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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
November 05 2013 08:05 GMT
#541
Ok Im out for now Ill try to come back but no promise.
Try TL Mafia!!!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 05 2013 08:11 GMT
#542
Ughhhhhhhhh the self-vote.
Fuck now I do want to change it. I don't know if I've ever really seen scum martyr (self-vote, whatever) like that specifically and he gave us pre-death reads.

Rayn he quoted you here---does that thought stand? Is his play too shit to be scum?
##Unvote

ET I await your return because I want to see if you can convince me now that I don't have a primary target. I still don't think I'd go Sn0 today (though if he acts the same way tomorrow as he does today he's dead tomorrow) and I feel better about Umasi than I did so maybe it is thrawn. The thought process thing has yet to steer me wrong though, and I would find it odd that thrawn would be so happy-go-lucky about talking about town circles and whatnot...
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2013 08:14 GMT
#543
Generally yes, it stands. Although now it doesn't because he brought it up. :E
I have no idea what to think about it either.

Could you comment on what i said about gumshoe?
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 05 2013 08:17 GMT
#544
On November 05 2013 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Generally yes, it stands. Although now it doesn't because he brought it up. :E
I have no idea what to think about it either.

Could you comment on what i said about gumshoe?

I see your point but the effort he put in while he WAS here (sporadically) gives me a great deal of pause. Why would he do that as scum? What is the motivation?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2013 08:23 GMT
#545
Bleh.. I can't really say. :E
I think it's not alignment indicative.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:26 GMT
#546
what the fuck
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:29 GMT
#547
that is such an anti-town move, still debating if it's alignment indicative. If you are townie, wanting yourself dead is literally playing against win-condition. Even random voting is better. A no-lynch is better than a mislynch if you know you are townie.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 08:30 GMT
#548
onegu is town methinks

EchelonTee is there anything you want to talk about
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2013 08:31 GMT
#549
gumshoe's contributions in Basterd have a clear point, are transparent and every time they reach to a hard conclusion. None of those things happen in this game and half of his filter anyways is useless because it's about fake case that either serves no purpose if he is town or he just fucked up and is making stuff up if he is scum.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:32 GMT
#550
On November 05 2013 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu is town methinks

EchelonTee is there anything you want to talk about

respond to my case. since you yourself stated that you prefer to be the center of attention.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2013 08:36 GMT
#551
WaveofShadow why do you refuse to talk about gumshoe? Also ET same question?
table for two on a tv tray
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:37 GMT
#552
I don't think he is scummier than the people I am talking about.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:39 GMT
#553
Ugh, I'm going with "too bad to be scum" with Onegu atm.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 05 2013 08:39 GMT
#554
On November 05 2013 17:37 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't think he is scummier than the people I am talking about.

A while ago i commented on your case and asked you to do something. Any reason why you are refusing to answer me?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:40 GMT
#555
I missed that, give me a second
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 08:47 GMT
#556
On November 05 2013 17:32 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu is town methinks

EchelonTee is there anything you want to talk about

respond to my case. since you yourself stated that you prefer to be the center of attention.


The list:

I was not making a list of who isn't lurking with the promise to attack lurkers. I wasn't even making a list of anti-lurkers. I was making a list of anyone who (including lurkers, obviously) wasn't committing to conversation. So the people not on the list includes both lurkers and people like yourself, who at the time I didn't feel like they'd done anything meaningful. The list even included some people who were borderline lurking but at least had made some type of impression on me. The only purpose of such a list is to hopefully intimidate people not on the list to dip their toes farther into the water.

Rayn vote:

If you've really gone through my town games like you appear to then you should see my rayn vote is very much like something I'd do. And you're wrong, I do give my reasoning and I do not regret having my vote on rayn. I think if you read all of my posts about rayn then you can see a clear progression of my read.

Everything else:

Sorry I just don't take the game seriously 100% of the time, especially when I'm bored.

LOL btw I looked at one of my cases you linked as evidence of how I can write a serious case, and one of my points against prom was that he wasn't being my friend. That whole post was kinda trollish, I'm kinda wondering why you used that as an example because there are probably a lot better ones to pick from. With you claiming to have done meta research on me yet you can't see my rayn vote coming from a town thrawn makes me think you went looking into my meta already knowing the outcome of your results.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:48 GMT
#557
On November 05 2013 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ET i don't think those posts you quoted from thrawn make him scummy. There is noone in this game who has contributed to the game in every post of theirs and his vote on me was perfectly reasonable given our interactions in Desert. If you accuse thrawn of being scum because of that i must say you come off as at least as scummy as him ebcause (1) he actually explained his vote and (2) you could have seen that the vote was totally legit at that time for what i said if you looked at his reasoning.

The last quote is actually the only thing that i agree is scummy and in addition to that there are more of those in thrawn's filter.

But, why are you picking some random quotes from thrawn's filter and make it look like he has not contributed much?
Can you do a compilation of thrawn's & gumshoe's contributions to the game and show me thrawn has contributed more than gumshoe has, because afaik that's what you are accusing thrawn of?

You don't need to contribute in every post, obviously. The distinction I made is that thrawn said he would do things, then did not follow up.

His vote on you was somewhat reasonable, but it seemed like merely a pressure vote and not an attempt to pursue scum. That is fine at some stages of the game but I still have no idea who Thrawn thinks is scum. Deadline is in 12 hrs.

I don't know why you are saying I look as scummy as him, because I have stated my thoughts on several people and outlined reasoning as clear as I can make it.

I don't think I was picking random quotes from thrawn's filter. I think that I picked specific quotes that I felt showcased how he is not contributing.

Posts like these show effort and contribution to me, even if I don't really agree with the content. The second post in particular is one that I don't see a scum gumshoe doing. Thrawn has not contributed as much as these posts of gumshoe's.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
November 05 2013 08:50 GMT
#558
On November 05 2013 17:48 EchelonTee wrote:
but I still have no idea who Thrawn thinks is scum.


yeah me too
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:52 GMT
#559
On November 05 2013 17:47 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2013 17:32 EchelonTee wrote:
On November 05 2013 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
onegu is town methinks

EchelonTee is there anything you want to talk about

respond to my case. since you yourself stated that you prefer to be the center of attention.


The list:

I was not making a list of who isn't lurking with the promise to attack lurkers. I wasn't even making a list of anti-lurkers. I was making a list of anyone who (including lurkers, obviously) wasn't committing to conversation. So the people not on the list includes both lurkers and people like yourself, who at the time I didn't feel like they'd done anything meaningful. The list even included some people who were borderline lurking but at least had made some type of impression on me. The only purpose of such a list is to hopefully intimidate people not on the list to dip their toes farther into the water.

Rayn vote:

If you've really gone through my town games like you appear to then you should see my rayn vote is very much like something I'd do. And you're wrong, I do give my reasoning and I do not regret having my vote on rayn. I think if you read all of my posts about rayn then you can see a clear progression of my read.

Everything else:

Sorry I just don't take the game seriously 100% of the time, especially when I'm bored.

LOL btw I looked at one of my cases you linked as evidence of how I can write a serious case, and one of my points against prom was that he wasn't being my friend. That whole post was kinda trollish, I'm kinda wondering why you used that as an example because there are probably a lot better ones to pick from. With you claiming to have done meta research on me yet you can't see my rayn vote coming from a town thrawn makes me think you went looking into my meta already knowing the outcome of your results.

You said you would focus on them, but I don't see any focus on you.

I did not do intensive meta research. I skimmed your posts, but did not skim rayn's posts. If I missed some huge, obvious interaction that shows that you must be town and rayn believes so, I could back off for now.

There might've been better examples but I'm not going to spend hours poring over your meta. I picked the first example I saw that looked like a real case. I don't see you making any real cases and your excuse is that you're bored. I don't know the point of trying harder if it's clear that you don't really care and are too bored to play. If you think I am scum, please state so instead of lightly insinuating it.

I'd like to know who you want to lynch, if you're not too bored to say something of use.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
November 05 2013 08:54 GMT
#560
I don't get the point of trying to play well and trying to improve when people are going to self-vote and simply state that they don't care enough about the game to contribute. A lot has gone on and it should not be difficult to find at least one person scummier than the others.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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