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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:07 GMT
#1441
I'm gonna vote OWB for now:

##vote Onlywonderboy

The more I think about it the more Vonthin's actions on day2 look pro-town.. Storr? Not so much. OWBs? Hell nah...
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 05 2013 18:08 GMT
#1442
i did think of Vonthin as town in my initial analysis, so i'll go with owb too

##unvote

##Vote: onlywonderboy


inb4 Balla/nyx scum pair
cool beans
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 18:13 GMT
#1443
regarding Vonthin
Maybe we have different opinions on push... but i have pushed him

but regardless if by push you mean a more direct attack or a vote, im confused.
I have someone defending me, and in my eyes for no reason. Why should i be forcing a lynch on one of the few people who think i am town?

If i didn't have such heavy pressure i wouldn't bother with his defense of myself.
Right now i have been playing more for self preservation, so when i am able to put my reads out and scum hunt, it just makes it even harder to push someone defending me. SO to say i haven't been pushing him today, i call bull.




also regarding nyxnyxnyx. I am calling nyxnyxnyx for playing scummy day 2 and 3. He is the definition of sheeping reads and providing nothing to town. And i would not absolve him from that day 1 first vote on tehpoofter. I think it was pretty clear tehpoofter would not have been lynched that day. (had more to write after this but it was more about the voting patterns on day 1 and less about nyx so ill put that in a separate post.


going back to nyxnyxnyx though, day 1 he had different opinions, he voted on several different people. He actually posted content. why can scum play "decent" day 1, and get a free pass the rest of the game.

He imo "saved E00e" from the day 1 lynch. or at least he started the move off.


Not even considering nyxnyxnyx for a lynch, or for possible scum is just giving him a free pass to do nothing. this is just wrong.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 18:16 GMT
#1444
you can take my last case on nyxnyxnyx with a grain of salt now since it looks like he is trying to do something other than tunnel...
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:16 GMT
#1445
Let me try to explain the feeling I have with OWB, it comes from the fact that I've played 2 games with him where he was town and I was mafia (so I was trying my best to exploit his "no-confidence" style, especially game1, not so much game2).

In game1: OWB had no confidence in his reads, he was very defensive because people were calling him out on sheeping, not coming up with anything new, etc.. I got him lynched for it eventually.

In game2: he changed it up, was no longer super defensive and he was thinking out of the box, always thinking about different situations that could be occuring (last game there was a lot more role discussion and what not since there was an SK), he was still inactive Eventually he got the vig shot that saved town from loss. Made some mistakes throughout the game but played very good town if we look back at the game. He seemed to really enjoy playing this game.

In this game: I don't know... he seems to have reverted to game1 tendencies without the no-confidence. He's less active then game2, he's not thinking outside of the box... he's tunnel visioning, which I've never seen OWB do.. he's not as active and seems less invested in the game from a town perspective. I feel like he's NOT having fun. Which, based on his play in game 1, I don't think he would really enjoy the pressure that comes from being scum..

This is more of a feeling read. I'll look for more concrete stuff though...
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 18:18 GMT
#1446
##Vote: onlywonderboy

all ready said he was scummy
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:19 GMT
#1447
Storr, our opinions on nyx differ a lot mainly because I played with nyx before. A lot of stuff that seems scummy to you seems like "classic nyx" to me.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#1448
if owb flips town, does that mean Vonthin is scum?

i know owb flipping town clears Vonthin, but is the reverse true?
cool beans
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 05 2013 18:46 GMT
#1449
ebwop

i know owb flipping scum clears Vonthin, but is the reverse true?
cool beans
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:51 GMT
#1450
I already pointed out how annoying the fact that he didn't share what he thought about poofter at the end of day2 was, but I noticed an extra post that I was missing before. Originally I thought he went afk and came back and saw poofter was going to get lynched so his vote didn't matter anymore, but he posted in between the two posts: here are the 3 posts in question.

On November 04 2013 07:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 06:46 JonnyLaw wrote:
Owb you really should look at poofter. He's scummier to me at this point.

I'd rather stay with him than move onto Von, but if it's an option that will go through I'm okay with that idea.

@storr that's a great point about nyx but he's been getting that pressure all game. Do you think he's playing differently since the start?

Hmm alright then, I'll go back and reread his filter. Von stood out to me more but I won't count out poofter.


Good, he'll look at poofter.

On November 04 2013 09:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
I mean who is all here? This could be important to see if we can even switch the vote at this point.


Oh you're here? Why aren't you sharing what you think of poofter at this point. He's about to get lynched. If you think he's town make a case, if you think he's mafia then vote for him. Doesn't make sense why he's not voting for him at this point, it's pretty clear the vonthin vote is no longer a contender.


On November 04 2013 09:44 onlywonderboy wrote:
I just don't have anything new to say about Von and everyone seems to have their mind made up poof. Poof already has enough votes, I'd switch if he needed one more vote but otherwise there's no real point.


It's still anti-town to not share your opinion on Poofter.... really really annoying play here.

StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#1451
can we vote for 24 hour days?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:53 GMT
#1452
On November 06 2013 03:46 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ebwop

i know owb flipping scum clears Vonthin, but is the reverse true?


No, OWB flipping town would not directly mean Vonthin is mafia. But i'm comfortable saying he is the base of any other mafia pair if owb flips town due to other reasons. Not at all just because vonthin was pushing owb..
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 18:54 GMT
#1453
On November 06 2013 03:52 StorrZerg wrote:
can we vote for 24 hour days?


Why would you want 24 hour days? More time = more chances of making a proper lynch...
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
November 05 2013 19:10 GMT
#1454
On November 06 2013 03:52 StorrZerg wrote:
can we vote for 24 hour days?

no
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 19:11 GMT
#1455
i've scene other games move to 24 hour days just thought i'd ask.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
November 05 2013 19:12 GMT
#1456
Vote Count

StorrZerg (0): nyxnyxnyx, Balla24
onlywonderboy (4): Vonthin, Balla24, nyxnyxnyx, StorrZerg

Not voting (5): onlywonderboy, Obzy, E00e, OdinOfPergo, cakemanofdoom

Currently no one is set to be lynched. With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

This game uses Majority Lynch. Voting is mandatory. Please format your vote properly as such:
##Vote: Marv
Please
##Unvote first when changing your vote.

Day 3 ends in at 01:00 GMT (+00:00).
If there are any errors please let us know.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 19:15 GMT
#1457
On November 06 2013 04:11 StorrZerg wrote:
i've scene other games move to 24 hour days just thought i'd ask.


wow is this a scum slip... "scene"? really? ...................................
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
November 05 2013 19:21 GMT
#1458
On November 06 2013 04:15 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 04:11 StorrZerg wrote:
i've scene other games move to 24 hour days just thought i'd ask.


wow is this a scum slip... "scene"? really? ...................................



?? my bad seen... i don't know what your calling a scum slip
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
November 05 2013 19:21 GMT
#1459
just joking haha
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 05 2013 19:22 GMT
#1460
On November 06 2013 04:21 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 04:15 Balla24 wrote:
On November 06 2013 04:11 StorrZerg wrote:
i've scene other games move to 24 hour days just thought i'd ask.


wow is this a scum slip... "scene"? really? ...................................



?? my bad seen... i don't know what your calling a scum slip


wow is this a scum slip... "your"? really? ...................................
cool beans
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