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On November 05 2013 08:45 hzflank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:On November 05 2013 06:04 ObviousOne wrote:
Umasi is now a person of interest. Meta-mechanics discussion/finger pointing is the core of his contribution. I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch. I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy. Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now.
I remember reading this and was going to say the same thing.
Umasi, this is really bad honestly. Not budging on a vote without even considering actions since the original pressure or re-evaluating your reads constantly is really scummy.
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On November 05 2013 08:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Fuck that, he said I smell. Hang'em.
Heat wave is coming
Sno man gonna melt
Dunked
You talkin' about me?
I really don't want to bother with more useless pressure on me---it's pretty obvious I'm not getting lynched today Cephiro, but I figure I at least should try and ask, though I'm not expecting much.
What gives?
Random question---thrawn, who is scum? A lot of poking/prodding from you but no conclusions.
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On November 05 2013 08:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 08:49 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 08:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hey hzflank, what do you think about sn0's play so far? Disregard the specifics of who said what or who accused who of what, I want you to casually read his filter and describe to me his tone, attitude, etc. When I read him earlier, his tone was very fun. His attitude was casual, dare I say he seemed to be enjoying the game. At times you might think he has a idgaf attitude, but then he makes a few posts and you reseal that he is in fact invested in the current game. This is almost exactly what I've been thinking. Don't all of these things hint of green and not red? How do you reconcile his general townie behavior with the things you think he's done that are scummy?
For the time being, I ignore how he posts and focus on what he posts. He hides behind how he posts, and when he posts more content he will be easier to read.
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On November 05 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 08:59 ObviousOne wrote:
Fuck that, he said I smell. Hang'em.
Heat wave is coming
Sno man gonna melt
Dunked You talkin' about me? I really don't want to bother with more useless pressure on me---it's pretty obvious I'm not getting lynched today Cephiro, but I figure I at least should try and ask, though I'm not expecting much. What gives? Random question---thrawn, who is scum? A lot of poking/prodding from you but no conclusions.
Subtle hint or accidental allusion? You decide.
Just kidding.
Sno man gonna melt. You know, the guy I'm voting for. The one who tried to pressure me, and when it fell flat he fell off the face of the thread. The one who couldn't justify his read in any way whatsoever to me, or accuse me of something that could be refuted.
I'm having too much fun.
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On November 05 2013 09:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm sick of managing shit.
You go right ahead.
Interesting case on Sn0, hzflank. I don't feel particularly good about Sn0 right now but your case doesn't quite do it for me. He has basically specifically absolved himself of all responsibility in the day thus far so you attacking him on thsoe points is just kinda 'meh' with me because he isn't really going to care I imagine. I could lynch him BECAUSE he's being particularly useless but it would probably end up being more akin to a policy lynch than for the reasons you mentioned.
Also I still have to go back and look at your scum newbie because I kinda forgot.
Do you truly consider yourself to have been that clearly "the most townie player in the game"? Your frustration on gumshoes case alone seemed very overboard. I also don't like how you don't even consider the option of you being lynched at all. Keep that up and I wouldn't mind making it happen.
Activity does not time make. It's interesting claims like your recent one which make me a bit vary.
On November 05 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 08:45 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:
I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch.
I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy. Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now. I remember reading this and was going to say the same thing. Umasi, this is really bad honestly. Not budging on a vote without even considering actions since the original pressure or re-evaluating your reads constantly is really scummy.
I find it interesting that you claim that he hasn't re-evaluated his reads. Or does re-evaluation equal to changing ones opinion to you? I often re-evaluate some of my reads and still end up thinking the same, sometimes even more confirmed on my stance on a player. I don't mind Umasi getting pressured at all, but I'd like to see it happen for better reasoning than this. I do agree it'd be nice to hear how Vanescos new posts affected his reads, but as far as I know he hasn't been around to reply to the question yet.
Small things like this combined with how you are trying to enforce a "I'm the towniest player"-status on yourself this early on so hard is what ticks me off. Sure you post a lot, but that's by no means alignment indicative. Looking at your posts from a neutral point of view, I don't honestly see them as pro-town as you claim them to be.
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On November 05 2013 09:23 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm sick of managing shit.
You go right ahead.
Interesting case on Sn0, hzflank. I don't feel particularly good about Sn0 right now but your case doesn't quite do it for me. He has basically specifically absolved himself of all responsibility in the day thus far so you attacking him on thsoe points is just kinda 'meh' with me because he isn't really going to care I imagine. I could lynch him BECAUSE he's being particularly useless but it would probably end up being more akin to a policy lynch than for the reasons you mentioned.
Also I still have to go back and look at your scum newbie because I kinda forgot. Do you truly consider yourself to have been that clearly "the most townie player in the game"? Your frustration on gumshoes case alone seemed very overboard. I also don't like how you don't even consider the option of you being lynched at all. Keep that up and I wouldn't mind making it happen. Activity does not time make. It's interesting claims like your recent one which make me a bit vary. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 08:45 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:
I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch.
I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy. Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now. I remember reading this and was going to say the same thing. Umasi, this is really bad honestly. Not budging on a vote without even considering actions since the original pressure or re-evaluating your reads constantly is really scummy. I find it interesting that you claim that he hasn't re-evaluated his reads. Or does re-evaluation equal to changing ones opinion to you? I often re-evaluate some of my reads and still end up thinking the same, sometimes even more confirmed on my stance on a player. I don't mind Umasi getting pressured at all, but I'd like to see it happen for better reasoning than this. I do agree it'd be nice to hear how Vanescos new posts affected his reads, but as far as I know he hasn't been around to reply to the question yet. Small things like this combined with how you are trying to enforce a "I'm the towniest player"-status on yourself this early on so hard is what ticks me off. Sure you post a lot, but that's by no means alignment indicative. Looking at your posts from a neutral point of view, I don't honestly see them as pro-town as you claim them to be.
Blah blah blah, ' I don't like your posting but I'm still calling you scum for no reason.'
K Ceph.
LOL wait a minute.
You're threatening to lynch me if I keep up my arrogant behaviour, but you're ALREADY VOTING me.
You need to explain what in the actual fuck you're doing right now. No stupid-ass beeg playz.
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On November 05 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random question---thrawn, who is scum? A lot of poking/prodding from you but no conclusions.
not me 
I'll lay out just about everything I'm thinking. Note that I'm gonna do this WITHOUT going back and rereading filters, so what you're getting is whatever I can remember right now.
Poking/prodding is all I've got right now. My only conclusive reads are town reads. In my notes I've got you, OO, Vanesco, hzflank, sn0, ET, Cephiro, and Syl crossed off as the people I'm not worried about, and that list is in order starting with who I'm least concerned with. Note that not everyone in that list is a town read, there is room for nulls or maybe even slightly scummy people who for various reasons I want to give some more time.
The people not on that list are: gumshoe, Umasi, onegu, and rayn.
gumshoe- came in with long posts that I honestly haven't read completely yet. the only thing I can remember about them is that I thought his targets were awful
Umasi- I haven't paid attention to anything he's said after the start of the game, I tuned out while reading his early post about Vanesco and haven't paid him any attention since so I don't really know what that guy's about. I remember reading someone talking about how his opinions on Vanesco haven't accounted for new evidence so that is worrying.
onegu- not a single thing comes to mind
-rayn - I want to fucking lynch this guy because I know he's capable of doing so much more. I'm not talking about quantity of posts.
That's about it. I don't really have "scumreads" yet but I'm confident about my townreads and I have a pretty good idea of who I want to talk to
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On November 05 2013 09:25 WaveofShadow wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2013 09:23 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm sick of managing shit.
You go right ahead.
Interesting case on Sn0, hzflank. I don't feel particularly good about Sn0 right now but your case doesn't quite do it for me. He has basically specifically absolved himself of all responsibility in the day thus far so you attacking him on thsoe points is just kinda 'meh' with me because he isn't really going to care I imagine. I could lynch him BECAUSE he's being particularly useless but it would probably end up being more akin to a policy lynch than for the reasons you mentioned.
Also I still have to go back and look at your scum newbie because I kinda forgot. Do you truly consider yourself to have been that clearly "the most townie player in the game"? Your frustration on gumshoes case alone seemed very overboard. I also don't like how you don't even consider the option of you being lynched at all. Keep that up and I wouldn't mind making it happen. Activity does not time make. It's interesting claims like your recent one which make me a bit vary. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 08:45 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:
I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch.
I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy. Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now. I remember reading this and was going to say the same thing. Umasi, this is really bad honestly. Not budging on a vote without even considering actions since the original pressure or re-evaluating your reads constantly is really scummy. I find it interesting that you claim that he hasn't re-evaluated his reads. Or does re-evaluation equal to changing ones opinion to you? I often re-evaluate some of my reads and still end up thinking the same, sometimes even more confirmed on my stance on a player. I don't mind Umasi getting pressured at all, but I'd like to see it happen for better reasoning than this. I do agree it'd be nice to hear how Vanescos new posts affected his reads, but as far as I know he hasn't been around to reply to the question yet. Small things like this combined with how you are trying to enforce a "I'm the towniest player"-status on yourself this early on so hard is what ticks me off. Sure you post a lot, but that's by no means alignment indicative. Looking at your posts from a neutral point of view, I don't honestly see them as pro-town as you claim them to be. Blah blah blah, ' I don't like your posting but I'm still calling you scum for no reason.' K Ceph. LOL wait a minute. You're threatening to lynch me if I keep up my arrogant behaviour, but you're ALREADY VOTING me. You need to explain what in the actual fuck you're doing right now. No stupid-ass beeg playz.
For no reason? Hardly. Maybe you should read more closely instead of skimming through it without thought.
Especially as for how sure you are of yourself, your two last lines are very confusing. Is it not really more obvious than that?
I'm hardly pointing out some reasons why I'm suspicious of you. You reply with indifference and not caring, as well asking me the weirdest stuff ever instead of trying to comment on my points. Is it because you can't, or do you have a reason for not wanting to, other than "being obvious town and annoyed at people for accusing me?"
I'm simply saying that I have no problem in properly pressuring you if you keep confirming my suspicions at the rate you currently do. You can hardly say I've pressured you to any extent yet, but that's something easily changed. No stupid-ass big plays in this one simple matter.
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Thrawn, can you go into detail on your ET read? What has he done to put you at ease?
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On November 05 2013 09:30 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:25 WaveofShadow wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 05 2013 09:23 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm sick of managing shit.
You go right ahead.
Interesting case on Sn0, hzflank. I don't feel particularly good about Sn0 right now but your case doesn't quite do it for me. He has basically specifically absolved himself of all responsibility in the day thus far so you attacking him on thsoe points is just kinda 'meh' with me because he isn't really going to care I imagine. I could lynch him BECAUSE he's being particularly useless but it would probably end up being more akin to a policy lynch than for the reasons you mentioned.
Also I still have to go back and look at your scum newbie because I kinda forgot. Do you truly consider yourself to have been that clearly "the most townie player in the game"? Your frustration on gumshoes case alone seemed very overboard. I also don't like how you don't even consider the option of you being lynched at all. Keep that up and I wouldn't mind making it happen. Activity does not time make. It's interesting claims like your recent one which make me a bit vary. Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 08:45 hzflank wrote:On November 05 2013 06:28 Umasi wrote:
I have nothing to comment of, I still think vanesco is the best lynch.
I won't discuss townreads at all, because nightkills, and I have no significant scumread other than vanesco, just people who are kinda scummy. Well Vanesco has posted several things since your last post regarding him. How did they affect your read on him? Even if you still think that he is scum, there must be some more detail in there now. I remember reading this and was going to say the same thing. Umasi, this is really bad honestly. Not budging on a vote without even considering actions since the original pressure or re-evaluating your reads constantly is really scummy. I find it interesting that you claim that he hasn't re-evaluated his reads. Or does re-evaluation equal to changing ones opinion to you? I often re-evaluate some of my reads and still end up thinking the same, sometimes even more confirmed on my stance on a player. I don't mind Umasi getting pressured at all, but I'd like to see it happen for better reasoning than this. I do agree it'd be nice to hear how Vanescos new posts affected his reads, but as far as I know he hasn't been around to reply to the question yet. Small things like this combined with how you are trying to enforce a "I'm the towniest player"-status on yourself this early on so hard is what ticks me off. Sure you post a lot, but that's by no means alignment indicative. Looking at your posts from a neutral point of view, I don't honestly see them as pro-town as you claim them to be. Blah blah blah, ' I don't like your posting but I'm still calling you scum for no reason.' K Ceph. LOL wait a minute. You're threatening to lynch me if I keep up my arrogant behaviour, but you're ALREADY VOTING me. You need to explain what in the actual fuck you're doing right now. No stupid-ass beeg playz. For no reason? Hardly. Maybe you should read more closely instead of skimming through it without thought. Especially as for how sure you are of yourself, your two last lines are very confusing. Is it not really more obvious than that? I'm hardly pointing out some reasons why I'm suspicious of you. You reply with indifference and not caring, as well asking me the weirdest stuff ever instead of trying to comment on my points. Is it because you can't, or do you have a reason for not wanting to, other than "being obvious town and annoyed at people for accusing me?" I'm simply saying that I have no problem in properly pressuring you if you keep confirming my suspicions at the rate you currently do. You can hardly say I've pressured you to any extent yet, but that's something easily changed. No stupid-ass big plays in this one simple matter.
Lol so at first I overreact to a little pressure, and now I react to yours with indifference and not caring huh? I guess I can't win huh? Must be scum! PLEASE DON'T LYNCH ME CEPHIRO!!
Anyway onto something that actually matters.
Thrawn:
On November 05 2013 09:30 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Random question---thrawn, who is scum? A lot of poking/prodding from you but no conclusions. not me I'll lay out just about everything I'm thinking. Note that I'm gonna do this WITHOUT going back and rereading filters, so what you're getting is whatever I can remember right now. Poking/prodding is all I've got right now. My only conclusive reads are town reads. In my notes I've got you, OO, Vanesco, hzflank, sn0, ET, Cephiro, and Syl crossed off as the people I'm not worried about, and that list is in order starting with who I'm least concerned with. Note that not everyone in that list is a town read, there is room for nulls or maybe even slightly scummy people who for various reasons I want to give some more time. The people not on that list are: gumshoe, Umasi, onegu, and rayn. gumshoe- came in with long posts that I honestly haven't read completely yet. the only thing I can remember about them is that I thought his targets were awful Umasi- I haven't paid attention to anything he's said after the start of the game, I tuned out while reading his early post about Vanesco and haven't paid him any attention since so I don't really know what that guy's about. I remember reading someone talking about how his opinions on Vanesco haven't accounted for new evidence so that is worrying. onegu- not a single thing comes to mind -rayn - I want to fucking lynch this guy because I know he's capable of doing so much more. I'm not talking about quantity of posts. That's about it. I don't really have "scumreads" yet but I'm confident about my townreads and I have a pretty good idea of who I want to talk to
Your D1 feels pretty similar to mine in this regard; I don't usually have strong scumreads D1 though this game is proving an exception since there are a lot more people jumping out at me (double entendre!) than usual.
You should read gumshoe's posts. I wouldn't mind hearing what you think about him. (I also would actually like him to comment on my defenses of his 'fake-but-not-really' case on me outside of the reactions that others gave him at some point. )
I follow your thought process but I want to make note of something here. I have a bad feeling (and I can't exactly mention why I think this) that Rayn is not going to actively be playing this game, and as such will essentially be passively pushing us to policy lynch him, as some people are basically doing at the moment.
I would also like the mention that whether this is the case or not, I probably won't be voting for him today because I would at least like to give him the benefit of the doubt. I am certainly confident in my ability to find people scummier than him today. Onegu/Sn0 and now maybe Umasi fit the bill for me atm. I have no idea wtf Cephiro is thinking right now but I don't...think...he's scum?
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WoS what do you think of thrawn's "scumreads" or rather the reasoning behind them?
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On November 05 2013 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of thrawn's "scumreads" or rather the reasoning behind them?
He's pretty unapologetic about basically having dick all for most of the day thus far. Doesn't strike me as scummy at the moment, since as you well know it is certainly possible for town not to have strong scumreads on the first day. I do see a marked difference in what I did D1 in ## and what thrawn is doing right now and I will be keeping watch.
Rayn, are you going to be playing this game? May as well tell me now.
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On November 05 2013 09:35 hzflank wrote:
Thrawn, can you go into detail on your ET read? What has he done to put you at ease?
Like I said earlier, he gets town points for tone and null points for content. I don't think any of the specific things he's said are very alignment indicative but he is direct and what I perceive as open with his thoughts.
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rayn what are you about this game? what's the deal?
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On November 05 2013 09:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:35 hzflank wrote:
Thrawn, can you go into detail on your ET read? What has he done to put you at ease? Like I said earlier, he gets town points for tone and null points for content. I don't think any of the specific things he's said are very alignment indicative but he is direct and what I perceive as open with his thoughts.
Sorry, somehow I missed that post where you explained it. Thanks.
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On November 05 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of thrawn's "scumreads" or rather the reasoning behind them? He's pretty unapologetic about basically having dick all for most of the day thus far. Doesn't strike me as scummy at the moment, since as you well know it is certainly possible for town not to have strong scumreads on the first day. I do see a marked difference in what I did D1 in ## and what thrawn is doing right now and I will be keeping watch. Rayn, are you going to be playing this game? May as well tell me now.
I mean two of his reads are "i have not read their posts". And two of them are "they have not done anything". well that's as much reasoning i have given at this point for someone being scum (which is nothing). At least i do not have 4 targets, only one atm.
I will be playing the game, i will tell you who is scum. I don't know yet for sure about who is scum.
thrawn were you serious when you said you don't remember Sylencia playing scum?
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On November 05 2013 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of thrawn's "scumreads" or rather the reasoning behind them? He's pretty unapologetic about basically having dick all for most of the day thus far. Doesn't strike me as scummy at the moment, since as you well know it is certainly possible for town not to have strong scumreads on the first day. I do see a marked difference in what I did D1 in ## and what thrawn is doing right now and I will be keeping watch. Rayn, are you going to be playing this game? May as well tell me now. I mean two of his reads are "i have not read their posts". And two of them are "they have not done anything". well that's as much reasoning i have given at this point for someone being scum (which is nothing). At least i do not have 4 targets, only one atm. I will be playing the game, i will tell you who is scum. I don't know yet for sure about who is scum. thrawn were you serious when you said you don't remember Sylencia playing scum?
so srs
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On November 05 2013 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 05 2013 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what do you think of thrawn's "scumreads" or rather the reasoning behind them? He's pretty unapologetic about basically having dick all for most of the day thus far. Doesn't strike me as scummy at the moment, since as you well know it is certainly possible for town not to have strong scumreads on the first day. I do see a marked difference in what I did D1 in ## and what thrawn is doing right now and I will be keeping watch. Rayn, are you going to be playing this game? May as well tell me now. I mean two of his reads are "i have not read their posts". And two of them are "they have not done anything". well that's as much reasoning i have given at this point for someone being scum (which is nothing). At least i do not have 4 targets, only one atm. I will be playing the game, i will tell you who is scum. I don't know yet for sure about who is scum.thrawn were you serious when you said you don't remember Sylencia playing scum?
Alright good to hear.
Any thoughts on Cephiro atm?
I honestly don't know what to make of his entrance or his play thus far.
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Cephiro looks town to me.
thrawn i find that hard to believe because the last game you played here Sylencia was scum in..
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On November 05 2013 02:28 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2013 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 04 2013 17:56 EchelonTee wrote:On November 04 2013 10:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
I am sooo uncomfortably unfamiliar with this player list.. I think Syl, WoS, and maybe Sn0 are the only people I've played with?
OH lol and rayn ofc Oh Thrawn, can you tell me what you think of Syl since you've played with him before? I don't think I've ever played with mafia syl. As town he's lurky and people always want to lynch him even though they know better. As for this game I'm not worried abotu him atm. WOS: what do you think about the entrances of gumshoe and sn0_man He was mafia in desert with me and marv, that you replaced into.
Guess hes not reading thread either.
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