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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#5501
EBWOP: I think you mean this "My other vote will go on risen. He comes into the thread and gives us a few names, tells us players look bad and then leaves again. His scum game that I played with him he did the same thing, although in a much more gameplaying way. He is pretty useless and just trying to confuse us. "

I've already responded. Since coming into the thread I've helped push for consolidation (an austin led effort) and I've been integral in getting the SS/Pandain situation cleared up. Was there a little chaos? Sure. But I don't think getting through all that misunderstanding was going to be clean in any universe. Also, it still hasn't been all that cleared up (see: hopeless). I did not do the same thing at all in our last game together. This is what makes you scum in my eyes. You're very much misrepresenting my gameplay in WHC.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#5502
"Destructive town".. lol Holyflare, you are funny.
table for two on a tv tray
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#5503
On November 23 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:09 Pandain wrote:
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes


But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been.

No there's bigger people to fry then a person who started being less townie then he was day two
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#5504
It;s day 3 and this is the first time that you have done that, the rest of the game has been what I said.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 22 2013 23:19 GMT
#5505
It's easy to also agree with consolidating if some votes may be on scum members so that makes no difference
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#5506
On November 23 2013 08:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:15 Risen wrote:
On November 23 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
Also please tell me how my justification is wrong because I really want to be able to figure you out.

Which part are you referring to. I'm an open book yo


The part about WHC and you returning to screw things up. That's what you did in that game.

You had a scum read on me day 1 because I said the same thing yet somehow it fell off with not really much comment on it and now here we are again with you saying the same thing, disregarding everything before.

I want to know why this game is different to that game? It's just less words but same motive IMO

If you're honestly looking at that game and this one and seeing the same thing why are you even talking to me? This whole effort by you to try and "figure me out" is a total ruse. Once I'm gone (if I do end up being lynched) lynch HF. This whole effort is a ruse, he's clearly not willing to change his mind on the subject, and he's very VERY clearly twisting my gameplay last game and this one hoping no one will go read through my previous game. His push on me here has amounted to "well last game you provided some justification for your pushes but didn't back them. Here you provide no justification for your pushes and are not backing them. See? Same thing. Wat
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:22 GMT
#5507
On November 23 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
It's easy to also agree with consolidating if some votes may be on scum members so that makes no difference

Going to completely ignore the whole pandain/ss situation? Going to simply tunnel? What we have here is a clearly scum HF unsure of how to play. I think he's a noob so I'll give him a pass this game. Your town play is much more impressive.

##unvote: Pandain
##vote: Holyflare


Let's get this wagon rolling folks! Oats/HF should be the second lynch beside BC. Or me beside BC and then those two. Choo Choo!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 23:23 GMT
#5508
On November 23 2013 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

Can you just sheep me and love me afterwards?


koshi i would love nothing more than to sheep you because I have 0 idea who else to vote for but I just don't find your points convincing. pretty much everything you're descridbing as points against him are things I attribute to town rayn's play
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 22 2013 23:24 GMT
#5509
On November 23 2013 08:18 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
On November 23 2013 08:09 Pandain wrote:
On November 23 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Pandain can you explain why you are writing me off as town so easily when I have not done jack shit for like 48 hours? What was your read on me at the start of this cycle, and what have been your thoughts about me since then until now?

On November 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote:

There are more little things but I think this is good enough to sheep me?


Koshi I do not think rayn calling everyone scum makes him scum :p Your argument seems like it's mostly "rayn's play has been anti-town, so he's mafia" ... I come to the exact opposite conclusion. I think his play looks a lot more like destructive town rayn than cooperative agreeable WC2 scum rayn

I also haven't done anything, doesn't mean I'm scum. You were extremely good day two when you replaced in and there's little reason to assume your scum in my eyes


But you didn't start doubting my alignment during this cycle? Ever? You didn't even answer the question, I'm trying to figure out what your thought process has been.

No there's bigger people to fry then a person who started being less townie then he was day two


that is not the issue...

I don't have a problem with you deciding "maybe I'll just ignore him for now." My problem is that you never once thought "hmm maybe this afk guy isn't as townie as i thought" regardless of who you decide to vote for.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 22 2013 23:24 GMT
#5510
Sheep me because i have my votes on actual scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#5511
Ok Risen lynch looks pretty good. He was really trollish and acted like he didn't give a shit all game long and just laughed when he was leading the votes earlier in the day, and now he started getting really try hard defending himself. I'm pretty sure he cares a lot about his scum reputation lol. Plus just from looking at the vote list I'm more comfortable with Risen lynch than Pandain.
##Unvote: Coag
##Vote: Risen
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#5512
EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#5513
Im masoned with ss, i brought up the entire ss/pandain situation by scouring ss'logs, half of the people in this game were also in WHC so if i say something intentionally false they would most definitely see it. I'm asking you questions to get a read on you to actually change my mind but you're ignoring it with OMGUS and so I'm quite comfortable leaving it where it is until you answer reasonably
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:26 GMT
#5514
On November 23 2013 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok Risen lynch looks pretty good. He was really trollish and acted like he didn't give a shit all game long and just laughed when he was leading the votes earlier in the day, and now he started getting really try hard defending himself. I'm pretty sure he cares a lot about his scum reputation lol. Plus just from looking at the vote list I'm more comfortable with Risen lynch than Pandain.
##Unvote: Coag
##Vote: Risen

How the fuck did I forget about the liar? lol
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
November 22 2013 23:27 GMT
#5515
On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok Risen lynch looks pretty good. He was really trollish and acted like he didn't give a shit all game long and just laughed when he was leading the votes earlier in the day, and now he started getting really try hard defending himself. I'm pretty sure he cares a lot about his scum reputation lol. Plus just from looking at the vote list I'm more comfortable with Risen lynch than Pandain.
##Unvote: Coag
##Vote: Risen

How the fuck did I forget about the liar? lol

you didn't. It pained you that you couldn't policy lynch me.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:27 GMT
#5516
On November 23 2013 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
Im masoned with ss, i brought up the entire ss/pandain situation by scouring ss'logs, half of the people in this game were also in WHC so if i say something intentionally false they would most definitely see it. I'm asking you questions to get a read on you to actually change my mind but you're ignoring it with OMGUS and so I'm quite comfortable leaving it where it is until you answer reasonably

I've very clearly answered your questions. This is just you trying to hold the appearance of being willing to change your mind. Do not be swayed by this falseness folks.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 22 2013 23:28 GMT
#5517
RISEN. WE ARE GOING TO TALK FOR A MOMENT.

THERE ARE NINETEEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIFTEEN PEOPLE GOT VOTES. FOURTEEN PEOPLE HAD VOTES A MOMENT AGO. PROBABLY LIKE TWELVE AND A HALF PEOPLE HAVE VOTES NOW.

IF YOU ARE MAFIA TODAY, A COUPLE HOURS FROM LYNCH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THAT SCENARIO?
IF A NORMAL TL MAFIA PLAYER IS MAFIA TODAY, SAME TIMING, WHAT IS NORMAL JOE DOING IN THAT SCENARIO?
Fe fi fo fum.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#5518
On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: I'm conflicted here because I am not fully satisfied with the Pandain/ss resolution. HF is scum but there aren't many people on him. Oats is scum but there aren't that many people on him. Thrawn train could get rolling but I'm liking his posting here, but then he's just saying logical things without actually putting in effort and so is probably scum. I can't even remember BC posting anymore, so he's probably scum just keeping quiet so he doesn't incriminate anyone on his team. How many scum players are there? I'm quickly wracking up too many names. LM is close to the lead and I can't remember why... which is bad since he's the mason who lurked. Rayn is a lylo lynch for sure but I mean he's got so much filter and he's made cases, that's good enough for me not to vote him right now. It's going to get harder and harder to fake cases as the game goes on and he'll slip up while drunk or something.

On November 22 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 04:00 Koshi wrote:
On November 22 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Koshi you have 12 scumreads?

Could you give your list

towny town:
leaning town:
leaning scum:
scummy scum:


Could you give your list

towny town: Grackaroni, Vayne, Mig, Holyflare
leaning town: Hopeless, Oats, Onegu, Coag, austin, Mr.CC, Slamdunk
leaning scum: Pandain, supersoft, Risen
scummy scum: Cobbler, LM

No idea: Koshi, thrawn

I know one of my "leaning scum on" list dudes is probably worng because it does not make sense otherwise.


This are rayns reads from page 32 out of his 35 pages filter.
Do you see how his vote is not on BC but that he has done nothing to prevent BC lynch? Don't you people remember rayn has been saying BC is scum for so many hours now? Basically since D2.

Are you people fucking kidding me? This is town rayn? No it fucking isn't.
I had a good night of sleep.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:30 GMT
#5519
On November 23 2013 08:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:26 Risen wrote:
On November 23 2013 08:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok Risen lynch looks pretty good. He was really trollish and acted like he didn't give a shit all game long and just laughed when he was leading the votes earlier in the day, and now he started getting really try hard defending himself. I'm pretty sure he cares a lot about his scum reputation lol. Plus just from looking at the vote list I'm more comfortable with Risen lynch than Pandain.
##Unvote: Coag
##Vote: Risen

How the fuck did I forget about the liar? lol

you didn't. It pained you that you couldn't policy lynch me.

I simply mean how did I forget about you in my recent "holy shit there's so many scummy people in this game" post. Hey HF, last game to this game, how many people did I push D2 onwards? How many people am I pushing here? Metametameta, you seem to oh so lov3e meta, you're using it in your justification here! I was very clear and concise about who I wanted to lynch each day in my previous game because I had access to all the information about people's alignments. Want a convincing argument about my gameplay being different here? Look at that one. My gameplay is literally night and day. There's another reason HF is scum. I could believe the push if HF was saying I was changing my meta on purpose to be different from my last game, but he didn't say that. He said my gameplay was the same. And why am I posting so much? Because you fucking people poked the bear and now I'm sitting here invested in the game (also SS/Pandain situation was top tier drama TNT should pick that shit up)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 22 2013 23:33 GMT
#5520
On November 23 2013 08:28 austinmcc wrote:
RISEN. WE ARE GOING TO TALK FOR A MOMENT.

THERE ARE NINETEEN PEOPLE ALIVE. FIFTEEN PEOPLE GOT VOTES. FOURTEEN PEOPLE HAD VOTES A MOMENT AGO. PROBABLY LIKE TWELVE AND A HALF PEOPLE HAVE VOTES NOW.

IF YOU ARE MAFIA TODAY, A COUPLE HOURS FROM LYNCH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THAT SCENARIO?
IF A NORMAL TL MAFIA PLAYER IS MAFIA TODAY, SAME TIMING, WHAT IS NORMAL JOE DOING IN THAT SCENARIO?

I'm bussing one of my scummy teammate homies because they're scummy as shit. Normal joe is defending his scum team and trying to misconstrue what people have said. I really hate questions like this. What do I do as scum always? I find the most scummy person in the thread and build a case on them, regardless of their alignment. It just helps me find scummy things about people when I know their alignment.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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