some very important things have been cleared up. Just look at the Pandain/SS situation. Look at how people are starting to consolidate (in some cases onto me but that's still consolidation). Sicne I've come back things have been going better. Is the cause of that entirely me? Probably not. You ARE, however, twisting things to fit a narrative you're trying to push and only are able to because I responded to your initial horrible justification. I mean just look at how much you've latched onto Mig's reasoning! Plus points for Mig, minus points for you.

I'm trying to think about whether I should be unvoting Pandain here.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#5486
Mig's reasoning? MIGS REASONING? LOLOLOLOL
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#5487
read the thread, and die plz
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#5488
Mig very clearly has stated how he feels I might be scum b/c I've come in and caused so much shit to go down.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#5489
Oh shit I had no idea I posted these in the voting thread lol

On November 23 2013 06:20 Risen wrote:
For reference Pandain and I are tied, I am still to be lynched as I got higher more recently. There's still so much time left in the day. If SS is bussing Oats here god damnit man I want scum play of the century don't do this. If Oats is town why didn't SS consider all the things austin just told me about? I don't find austin as scummy as before because he took the time to help me out. I don't want to see him lynched Onegu plz


On November 23 2013 06:21 Risen wrote:
Ninja unvote shenans SS plz respond unless you already have then toss me a link plz

Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#5490
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:10 GMT
#5491
Oh I thought you were referring to the BC point because he said that too a bit ago and that still isn't his point about you either because everyone in the thread has commented how bad it is when you come back and post a list of names and afk again. It's unproductive, there is no reasoning and it wasted peoples time.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#5492
On November 23 2013 07:24 supersoft wrote:
actually a scumteam Risen/Oats is possible. Distancing himself from Oats before his death makes sense.

I just realized ss unvoted me then revoted me with this as his justification and hasn't responded to the point I raised about it lol.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#5493
On November 23 2013 08:09 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes


But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#5494
Also what you have said the past few pages has been nothing really useful, it was austin who consolidated the reads of the thread so it is his effort.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:12 GMT
#5495
On November 23 2013 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
Oh I thought you were referring to the BC point because he said that too a bit ago and that still isn't his point about you either because everyone in the thread has commented how bad it is when you come back and post a list of names and afk again. It's unproductive, there is no reasoning and it wasted peoples time.

Sure there's reasoning. It gives people an updated perspective on how I'm viewing things.

For example, Pandain is back to being scummy for me because of his inability to believe Thrawn is scum and his clinging to a viewpoint instead of being open to change it (in my mind that's for fear of appearing like a flip flopper which townies shouldn't be afraid of)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:13 GMT
#5496
On November 23 2013 08:11 Holyflare wrote:
Also what you have said the past few pages has been nothing really useful, it was austin who consolidated the reads of the thread so it is his effort.

Which is in line with what I've said so....
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:13 GMT
#5497
Also please tell me how my justification is wrong because I really want to be able to figure you out.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#5498
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

Can you just sheep me and love me afterwards?
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#5499
On November 23 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
Also please tell me how my justification is wrong because I really want to be able to figure you out.

Which part are you referring to. I'm an open book yo
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 22 2013 23:17 GMT
#5500
On November 23 2013 08:15 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
Also please tell me how my justification is wrong because I really want to be able to figure you out.

Which part are you referring to. I'm an open book yo


The part about WHC and you returning to screw things up. That's what you did in that game.

You had a scum read on me day 1 because I said the same thing yet somehow it fell off with not really much comment on it and now here we are again with you saying the same thing, disregarding everything before.

I want to know why this game is different to that game? It's just less words but same motive IMO
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