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My case for OWB:
When I read his filter it just screams to me text book mafia blending in. Day 1 he did not do a lot. Votes for E00e and doesn't give any solid reasons why other than other people saw him as scum and that he has a bad feeling about him. Leaves the vote on him and is gone for the rest of the day.
He also doesn't talk about Poofter at all but calls out Cake for being scum when he was the main person calling out Poofter. Day 2 he doesn't do much besides call me out for lurking and sheeping which he has been doing himself. When asked for other reads he said he was just tunneling on me all day and had nothing else which looks bad since you should always have thoughts on other people if you are town since there are multiple mafia.
Doesn't talk about Poofter again and when asked for an opinion on him says his vote doesn't matter cause everyone already had their minds made up on him, another text book mafia play where you don't take a stance on something.
2 minutes before the day 2 deadline happened, Poofter realized he wasn't going to be able to defend himself anymore so he made an attempt to try to throw us off the case for the other 2 mafia remaining. He said look at the people who are saving OWB. With that he wanted us to think OWB could be town since he called him scum and wanted us to think the people who didn't vote for him scummy. He then says when he flips town look at Cake/Jonny/OWB, I think this was another statement to confuse us to not thinking OWB is scum because he is saying he is suspicious again.
As for OWB's more recent posts at the end of night 2 and start of day 3 he is still tunneling me and not giving reads on other people. He says I haven't tried to push other plays which just isn't true, I tried to push Jonny and Storr at one point in day 2 but after they gave me good responses to my accusations I didn't think they were scum anymore. Main reason why I didn't push for Poofter even though I thought he was scummy all game and said I would vote for him cause I thought OWB was a better lynch at the time since Poofter didn't post anything recently and there was a chance of a modkill which wouldve meant a wasted lynch. Once Poofter tried to defend himself and failed, I revoted for him right away.
I also do not like his day posts just now about the blues. His first post seemed like he was surprised that Jonny didn't flip blue like he was blue sniping. He then made a post saying he wondered who the blue players were, I just don't see the reason for this post unless you were scum and were hoping for someone to admit they were blue. Then makes another post saying he hopes blues make some sort of contribution to the game soon. I just don't see a reason for a blue to come out and say hey I am a cop, unless they are a cop who got 2 reads back that are positive for scum or if they were about to get lynched.I see this as another post as hoping a blue will come out so he will have an easy night kill.
When I read his filter it just screams to me text book mafia blending in. Day 1 he did not do a lot. Votes for E00e and doesn't give any solid reasons why other than other people saw him as scum and that he has a bad feeling about him. Leaves the vote on him and is gone for the rest of the day.
He also doesn't talk about Poofter at all but calls out Cake for being scum when he was the main person calling out Poofter. Day 2 he doesn't do much besides call me out for lurking and sheeping which he has been doing himself. When asked for other reads he said he was just tunneling on me all day and had nothing else which looks bad since you should always have thoughts on other people if you are town since there are multiple mafia.
Doesn't talk about Poofter again and when asked for an opinion on him says his vote doesn't matter cause everyone already had their minds made up on him, another text book mafia play where you don't take a stance on something.
2 minutes before the day 2 deadline happened, Poofter realized he wasn't going to be able to defend himself anymore so he made an attempt to try to throw us off the case for the other 2 mafia remaining. He said look at the people who are saving OWB. With that he wanted us to think OWB could be town since he called him scum and wanted us to think the people who didn't vote for him scummy. He then says when he flips town look at Cake/Jonny/OWB, I think this was another statement to confuse us to not thinking OWB is scum because he is saying he is suspicious again.
As for OWB's more recent posts at the end of night 2 and start of day 3 he is still tunneling me and not giving reads on other people. He says I haven't tried to push other plays which just isn't true, I tried to push Jonny and Storr at one point in day 2 but after they gave me good responses to my accusations I didn't think they were scum anymore. Main reason why I didn't push for Poofter even though I thought he was scummy all game and said I would vote for him cause I thought OWB was a better lynch at the time since Poofter didn't post anything recently and there was a chance of a modkill which wouldve meant a wasted lynch. Once Poofter tried to defend himself and failed, I revoted for him right away.
I also do not like his day posts just now about the blues. His first post seemed like he was surprised that Jonny didn't flip blue like he was blue sniping. He then made a post saying he wondered who the blue players were, I just don't see the reason for this post unless you were scum and were hoping for someone to admit they were blue. Then makes another post saying he hopes blues make some sort of contribution to the game soon. I just don't see a reason for a blue to come out and say hey I am a cop, unless they are a cop who got 2 reads back that are positive for scum or if they were about to get lynched.I see this as another post as hoping a blue will come out so he will have an easy night kill.
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Current thoughts on Odin:
After the drunk posts he started to post just like he did last game. This isn't saying much cause it would be an ok tactic to post like you were town but none of his posts then didn't seem that scummy to me at the time he started posting normally. Also what if the drunk/stress posts were just an easy excuse to pardon his disruption to the game?
Looking at his reads and votes and reasoning for them seem a little off to me. He voted for July very late, his reason was that he just doesn't like his posts and will post his reasons why after the deadline but I don't think he did make that post so it sorta looks like he was just trying to fit in with the common July vote since he was already set to be lynched. His first vote on day 2 was on Jonny, saying he made disruptive posts and tried to deflect. While Jonny was being somewhat disruptive he was still bringing up good points and reads at the time imo, to me his post just seemed his was sorta mad at him for arguing with him d1 and calling him out being scum and almost getting him killed.
His next vote seems even more suspicious to me and not cause it was on me. Before he voted for me he made a post saying that he did not like my post where I said Jonny was town and OWB was scum. He says I am trying to deflect off Jonny and make a train on OWB. His reasons for not liking OWB is scum is that he is not around to defend himself and that I hesitated since I didn't put my vote in the post where I called OWB out and only voted for him when Cake asked if I thought he was scum. I honestly forgot to vote in that post, also don't see how that makes my case for OWB any weaker. Seems to me he was trying to deflect off of OWB and keep the Jonny is scum discussion going.
Then he proceeds to unvote Jonny and vote for me saying he doesn't like my posts. Why unvote for Jonny and then vote for me if he only thought I was deflecting off of Jonny and saying he was town? He never gave a reason why he unvoted Jonny, his last before before he unvoted him was saying he liked him as a Day 2 lynch.
Later on he unvotes me and Votes for poofter(4th vote on Poofter). Says he still doesn't like my posts but can chalk it up to bad town play. Still doesn't say why he doesn't like me besides that I thought I was deflecting off of Jonny and onto OWB. His reason to vote for poofter is that we had to lynch someone today and that he looks best out of the lurkers. He never actually says why he thinks Poofter looks bad other than that he is a lurker.
I think at that point since it was a long long time since Poofter posted anything and everyone was onto him and it was gonna be impossible for him to defend himself with so little time left he just threw him under the bus to make himself look better.
After the drunk posts he started to post just like he did last game. This isn't saying much cause it would be an ok tactic to post like you were town but none of his posts then didn't seem that scummy to me at the time he started posting normally. Also what if the drunk/stress posts were just an easy excuse to pardon his disruption to the game?
Looking at his reads and votes and reasoning for them seem a little off to me. He voted for July very late, his reason was that he just doesn't like his posts and will post his reasons why after the deadline but I don't think he did make that post so it sorta looks like he was just trying to fit in with the common July vote since he was already set to be lynched. His first vote on day 2 was on Jonny, saying he made disruptive posts and tried to deflect. While Jonny was being somewhat disruptive he was still bringing up good points and reads at the time imo, to me his post just seemed his was sorta mad at him for arguing with him d1 and calling him out being scum and almost getting him killed.
His next vote seems even more suspicious to me and not cause it was on me. Before he voted for me he made a post saying that he did not like my post where I said Jonny was town and OWB was scum. He says I am trying to deflect off Jonny and make a train on OWB. His reasons for not liking OWB is scum is that he is not around to defend himself and that I hesitated since I didn't put my vote in the post where I called OWB out and only voted for him when Cake asked if I thought he was scum. I honestly forgot to vote in that post, also don't see how that makes my case for OWB any weaker. Seems to me he was trying to deflect off of OWB and keep the Jonny is scum discussion going.
Then he proceeds to unvote Jonny and vote for me saying he doesn't like my posts. Why unvote for Jonny and then vote for me if he only thought I was deflecting off of Jonny and saying he was town? He never gave a reason why he unvoted Jonny, his last before before he unvoted him was saying he liked him as a Day 2 lynch.
Later on he unvotes me and Votes for poofter(4th vote on Poofter). Says he still doesn't like my posts but can chalk it up to bad town play. Still doesn't say why he doesn't like me besides that I thought I was deflecting off of Jonny and onto OWB. His reason to vote for poofter is that we had to lynch someone today and that he looks best out of the lurkers. He never actually says why he thinks Poofter looks bad other than that he is a lurker.
I think at that point since it was a long long time since Poofter posted anything and everyone was onto him and it was gonna be impossible for him to defend himself with so little time left he just threw him under the bus to make himself look better.
