EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 277
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Hopeless1der
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter. Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2. Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't. So... what do you want? BC/rayn lynch? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
YESSSS SINCE FOREVER. | ||
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:33 Hopeless1der wrote: Risen, I'll gladly look into the cases HF has made tonight. I don't think you can get enough votes onto him in the meantime. You mentioned you are not satisfied with the Pandain/SS resolution. Can we go back to that? Also, Austin is screaming at you for some attention. Responded to Austin. I honestly don't know what's up with the ss/Pandain resolution. It's a really, really fucked situation. There's clear lying going on, there's clear misdirection going on, but it can all be explained by miscommunication... or can it? It dragged on for so many pages I wasn't able to get a good read on ss/pandain's responses. It doesn't help that neither of them answered anything for so long. What were they doing? Talking to each other in scum QT about how to get themselves out? SS's response that he thought pandain was claiming to be a veteran of TL is so bullshit it makes my toes curl. His followup that Oats/Risen scumteam is possible is also bullshit. Oats doesn't happen without me. Oats STILL isn't happening. Why is town ss ignoring all the shit austin brought up a little bit ago? Why is he treating his RB as conf scum? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:33 Risen wrote: I don't care if you hate questions like this. You are blowing up at HF for crafting some case on you based on play last game where you played good scum or you played decent scum and town played like poop or whatever.I'm bussing one of my scummy teammate homies because they're scummy as shit. Normal joe is defending his scum team and trying to misconstrue what people have said. I really hate questions like this. What do I do as scum always? I find the most scummy person in the thread and build a case on them, regardless of their alignment. It just helps me find scummy things about people when I know their alignment. You KNOW that he hasn't read all your games, and that he's overanalyzing a particular game. You, assuming you're town here, KNOW that he's not bussing you. So what that leaves me is that you think HF, if he's scum, is trying to defend his scumbuddies and he's trying to misconstrue what people have said. He's just building a case on someone scummy. My question is....why you? Why, when he's getting little traction on his case and posts specifically, all his HWC mafia references, does he keep going. The votes are spread. He PROBABLY doesn't have to protect someone all that hard. Why does scum HF attack YOU specifically, and in this really, really, HF-specific way ----> constant references to a game you guys just recently played in. Do you think he's effectively making you look scummy? Do you think HE thinks he's effectively making you look scummy? | ||
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Risen
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Your case is awesome. I don't want to lynch rayn right now. I don't think we have the people to lynch rayn. I'm not as sure on rayn as I am about other people. BC needs to get lynched, we need to find out who the second lynch is going to be asap so we can start digging. Is it me? Bummer, but there's information to be gleaned from this. Look at Grack, he looks terrible in all this. Look at HF, even worse. Look at SS, my god holy shitballs awful. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:38 Risen wrote: Your case is awesome. I don't want to lynch rayn right now. I don't think we have the people to lynch rayn. I'm not as sure on rayn as I am about other people. BC needs to get lynched, we need to find out who the second lynch is going to be asap so we can start digging. Is it me? Bummer, but there's information to be gleaned from this. Look at Grack, he looks terrible in all this. Look at HF, even worse. Look at SS, my god holy shitballs awful. rayn is the most likely out of those 4 you name. HF is scum with him don't fucking worry. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:36 austinmcc wrote: I don't care if you hate questions like this. You are blowing up at HF for crafting some case on you based on play last game where you played good scum or you played decent scum and town played like poop or whatever. You KNOW that he hasn't read all your games, and that he's overanalyzing a particular game. You, assuming you're town here, KNOW that he's not bussing you. So what that leaves me is that you think HF, if he's scum, is trying to defend his scumbuddies and he's trying to misconstrue what people have said. He's just building a case on someone scummy. My question is....why you? Why, when he's getting little traction on his case and posts specifically, all his HWC mafia references, does he keep going. The votes are spread. He PROBABLY doesn't have to protect someone all that hard. Why does scum HF attack YOU specifically, and in this really, really, HF-specific way ----> constant references to a game you guys just recently played in. Do you think he's effectively making you look scummy? Do you think HE thinks he's effectively making you look scummy? Why me? I'm the clear frontrunner for second lynch in front of LM or Pandain or SS or Oats. All of those people look really bad. My gameplay isn't the most endearing. I am the easiest person to push a mislynch onto. I don't think he's being effective. I think the majority of the train on me is scum, not town. | ||
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Risen
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austinmcc
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On November 23 2013 08:40 Risen wrote: If I count correctly, you have 4 votes.Why me? I'm the clear frontrunner for second lynch in front of LM or Pandain or SS or Oats. All of those people look really bad. My gameplay isn't the most endearing. I am the easiest person to push a mislynch onto. I don't think he's being effective. I think the majority of the train on me is scum, not town. That's, frankly, not a boatload. I don't think it's near enough to say you're a "clear frontrunner." For all the people moving onto you, or the train, or whatever, since the last vote count I see THREE UNVOTES on you and TWO VOTES. You've LOST VOTES. I don't terribly see that as an effective scum push when really they only need a couple votes. If scum has is out for you, you'd have an extra vote or two IF they had active members that cared at all. The fact that you're LOSING votes speaks to me that either a push is going elsewhere, or there isn't some concerted action to get you lynched. | ||
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Risen
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Risen
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On November 23 2013 08:44 austinmcc wrote: If I count correctly, you have 4 votes. That's, frankly, not a boatload. I don't think it's near enough to say you're a "clear frontrunner." For all the people moving onto you, or the train, or whatever, since the last vote count I see THREE UNVOTES on you and TWO VOTES. You've LOST VOTES. I don't terribly see that as an effective scum push when really they only need a couple votes. If scum has is out for you, you'd have an extra vote or two IF they had active members that cared at all. The fact that you're LOSING votes speaks to me that either a push is going elsewhere, or there isn't some concerted action to get you lynched. I thought I was at 5 with ss coming back onto me? Regardless, I'm still being lynched as things stand, correct? Mission accomplished, no? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:43 Risen wrote: The population of India + the population of china = the number of mislynch options scum has right now.EBWOP: And prior to my sudden outburst how was HF to know I'd get involved in the game beyond a smidgen of defense? As far as he knows when he makes that first post I'm not defending myself at all. He also knows I hate defending myself. I know he read some of my games during WHC. It's only after my burst in posting that HF sees I'm going to actually be posting more and now has to appear to be pushing me while maintaining a semblance of being "open to change his mind". He's not open to changing his mind, and he's clinging to his misleading statements about my gameplay because he doesn't know what else to do. If he's scum, and multiple people have pulled their votes off you, he can SUPER DUPER MEGA easily hop off you and onto ANY NUMBER OF MISLYNCHES. How can he not know what else to do? SOMEONE out of oats/BC/SS/you/pandain/thrawn/rayn is town. Multiple people in that list are town. If he's scum, he can change his mind and hop onto another mislynch EZPZ. This doesn't MAKE him town. But it's way way way way easier for him to be town than you're saying, because scum do not, imo, need to really super duper hammer on you right now if you're town. There are too many options. He is in here expending a ton of effort trying to make you look scummy while you're losing votes, and he's mainly arguing really specific stuff that he thinks based on a single past game. Yet you're all super defensive about it. | ||
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Risen
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austinmcc
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onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack. Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:47 austinmcc wrote: The population of India + the population of china = the number of mislynch options scum has right now. If he's scum, and multiple people have pulled their votes off you, he can SUPER DUPER MEGA easily hop off you and onto ANY NUMBER OF MISLYNCHES. How can he not know what else to do? SOMEONE out of oats/BC/SS/you/pandain/thrawn/rayn is town. Multiple people in that list are town. If he's scum, he can change his mind and hop onto another mislynch EZPZ. This doesn't MAKE him town. But it's way way way way easier for him to be town than you're saying, because scum do not, imo, need to really super duper hammer on you right now if you're town. There are too many options. He is in here expending a ton of effort trying to make you look scummy while you're losing votes, and he's mainly arguing really specific stuff that he thinks based on a single past game. Yet you're all super defensive about it. We're going to have to disagree on HF then. This isn't the town HF I played with last game. Where are his giant cases strung out over multiple posts? Where are his meta arguments backed by people's previous games? Is he trying to change his gameplay? Awesome, I can dig it, but why not acknowledge that in his push on me? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
You got me as town right? Could you sheep me and lynch rayn? I am really confident he is scum. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:47 Risen wrote: If you're town and scum is pushing you, it IS successful.EBWOP: And someone with 4 or 5 votes in this extremely fractured lynch is very clearly frontrunner material, in my opinion. Things are so spread out if scum wants to mislynch they only need to have 2 or 3 people on me. It's what you've been fighting against for a while now, so I don't get why you aremn't seeing that. It's why I said the push on me isn't that successful, but it is going to work as things stand right now unless I'm misunderstanding the bvote thread. In my mind, scum DO NOT want to read the thread today. Scum look at the votes and see a mess. Scum look at the thread and see a mess. Scum feel like they're sitting pretty, or half-pretty, based on how many frontrunners are actually mafia. IMO, scum drop some dinky votes or cases or reads or whatever and peace the hell out. They don't NEED to wreck the thread, and they PROBABLY don't need to play much damage control on votes. If BC is mafia, he's PROBABLY a goner, and we can look back at people who wavered on him, or wanted to lynch other folks, or whatever, especially at the points in the day where he had like 4-5 votes and was not a clear frontrunner. But I don't think scum need to come in here and bust ass and pretend like they're trying to lynch someone and really convince people. IMO, MOST scum take the lazy play here. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:49 austinmcc wrote: I see Mig, super, pandain, HF, onegu at last votecount. onegu unvotes super unvotes pandain unvotes super votes again grack votes you should now be at mig, super, HF, grack. Rayn picked up 2 votes to go to 4. There are some other folks at 4 maybe or something. There are a bunch of unaccounted for votes (I have one of those). I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 23 2013 08:51 Risen wrote: I am wrong, then. This rayn push concerns me. I think people may be riding Koshi to a mislynch. I also don't like how certain Koshi is of HF scum while pushing rayn so hard. Where is rayn? Have you considered that maybe HF feels comfortable with his vote on me because he doesn't think I'm going to be lynched and will attempt to mislynch me tomorrow or sometime in the future? Dude.................... If there is 1 lynch I am certain about it is the rayn lynch. | ||
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