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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 10:19 GMT
#2127
Unless CR doesn't post.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 10:36 GMT
#2128
On October 21 2013 04:30 Chairman Ray wrote:
I just got unbanned, so I can replace in. Just as a warning, I can only spare like an hour a day for mafia, so if there's someone else that can be a lot more active, they're probably a better choice.

oh boy...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:01 GMT
#2135
Mattchew

I am respecting Storr his claim. I am maybe a bit fast in saying both StorrZerg and Mattchew are scum. But Mattchew is scum for sure. I just have insane problems with Storr thinking Mattchew is town. There are also some other things I don't like about Storr but this case is about Mattchew.

Let's take a look at Mattchew his day 2:

On October 20 2013 06:35 Mattchew wrote:
syllo any thoughts on hopeless

On October 20 2013 07:05 Mattchew wrote:
syllo can we lynch hopeless instead?

On October 20 2013 08:10 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 07:50 syllogism wrote:
On October 20 2013 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
That LA flipped? Was in response to syllo saying he can't know his alignment. I.E. he flipped I know he's town.

I didn't say that, I simply suggested that he couldn't know LA played "very strong" town game unless he knows alignments of every player in the game. It's possible that he thought LA was just very towny and therefore player a strong game, but I find that less likely than the alternative. Still, no point discussing this any further.

true... discuss hopeless with me?


This isn't a case on Hopeless, this is testing the waters. Here is another try, trying to vote Hopeless through marv his dead body:
On October 20 2013 11:54 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:21 LastArgument wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:10 LastArgument wrote:
Just to be completely clear, Hopeless - you don't have any specific scumreads at the moment?

Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point.

Here's my issue with this. And there are two.

Firstly, you've said this as town before:
On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets...

I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking.
I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy.
@wbg voters: dafuq?

You've also said this as town:
On April 23 2013 01:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
so...its a pressure vote on someone you think is less scum than other players....are you sure you know how to play this game?

Your attitude doesn't seem to tally with how you view the game when you play town.
##Vote: Hopeless1der

lets not forget the dead aka the confirmed

Now we have to consider that Mattchew knew about the Housecheck through his "masonbuddy" before the thread knew and that Mattchew decided to look in his own House and found Hopeless most likely scum. I can respect that. The reasons why are far to find, there isn't ANYTHING about hopeless in Mattchew his excellreads from Night 1. But he replied somewhere that his "excellreads" were about finding town and not scum...
But syllo doesn't bite and then Hopeless posts this:
On October 20 2013 12:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
storr town for asking random questions, and pandain's "scumread" on him
matt town for showing storr why he's likely confirmed town. also pandain's scumread
holyflare town for, you know, actually hunting scum and generally making sense.
grack...doesnt seem like scum? his playful attitude hasnt changed since daypost.


On October 20 2013 12:32 Hopeless1der wrote:
...so much for loyalty
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare

By process of elimination

In which he does the same thing that Mattchew should have done when he knew about the Housecheck. Go over the housemembers and post his reads. PoE gave Hopeless1der Holyflare as scum.

This is how Mattchew reacts:
On October 20 2013 12:34 Mattchew wrote:
LOL

##vote Hopeless1der


Mattchew finally found a reason to start a wagon on his fake scumread. Sadly enough Mattchew doesn't understand what Hopeless did was a normal thoughtprocess for a townie with the information about a Housecheck because Mattchew isn't town and didn't have this thoughtprocess.

You want more proof? Look at his reads from night 1: Grack, Storr were both very green for the SAME reasons hopeless says they are green. On top of that Hopeless says that Mattchew is town for x reason. What is so "LOL" about this that Mattchew instantly votes hopeless? They have the same thoughtprocess and Holyflare was looking scummy as well for Mattchew. There is litterally nothing "LOL" about those reads because they are the same as those from Mattchew.

Let's vote the scummiest person in this thread please
##unvote
##vote: Mattchew
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:17 GMT
#2138
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:17 GMT
#2139
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

Damn, new lovers = more chance on a 3p role D:
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:27 GMT
#2145
On October 21 2013 21:24 Cephiro wrote:
EBWOP: To add on the above statement, scum doesn't clearly consider me a threat or a possibility behind some night actions, the mis-lynch on me would've been pushed much harder at this point. So I believe they think either:
1) I am no threat to them.
2) I am a pro-scum role that is not aligned with them.
3) Have planned something for me later.

Also, I am almost 100% certain Ron Weasley is town.

Why?

btw, are you a thread to scum? Or is that a secret?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:30 GMT
#2148
On October 21 2013 21:26 Mattchew wrote:
I also had a case on hopeless, but refrained from posting and then his role has got me completely confused

Yeah, then you should have posted that instead asking syllo 3 times to make it, or using marv his outdated case. That's the lamest defense ever. I had it a case but decided to not post it, so your case is nullified...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:33 GMT
#2150
On October 21 2013 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 21:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?

There was a lot going through the QT after we got a house check and I don't remember Mattchew's vote being out of line with his thought process. I'll say what I said in QT it seems townie of Mattchew to keep wanting to lynch into Hufflepuff when the thread seemed to think he was the most suspicious Hufflepuff.

Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town.

Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread?

Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:43 GMT
#2152
On October 21 2013 21:40 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 21:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:16 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

I'm down. You'll probably be lynched before that though.

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?

There was a lot going through the QT after we got a house check and I don't remember Mattchew's vote being out of line with his thought process. I'll say what I said in QT it seems townie of Mattchew to keep wanting to lynch into Hufflepuff when the thread seemed to think he was the most suspicious Hufflepuff.

Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town.

Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread?

Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT.

Idk. Maybe he wanted to see if Syllo agreed with his read. It was probably based mostly on POE. WHY DO I KEEP GETTING STUCK IN THESE ARGUMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE IM UNSURE OF!

If you want to see if somebody agrees with your read you say give him something to work with.

Also, I hoped discussing the case with you would help us both figuring out Mattchew further. But I'll let you be. Seems like you are not interested in adding your own view on Mattchew. oki.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 12:58 GMT
#2157
Oh god. Mattchew has 4 scumreads.
One has done something townie, three others have done nothing scummy..

Okay Koshi, i believe our vote is in the right place. We can deal with Cephiro later.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:05 GMT
#2162
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:11 GMT
#2165
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

I don't remember asking anything from you. So it was either Koshi or you are lying.
I don't really care at all because you are scum and should be lynched. You have done no scumhunting at all. Now you want to lynch intosome people because of a cop check that might or might not be true.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:12 GMT
#2166
Btw i thought JAT was scum on D1. I do not think so any more and we should not lynch him in any case.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:17 GMT
#2168
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

It was me and I am not begging you to answer. Answer or not.
It's not going to change the world.

It's obvious you want to keep some secrets. So I am not asking twice.

You going to tell me that is scummy?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:26 GMT
#2170
On October 21 2013 22:19 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 22:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 22:08 Cephiro wrote:
On October 21 2013 22:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. MAttchew has none scumreads. Even worse.

-rayn


Last page. I completely avoided your question. (About if I am a threat to scum, and I'm assuming the why was directed at my belief in Ron Weasley being town.)

Why are you not calling me out for it?

It was me and I am not begging you to answer. Answer or not.
It's not going to change the world.

It's obvious you want to keep some secrets. So I am not asking twice.

You going to tell me that is scummy?


Good answer. Certainly not. I am looking forward to talking with you more in the QT if possible. Rayn is too much in a tunnel-mode to get a proper read on.

What QT? Our House? I am there.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 13:57 GMT
#2178
There is a funny dicussion going on in our house QT. Cephiro wanted to talk with Koshi. The first thing he asks is "who do you think is most suspicious in hufflepuffle out of holy/matt/hope".

See Koshi's last posts and you'll find out why is this so funny. I'll keep you updated for more funniness when Cephiro answers me what are his "good reasons" to ask stuff that's just been said in thread.

-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 14:24 GMT
#2187
On October 21 2013 23:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm voting ceph. He's done nothing to indicate that he wishes to win with town. His unwillingness to roleclaim isn't OK by me.
For visibility:
##Vote: Cephiro

Can you confirm that you have an idea about the nightactions without Cephiro being involved?
Also, read on Mattchew please. And comments on my case?
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#2199
On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1.

My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better.

PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something.

Hmm, can you be a bit more specific?

My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow.

Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing.

2NK
2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP
Toad dieing due to 0.5KP
LoneMeow = ???

This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck.
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 14:41 GMT
#2204
On October 21 2013 23:39 Cephiro wrote:
Matt is really scummy.

First, he was pretty useless during day 1. There was no scumhunting.
Second, his N1 reads are townreads instead of scumreads. (Town on Pandain, nothing on ET, nothing on LM...)
During this day there was a case on hopeless by rayko without any reasoning except that there is 1 scum in hufflepuff. Even now matt has provided no reasoning for being suspicious of hopeless, except that it was a case "centered around him asking a lot of questions but not furthering his thought process / reads through them".

And lastly, after this he claimed that the people he wants to lynch are in a guy who has done townie things and 3 nullreads.
(Onegu, JAT, VA, Yam/CR)

It doesn't make any sense at all. He says he want to lynch into those 4 guys, but thinks one is townie, one is afk but has thread snetiment, and 2 he hasn't read yet.

In short: Mattchew isn't doing anything.

*Candy given*


Why are you using my case as your own Cephiro? You ask me about Mattchew in our QT and now you use my case as your own? Are you fucking kidding me? WHY THE FUCK?

You are even mistaken and I made a case on Mattchew not Hopeless...
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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 21 2013 14:43 GMT
#2207
On October 21 2013 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 23:39 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 21 2013 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lonemeow's death is the only thing I can't personally account for. I'm assuming it was a vigshot as discussed in the thread during N1.

My read on mattchew has been town simply because of his actions D1 and how weak they would be from a scum perspective. Jumping between me and storrzerg, then begging ceph to roleclaim to save his life, it looked like things scum wouldn't do. I'm less certain of that now. You and syllo make real arguments for lynching him but I personally don't wish to lynch hufflepuff right now. Technically 1/5 is better than 3/17 but I feel like we can do better.

PS I have a lead on vayne I need to pursue, that guy may be scum or something.

Hmm, can you be a bit more specific?

My take from that is that you did something to a townie and then 2 scummers with 0.5KP killed themselves because of that. Add to that 2 townkills from mafia you are left with only LoneMeow.

Practical that means that Pandain and EchelonTee used their 0.5KP and you punished them for that. But that means that they had to use that on Toad otherwise there is 1 KP missing.

2NK
2 revenge kills on mafia using 0.5KP
Toad dieing due to 0.5KP
LoneMeow = ???

This means that Cephiro didn't do anything antitown yet. So why lynch him? Him not roleclaiming is fine as long as he plays the game and isn't a scummy fuck.

Toad died because ET died Koshi.

Yes but where is the 2 times 0.5KP from Pandain and ET? There should be 3 scumkills. Unless they didn't use their extra 0.5KP but that does not make sense.
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