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His fake-claim because of being busy made sense.
His fake claim of being assassin didn't make sense as town(doesn't get benefit out of it). That is where I have changed my mind.
I don't think town BH, faced with someone who masons him, just claims Assassin to avoid getting shot. I don't think town BH, who is apparently busy, decides to then make another fake-claim and say he's tracker in thread.
This is a web of discourse that BH is spinning that ultimately shows that his shady play, uncharacteristic of his his normal town play, is not playing town.
I don't disagree that there are reasons to claim Assassin from a possible town, but I said that BH might be town. I just said that they're absolutely illogical, and coupled with his other play would be poor play to not lynch him today.
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And to answer your question I'll say BH is probably scum. This is the kind of mindgames he would play as scum
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Now why do you want to vote me of all people
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On November 19 2013 16:17 Pandain wrote:
His fake-claim because of being busy made sense.
His fake claim of being assassin didn't make sense as town(doesn't get benefit out of it). That is where I have changed my mind.
I don't think town BH, faced with someone who masons him, just claims Assassin to avoid getting shot. I don't think town BH, who is apparently busy, decides to then make another fake-claim and say he's tracker in thread.
This is a web of discourse that BH is spinning that ultimately shows that his shady play, uncharacteristic of his his normal town play, is not playing town.
I don't disagree that there are reasons to claim Assassin from a possible town, but I said that BH might be town. I just said that they're absolutely illogical, and coupled with his other play would be poor play to not lynch him today.
Well if I don't stand by my poor play it is also poor play so I'm trapped.
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To answer your question with more comprehension, I think there's a 70% chance that BH is going to be scum in these scenarios.
We take that 70% chance
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Risen, could you explain why you want to lynch Pandain? What makes you think he's scum?
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Gut read. Haven't really read the thread. Scum did a good job clogging it up. I'll read up tomorrow and back up my gut read. Sum of the gut is pandain's interaction with people.
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On November 19 2013 16:56 Risen wrote:
Gut read. Haven't really read the thread. Scum did a good job clogging it up. I'll read up tomorrow and back up my gut read. Sum of the gut is pandain's interaction with people.
you see as I do
My path is set
Follow me on the unpopular road of looking worse all the time?
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Seems to be the way of things.
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Lol portrait change
Wrong Templar
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On November 19 2013 17:03 Risen wrote:
Seems to be the way of things.
I mean my vote is on Raynepelikoneet and FoS on lonemeow and Kush because when I started to actually dig into Raynepelikoneet they both came out of the woodwork
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On November 19 2013 17:05 Alakaslam wrote:I mean my vote is on Raynepelikoneet and FoS on lonemeow and Kush because when I started to actually dig into Raynepelikoneet they both came out of the woodwork
Why aren't you pursuing your FoS targets?
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LoneMeow, could you tell me your top 3 scumreads of the active posters and your biggest scumread under the lurkers?
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Also how are you standing on VE atm?
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
So had my first day on the job! It went pretty well. We ended up going out for dinner. I think I'll fit in pretty well at this place. What's funny is anyone thinking that if I'm the assassin it's worth lynching me. If I were the assassin you could just leave me be and the other assassin would check / shoot me tonight anyways right. I also knew that pushing Grack would probably end this way. This town isn't together enough. Also lol at people thinking i'm an assassin or a mason (wat) or like come on guys get your shit together. Also the assassin claim is tactical since we can't be sure of mason alignments. Also I didn't get an RB PM you can't possibly be like "oh bh should have known this setup is notification-less" I didn't get an RB PM so I let people know cause that's how I roll. Who even uses no-notification setups anyways.
In any case what's really funny, what really gets my goat more than anything else is that people are like finding weird explanations for why Grack can troll and be town or whatever and then when he's serious they take him serious and when people question him he trolls and everyone thinks it's okay. People who thought he was scum just suddenly stop thinking he's scum because in his own Grack-ey way he's so loveable. This is exactly why this style of scum play is so effective. The fact that people are like "yeah that's just grack trolling or whatever dont' worry let's lynch BH" is in fact a piece of supporting evidence in my case on Grack.
When it comes down to it, the reason thrawn was convinced by our interactions in the QT and you guys aren't is that your perceptions are necessarily different as a result of hearing it second hand. You're not personally building a rapport with a guy you masoned to try to get a read on him, working together on a scumread, and realizing that he's just as worried about you being scum as you are about him. You're just reading about some other guy doing that, and psychologically when we hear about an experience rather than experience it ourselves we subconsciously apply a discount to the value of that evidence.
When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance.
Perhaps this is what I deserve for that tracker claim. For what it's worth, people who insisted on policying me based on that shouldn't get crap if I can't turn this around before the day end. People who voted me for other reasons or weird meta reasons (and especially Pandain, whose thought process now seems entirely opaque to me) should get crap. Note that this of course only applies to things said before this post. Despite the fact that Rayn is on my balls (or perhaps because of it) I believe more firmly that he is town. This is Rayn play, and it's more consistent and scum-hunt-ey, however misled he may be, than scum Rayn is normally capable of.
So yeah I'm gonna say as a tldr i'm not a tracker, a mason, or an assassin, and I think Grack is the optimal lynch for today and conditions have not significantly changed since the time I made my case to make me think otherwise. Rayn town, Koshi probably town. Thrawn definitely town, he could have dumped the mason logs and made me look bad at the start of the day but instead he stuck with it and tried to encourage people to talk about other things. Pandain's thought process doesn't mirror that of a townie's, so he's scum, but we're not getting him lynched unless I flip first probably so I'm gonna stick with Grack today
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On November 19 2013 17:05 Alakaslam wrote:I mean my vote is on Raynepelikoneet and FoS on lonemeow and Kush because when I started to actually dig into Raynepelikoneet they both came out of the woodwork
I could lynch rayn.
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^ Not enough reads on the game. Way many words though.
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
Hopeless1 not worth lynching unless we really have spare lynches. vigi him.
I don't understand Risen and take back anything I've said about him
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Yeah BH you just ensured your demise. TL towns are bad yo, pointing out how stupid they are is a sure fire way to piss them off.
Anyways, if you're town after you flip I'm sure pandain will swing along with rayn or something. ((Read as: I'm not sure at all and I'm going to sleep meh))
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
WHAT ABOUT GRACK
also don't lynch rayn jesus christ
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