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cakemanofdoom
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
On November 05 2013 17:58 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Actually I'm pretty sure it's owb/vonthin that can't be a pair why | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
On November 05 2013 17:22 StorrZerg wrote: If you call odin scummy, odin defends NYXNYXNYX http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102¤tpage=52#1034 Also his day 2 preferred lynch. As well as odins push onto Jonny http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433102¤tpage=48#945 Also Odins thoughts on the lurkers (doesn't list tehpoofter) It is quite possible the mafia trio being odin nyx tehpoofter I just don't see OWB not being scum, he has done nothing to contribute to town with his play. I based a lot of my case on Odin off of OWB being scum plus scum killing Jonny for his reads so that one of them is mafia which excludes me and that I don't think you are mafia case of wanting to lynch OWB most of the game and that leaves Odin/Nyx/E00e. I don't think its E00e but I will look more into it. I have to get ready to go to work soon or I would write a case about Nyx and compare it to Odin's case. I get back around 8 pm est and might be able to post during my lunch break/on my phone if things are slow. Also to clarify on the 3 voting scenarios Balla posted. All 3 tell us a lot no matter how they flip. Besides thinking OWB is more scummy than Storr wouldn't it make more sense to vote for him since If it flips mafia it helps prove mine and Storrs innocence. If we vote Storr or if you guys vote for me then It only really clears 1 other person no matter how they flip Vonthin Lynch: If mafia it clears OWB, but doesn't clear Storr since he has always been suspicious of me. If town It makes OWB look even more scummy OWB Lynch: If mafia it helps mine and Storrs case a lot for being town If scum it makes both me and him look a lot worse. Storr Lynch: If mafia it doesn't clear Storr since he hasn't said anything about him. Makes me look really bad. If town then I look innocent and doesn't do anything for OWB It just seems like town has a lot more to gain if we lynch OWB over me or Storr since it 2 people either look scummy or town | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
I said OWB Lynch: If mafia it helps mine and Storrs case a lot for being town If scum it makes both me and him look a lot worse. I meant to say if town and not if scum. Anyways I finished getting ready so I'm leaving now, will be home around 8:20pm est | ||
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E00e
88 Posts
This could mean I was very right about something earlier and Mafia thought I was cop, but did not want to kill me because they thought I might be lynched. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
thoughts on myself/vonthin odin nyxnyxnyx owb | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
First off, Storr has been pushing OWB a lot throughout this game. But more importantly: On day1 when Storr put his first vote on July and left it there throughout the entire day... if Storr was mafia and OWB was mafia, when OWB went afk he would have put his vote on July instead of E00... I'm not completley sold on that analysis, but i'm taking it for now. Reason i'm not sold is tehpoofter's vote was still on E00 as well, maybe bad communication between the 3. Maybe, maybe not. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
why would storr flipping town make you look innocent? Also... please share when Storr has "always been suspicious of you" cause he certainly didn't show it day2... | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
we both have approached things a different way regarding ourselves. He has started to become more against a lynch on myself. I how ever have become ok with a lynch on him? IF we are a mafia team, then its possible that he is trying to save me cause i would be a power role then? maybe godfather cause i called out for a cop to check me. On the other hand, i know i'm town. I find it a bit weird how he is sticking out for me so hard today. I want to be thankful for him sticking up for myself, but yeah... | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
He could be defending you so that it seems like he is a scumteam with you but actually isn't or he could be defending you cause you are a scumteam. You could be attacking him so it seems like it isn't a scumteam, or you could be attacking him so that it looks like it isn't but it is. I am going to unvote you though, because E00 came out saying he was roleblocked, which means my main read on you is now gone. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
If mafia it clears OWB, but doesn't clear Storr since he has always been suspicious of me. I really don't get this... why would it not clear storr because he has always been suspicious of you? If anything, that would clear him... but I don't see that he has "always" been suspicious of you anyways. In reality, if you flip mafia it doesn't really say much of anything about Storr, which *i think* is what you're saying, but the way you say it is so weird... The thing is about scum pairs that there is never any conclusive evidence to support them, so just because one flips red doesn't mean the other will too. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
can people take a serious look at nyxnyxnyx? like day 1 he is cool ok. but day 2, and now day 3? seriously.... he has done absolutely nothing but sheep reads and give 0 reasoning to anything he has said. How is this play not punished for being scummy???? i know some of you are "sick" of me continuing to push on him, but can you fucking blame me? out of all the people to push on me, he clearly has the worst case. also @Balla not quite sure what happened to remove the pressure, what was it? | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
One of the main reasons I voted you so early is that nobody claimed getting roleblocked. Since nobody claimed, I thought mafia didn't use their roleblock for the sole purpose of making me look scummy. The only person who was even entertaining that thought was YOU (StorrZerg). Since E00 claimed, now I'm confident that you weren't trying to pull that play. | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
He was one of the first people to vote Poofter in the game... I don't see him being willing to play that kind of mindgame with town so early in the game, since he made a semi case on him especially. On top of that, he's reading town. Sorry Storr, but just because he's playing not all that great doesn't mean he's scum. I'm playing to win... not to teach townies lessons. What really bugs me though, Storr, is that you say you have a scum read on Vonthin yet you continue to NOT PUSH HIM. Why? I don't get that at all... | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
Umm, this one was actually all nyx. During night2 he brought it up and I agreed that vonthin/OWB cannot be scum together. All because they were pushing each other ridiculously hard during the day. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
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