EPTOn November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration?
Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration?
dude it happens like every game
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thrawn2112
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dude it happens like every game | ||
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WaveofShadow
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LOL I fucking did it LAST GAME I was in---everyone called it martyring though I disagreed----I was doing it because I had no scumreads at the time and didn't want to be modkilled rather than throw out an RNG vote. In any case, no to Onegu. Umm.....can we look at Umasi mabes? I liked his response to the Syl question/pressure but maybe there's something else there I'm nto seeing. I think ET wanted to look at him as well? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Onegu didnt read like he was frustrated so much to me iunno. I'll give you that it sounded different when I read it again in his filter. At least thrawns here I can sheep somebody. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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If I'm going to attempt to put in the effort to show up for deadline on my phone or whatever people had better be here and we'd better get a fucking majority. BH I hate you for this majority lynch. I love you but I hate you. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
WoS what's goin through your head right now | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Thats what WoS is doing. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On November 05 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: TLRD; (1) EchelonTee's reasoning for thrawn being scum changes half-way through D1 for some parts of his argument. When townies do this they add new content to their case. EchelonTee, instead of doing this, changes his reasoning for old content to fit his case better. There is no town motivation for doing so. (2) EchelonTee does "skim through player's filter from another game" without actually even skimming through it. There is no town motivation to go into other player's filter from another game and then do nothing there. [u](3) EchelonTee when being called out for his case says "prove to me he is town". This is not how the game works and everyone should know this. This is a justification to sit on his vote when he can't actually prove (as it seems) thrawn is scum because nobody can possibly prove thrawn is town at this stage of the game. (4) EchelonTee is not paying attention and making up stuff on the fly. This has been proven by many things. His filter skim, his change of reasoning, his answer to my gumshoe case, him asking people's opinions on his case on thrawn and when people give them he misses it. None of those things i can see a townie doing in any situation. Fuck the meta analysis. Fine my case was shit, I didn't know that thrawn was smurfing that game. I already indicated I would back away from my case if I had made a mistake On November 05 2013 17:52 EchelonTee wrote:I did not do intensive meta research. I skimmed your posts, but did not skim rayn's posts. If I missed some huge, obvious interaction that shows that you must be town and rayn believes so, I could back off for now. so I think it's completely messed up that you are arguing I am twisting information when I am trying to be as reasonable as possible.I can't believe that you are trying to push a lynch on me at this stage in the game when there is almost no chance I will be lynched. You are contributing to a no-lynch and had better get off of me right now. My main point about thrawn has always been that he didn't do anything, which he himself acknowledges. I guess that's fine in Mafia these days. Vote people who are trying to do things and ignore people who do nothing. I am paying attention and am not making up things on the fly. I'm extremely, extremely insulted that you claim so. Compare my 1:1 with other players to the game and seriously, I'm the one who isn't paying attention to thread? I'm the most scummy to you? I don't even know what to say. I disagree that gumshoe's interactions/contributions are fake, and therefore I'm scum. Seriously. ##Unvote | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
I'm not gonna vote for Onegu, and I was planning on not voting for Sn0 but I'm less sure of that now. Every candidate apart from the 3 I've mentioned here have no more than 1 vote each so..... meh | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 06 2013 03:09 EchelonTee wrote: Fuck the meta analysis. Fine my case was shit, I didn't know that thrawn was smurfing that game. I already indicated I would back away from my case if I had made a mistake so I think it's completely messed up that you are arguing I am twisting information when I am trying to be as reasonable as possible. I can't believe that you are trying to push a lynch on me at this stage in the game when there is almost no chance I will be lynched. You are contributing to a no-lynch and had better get off of me right now. My main point about thrawn has always been that he didn't do anything, which he himself acknowledges. I guess that's fine in Mafia these days. Vote people who are trying to do things and ignore people who do nothing. I am paying attention and am not making up things on the fly. I'm extremely, extremely insulted that you claim so. Compare my 1:1 with other players to the game and seriously, I'm the one who isn't paying attention to thread? I'm the most scummy to you? I don't even know what to say. I disagree that gumshoe's interactions/contributions are fake, and therefore I'm scum. Seriously. ##Unvote This post makes me pretty damn sure you're town---fuck I hate D1 sometimes---so many townreads, not enough scumreads. You removing your vote from thrawn at this point in time is the icing on the cake. ET where are we going? I'm hovering back to Umasi and Sn0 honestly, but there are still things holding me back. I have about 15 min left in my lunch and then I won't be around until either a few hours after deadline or right before deadline, depending on what goes on with my lab this afternoon. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
^^ this is placeholder while I decide | ||
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EchelonTee
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thrawn2112
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Get real. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 06 2013 03:16 EchelonTee wrote: holy fuck stop calling me town don't fucking vote me as blue holy shit lolol Calm your tits. My reasoning for not wanting to vote Sn0 is simply because of the way the votes were piling on to him earlier in the day. I found it extremely unlikely at a time where everybody had their votes on different people that SO many people had him as a 'backup' when one by one their scumreads were lost for whatever reason. It screams of a scum-led mislynch early in the process. That is the only reason why I am hesitant to vote him; his activity and play this game does not make me think he is town however. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 06 2013 03:16 thrawn2112 wrote: ##Vote:hzflank ^^ this is placeholder while I decide Goddamn it thrawn I literally went to bathroom, thought 'oh yeah, hzflank. maybe I placeholder him,' come back, and there you are. you're scaring me. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 05 2013 14:56 hzflank wrote: Doesn't matter now. I was trying to fish in multiple ponds with a single rod, and I messed it up. This is the kind of thing you did while you were scum; i remember that much. I have to go through and look specifically if you ever hinted towards making plays but didn't actually do anything---something about that rings a bell with me but I won't have the time to do it pre-lynch. hell i don't mind the placeholder either right now. I will attempt to be back before the lynch if any major developments happen between now and then. I would suggest other people have a good look at hzflank as well to see if this can turn into a wagon of justice or if we will have to move off closer to the time. ##Vote: hzflank | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
On November 06 2013 02:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Last game I gave him a townread for something and he said stuff like "don't give me a townread for that" and shit. Maybe not full martyr but the mindset is the same. Its "Would scum throw away "towncred" like this? Would scum call attention to themselves like this? Of course not". Its how Onegu plays. I'll admit that I often get the same vibes from his townplay and in general I have real difficulty reading Onegu, but I'd argue that that makes him a serious liability to have moving into the late game. And he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town. I mean, if he IS town, then he wants to die so we should oblige him and solve that questionmark. If he is scum, then we lynch scum. It feels like the right move right now. Besides what townie ever self votes except in frustration? This wasn't frustration it was "look at me I'm so cooperative and want town to win" yeah right. I have seen scum self-martyr (that nuke game? forgot the name, where gonzaw owned VE and BH with nukes), I think one of my scum-mates in that game was super fucking scummy but people said "oh mafia wouldn't completely give up" or something like that. However I don't see a parallel with "don't give me towncred" and "kill me guys, I'm better dead". Those two things seem completely different in terms of scale. I just don't get why he would give up though. He only had like 2 votes on him when he self-voted. It's just so weird. .................................now that I think about it more, a scum Onegu that is legitimately in the hospital and has no time to vote; parking the vote on self seems like a decent way to avoid making up a case. but why wouldnt he just random vote? | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
On November 06 2013 03:22 Sn0_Man wrote: I wish people would actually read page 16 iunno. OO "develops" a scum read on me when I point out that he over-justifies himself and is incredibly worried about his in-thread image, then simply shouts from the rooftops that I'm scum. If you read the interaction, I press a few of OO's buttons and he CANT let it go, as if any hint that he might not be the purest of town is a travesty that must be crushed. It still doesn't add up to me. Not much later, Thrawn points out that all OO's points imply I'm town, something to which there has yet to be any refutation, but somehow im still on everybody's scum radar because I cant post 24hrs a day and OO can say "Sn0 scum" every other post. what are you talking about? | ||
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