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On October 05 2013 01:25 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 01:21 Risen wrote: I said I would read over everything and I am, I am not upset about my case being ignored. I am upset about Oats coming in and dropping something like that then leaving, how is this fucking hard to understand. How are both of you being so obtuse But you think marv is scum. So oats is town. So why do you care? No one is confirmed until they flip. You know this, why tare you asking me this?
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I need John Mayer in my life right now.
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Then what is it oh masterful marv, what is it when someone comes in and admits to the world they haven't been reading the thread?
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On October 05 2013 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:So yeah Risen + Show Spoiler +On October 05 2013 00:01 Risen wrote: I think we should be lynching into dirk/oats/marv.
Dirk - Came in swinging to the wrong tune, very quickly changed his tune, and for me has blended right into the game (null).
Oats - this guy is crazy. Absolutely nuts and making it impossible to read him. If his meta is this as town then I imagine as scum he gets called out immediately so why WOULDN'T he play like this? I'm immune to the bullshit thinking of "too crazy to be scum". He's not null, he's scummy to me, but he's not the scummiest.
marv - I never think I'll see the day where I feel marv will be playing against town as town. Of these three I want marv lynched the most. Of all the people I have played mafia with marv is the person I have come to view as the best, and the person I respect the most (I think there's a reason he was chosen as a representative). When he cracked down on me earlier I stepped away from the game (I was busy anyways, but usually I'm on my phone posting) because I thought this guy is an amazing player and he thinks I need to be better. So I thought I would read filters and post a case as soon as I was able (yesterday I was out all day barring a very small window for lunch). I woke up and read filters. I did not like rayn immediately. I went into the filters expecting to continue my case on Clarity, but I remembered how rayn played in GoT. I really hated how rayn seemed sleazy to me just like he seemed sleazy in GoT with me in PM chat, but I didn't want to say that because that's meta (unverifiable meta), I want my cases to stand on their own. So I go through his filter and make my case. Then that case gets shouted down for being too long and impossible to read. Looking back at that now, I see the problem and my cases going forward will not be like that, they will be concise and to the point. I really think my case would have been considered much more if I had posted the last summary alone. Now, for why I think marv i sscum
As scum or town I think marv plays an amazing game, but I also think as scum he is prone to do more crazy things than as town. Maybe that's because I hydra'd with him. I thought marv was town because he was helping me without doing the bullshit this is totally town Risen, so by proxy he was helping town. In my mind you lynch the people who are playing anti-town, and that's it. Day 1 that's usually the person posting largely filler and sheeping and making town reads to buddy people. At the end of the day town will do their best to play for town, and scum will do their best to blend with town or they will do something that will make people think "scum couldn't do this". I do not believe that the town marv I know would try to hobble town that hard. I believe he dislikes BH a lot. I don't think he's lying there, and that's what makes for the best "holy shit I can't believe he did that as scum" plays. I said this in Noir, and I'll say it here. Town players do not make big plays like that. It's an ongoing game so I can't comment fully, but there was one thing I was pretty adamant about in that game that people did not follow. I don't think marv would do this to us as town. Lynch the person who played anti-town and then admitted he played anti-town.
Tomorrow I will be voting to lynch marv. No sloosh in this thread That isn't the day before, and sloosh wasn't not voting rayn.
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Why would sloosh lynch rayn over no lynching, or voting me. Sloosh could have kept his vote on me and claimed scared of last second vote shenans.
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On October 05 2013 02:23 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 02:22 Risen wrote: Why would sloosh lynch rayn over no lynching, or voting me. Sloosh could have kept his vote on me and claimed scared of last second vote shenans. He wouldve gotten himself lynched if that were the case, though. How? He was at 4 votes?
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So I'm relaxing and thinking and I know I said I'm immune to too crazy to be scum, but that's all I can get that I can't explain about marc. Oats is playing so anti town. Like what is this? He's so cocky for no reason. If I want to punch Marc I want to lynch oats, because holy cow what is he doing to help town is all I can think. His objective should be to establish himself as town but he isn't even concerned with it. So why would scum do that, because meta. And now why is he trying so hard to play crazy instead of actually help. I think his partner got lynched and so now his plan is just to troll the entire game so no one will lynch him.
I know sloosh isn't doing anything, but why is that scum him and town oats. To me it reads as oats trying to "meta"and sloosh just... being. He's not anti our pro, he's null. I would really like marv or Oats to be lynched, though. Lynch people who play anti town
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On October 05 2013 04:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 04:22 Risen wrote: So I'm relaxing and thinking and I know I said I'm immune to too crazy to be scum, but that's all I can get that I can't explain about marc. Oats is playing so anti town. Like what is this? He's so cocky for no reason. If I want to punch Marc I want to lynch oats, because holy cow what is he doing to help town is all I can think. His objective should be to establish himself as town but he isn't even concerned with it. So why would scum do that, because meta. And now why is he trying so hard to play crazy instead of actually help. I think his partner got lynched and so now his plan is just to troll the entire game so no one will lynch him.
I know sloosh isn't doing anything, but why is that scum him and town oats. To me it reads as oats trying to "meta"and sloosh just... being. He's not anti our pro, he's null. I would really like marv or Oats to be lynched, though. Lynch people who play anti town but you have to admit that Dirk's case on sloosh is pretty damning right? The trolling could just be because it is SO obvious already? Yes, but I'm running into a problem of "there are too many people I see as scum in this game"
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EBWOP: I mean, I'll be the first one to call out doing nothing as scummy, but more scummy than filler is having actual anti-town stuff in your filter.
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That wasn't a scum list, it was me explaining who was not on rayn out of the three not on rayn.
How about this, how do you not fucking understand what my post was as town? I think we have the best chance of hitting scum on people who were trying to organize a last second push onto me over rayn, or didn't get into rayn. I demonstrated my thought process for you and instead it's "why isn't sloosh on that list". IT WASN'T A SCUM LIST I think we lynch marv or oats here. Oats is proposing we lynch me after sloosh like he knows what slush is going to flip and immediately coming for me? So I'm voting oats, I think we should lynch oats. He misrepresents me at every chance he gets. It isn't logical, and he isn't playing pro town
Let's lynch oats. I don't buy his too crazy. Who's with me
##vote: oatsmaster
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On October 06 2013 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm actually with Oats on this one. Going through your filter I have a hard time finding any comments from you about the guy who was the main lynch candidate all day.
On October 05 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote: You've said your piece? No.
If you think someone is scum you keep trying to convince people until they're convinced, you change your mind, or you die.
You should be a meme. Contradictory Guy Clarity
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EBWOP: And you'd be hard pressed to find me talking about much of anyone Clarity. Singling it out on Sloosh is scummy as fuck. Why are you misrepresenting me?
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On October 06 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 02:53 Risen wrote:On October 06 2013 02:45 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm actually with Oats on this one. Going through your filter I have a hard time finding any comments from you about the guy who was the main lynch candidate all day. On October 05 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote: You've said your piece? No.
If you think someone is scum you keep trying to convince people until they're convinced, you change your mind, or you die. You should be a meme. Contradictory Guy Clarity There is no contradiction here. Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 02:54 Risen wrote: EBWOP: And you'd be hard pressed to find me talking about much of anyone Clarity. Singling it out on Sloosh is scummy as fuck. Why are you misrepresenting me? That's actually a fair point. Yeah you have been kinda useless. Isn't that one of the criteria for you calling oats scum? I can't tell if this is a joke or something just meant to piss me off. You've been on me all game since I wrote my case on you. You just threw my case on rayn away in spite of it being super solid in some places. I'm sorry it was too long, I'm sorry I had a little confirmation bias, but I was right.
So don't put me on the same level as Oats. I DO things, and I'm not useless
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On October 06 2013 03:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:24 Dirkzor wrote: I agree with Risen that Oats is doing some scummy things (and Risen caught where I was going... Clarity clearly didn't). His nightplay is so weird I'm starting to think he is the last scum just trolling around. I mean "What if BH isn't doc?"!? What the...
Also Oats just parroted the thread feeling about who was scum. First the 3 not on rayn lynch. Then Sloosh maybe. Then Sloosh. Risen is town. Then Sloosh and Risen is scum (with sloosh ahead), Then Marv is scum and he want to lynch him over sloosh because "hur hur". Day 2 he vote sloosh.
He have just been trying to push in any which way the thread was going. I would say that in... Golden Sun I think? I was casually following the game towards the end. rayn had figured out the game and presented the solution to town. And it appeared to me that Oats was just totally trolling rayn and I thought that because of this Oats had to be mafia, and I was sure enough about it that I asked Oats on irc to confirm. Except he was town. All the meta defenses.
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I didn't mean nobody, I meant people beyond the people I talk about. Pointing out Sloosh and not pointing out that I haven't talked much about BH or just about anybody I don't have a case on is scummy as shit and just paints me in a bad light misleadingly and I like how you completely dodge that I have done things as opposed to Oats. No, you were wrong, and you won't admit you were wrong
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Ok? And? There's a point here somewhere. Why are you even dragging this out? It's so useless
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On October 05 2013 04:22 Risen wrote: ...I think his partner got lynched and so now his plan is just to troll the entire game so no one will lynch him.
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I would prefer an Oats lynch. My feelings from yesterday to today have not changed.
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On October 06 2013 23:51 Oatsmaster wrote: And its really fucking weird that Risen doesnt want to vote for sloosh today, but was willing to vote for him yesterday. I can't get over this statement. He's holding onto it where marv realized he was wrong. Why is he holding onto it so hard? Why isn't he willing to put in the effort to think? Because he feels he doesn't have to because he's scum
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