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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#3521
On November 19 2013 15:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:11 Pandain wrote:
On November 19 2013 15:07 LoneMeow wrote:
Pandain, you wanted Mig lynched earlier, has your read on him changed and if so, what made that happen?

I think Mig is extremely solidly town. His notes page he linked previously is online and still visible to actually see in fact.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag5xQ7DQZXySdGlfcWVTaE5qbUJ3Wm91TUFGSFJsS0E&usp=sharing

The fact he is updating these without flaunting his notes or mentioning them leads me to believe they're honest notes. Furthermore, Mig doesn't pull these kinds of meta tricks nor would he have time to(in my opinion playing with him in Whiteflag).

He has constantly updated them, changed reads, and the reasons are valid enough.


Is there anything besides the spreadsheet you could point out that makes him look like town to you?


Playing pretty similar to Whiteflag although he's pushing people less.

Notes are pretty definitive for me though, unless there's evidence that he's scum he's safe for days to come
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:32 GMT
#3522
What do you think about the accusations against you?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:42 GMT
#3523
On November 19 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote:
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me


Also unless you justify this you're on my scum list
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 19 2013 06:42 GMT
#3524
On November 19 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote:
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me

Today's a double lynch, no?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 19 2013 06:42 GMT
#3525
I don't care what you think Pandain.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 19 2013 06:44 GMT
#3526
On November 19 2013 15:32 Pandain wrote:
What do you think about the accusations against you?


The Hogwards/Noir meta comparison is pretty worthless, it assumes that I wouldn't try to improve my town play after the disaster that was Noir.

I agree that Mocsta's interaction with me looks weird.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:45 GMT
#3527
On November 19 2013 15:42 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 15:13 Pandain wrote:
Alright Risen please justify it.

Furthermore it's quite weird to me that you're even pushing me with awful reasoning. It's 15-2-1-1-1 with me having one vote. The fact you're even pushing an impossible lynch is mind boggling to me

Today's a double lynch, no?


Further evidence you don't read the thread which probably means your town.

No, it's a double lynch tomorrow.

Furthermore, if you thought it was a double lynch, where would your other 'vote' go
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:48 GMT
#3528
Actually the fact you're so out of touch with what's going on in the thread is a bit concerning.

Why do you want to lynch me
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 06:51 GMT
#3529
On November 19 2013 15:48 Pandain wrote:
Actually the fact you're so out of touch with what's going on in the thread is a bit concerning.

Why do you want to lynch me

why do you ignore my questions?

what changed about BH for you? you've gone from "bh is scum for sure i have nothing else to talk about" to "bh isn't scum i don't have anything else to talk about" and back to BH is scum. what's changed about BH since when you decided he was town until now? the assassin bit? can you explain why you think this makes him scum?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:54 GMT
#3530
The fact he claimed assasin is good enough for me. It's proved that he doesn't have town motives for fake-claiming, and the amount that he's done it definitively proves he's anti-town.

Claiming Assassin doesn't help BH gain town cred and it doesn't help him figure out anything about you. In essence, it serves no town benefit.

If you're fake-claiming for no town reason then that only leaves scum reasons.

I've been going through the list, up to Vayne now. I don't have high priority for your questions because you've been quite condenscending towards me.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:54 GMT
#3531
Come on Thrawn, you know this
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 06:56 GMT
#3532
ok what do you think he's going to flip? scum or assassin?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:56 GMT
#3533
Who knows and it doesn't really matter. Scum flips, superb and it leads to other places.

Assasin flips; we get it out of the way, another person is gone, easier to analyze
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 06:59 GMT
#3534
Do you think he's honestly town?

He's fake-claimed twice, others have noted he's never fake-claimed as town before which is surprising but also relevant to this. Now he's fake-claimed twice.

I don't disagree he might be town, but it would be bad town play to not lynch him
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:00 GMT
#3535
Also Risen if you keep acting retarded it won't fly later on in the game
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 07:00 GMT
#3536
On November 19 2013 15:56 Pandain wrote:
Who knows and it doesn't really matter. Scum flips, superb and it leads to other places.

Assasin flips; we get it out of the way, another person is gone, easier to analyze


??

yes it matters, and I want you to answer the question. after I revealed what he said about the fakeclaim you sounded really confident about calling him town for it. now you're saying it has no pro town motive behind it. so what changed? I don't buy the explanation you gave about the assassin claim because you clearly don't even care that there's a high probability that we might be lynching not-scum. did you read the mason logs? do you really think mafia would play so loose?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:01 GMT
#3537
The thing I'm more mind-boggled about is you think I'm more suspicious for not answering your questions
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 19 2013 07:02 GMT
#3538
To clarify for my sake, and to help explain, BH is a mason, correct?
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 07:03 GMT
#3539
On November 19 2013 15:59 Pandain wrote:
Do you think he's honestly town?

He's fake-claimed twice, others have noted he's never fake-claimed as town before which is surprising but also relevant to this. Now he's fake-claimed twice.

I don't disagree he might be town, but it would be bad town play to not lynch him


I really don't know at this point. It's a toss up between town and assassin. I started off thinking he's town but with how long he's been gone I'm starting to believe what he said about trying to play scummy intentionally.

this is not about what is good or bad town play. this is about what your reads are and what is the best course of action for this game in a vacuum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 19 2013 07:07 GMT
#3540
On November 19 2013 15:54 Pandain wrote:If you're fake-claiming for no town reason then that only leaves scum reasons.


This is what I want you to explain. Last night you had a completely different opinion about BH's motives to fakeclaim. My reveal of his fakeclaim made you 180 on your read. But now you say fake claiming serves town no purpose. So which is it?

Go back and read the mason logs. Read his post where he explains why he claimed assassin to me. No town reasons? Or even no assassin reasons?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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