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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
September 13 2013 01:17 GMT
#41
On September 12 2013 19:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
I would also nominate slam [for Desert] but I'm pretty sure a 90 day ban on TL is enough.

Otherwise, warnings for:
Hopeless1der cuz he got hiself replaced even though he could have kept playing.
debears cuz I modkilled him for posting his role PM. I don't think he knew that was forbidden, so I edu-catered him already.

kk
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
September 14 2013 22:51 GMT
#42
On September 10 2013 10:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 10:23 Foolishness wrote:
On September 10 2013 02:39 Acrofales wrote:
I don't think we've ever punished a host for making a mistake and I think it would be exceedingly bad practice to start now, especially over something as trivial as ending the game 24 hours early when the chances of town winning were so incredibly tiny.

I keep a track record of all the hosts and any bad mistakes they make. Nobody (recently) has ever done anything that's worth banning them from hosting anyways. Even if I write it down, minor things like this don't mean anything; as you said people make mistakes, including hosts.

Now if you want to do a Bill Murray and change the rules half way through the game and decide the mafia's night actions for them, then we might have some problems.

On September 10 2013 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally we resolve any hosting mistakes with a best of nine Brood War Grudge Match.

This.

I kind of want to hear this story.

On September 10 2013 21:50 Ace wrote:
[image loading]

This pretty much sums it up. Insane mafia games were, as the name suggests, insane. They had a bunch of wacky mechanics and I disagreed with the implementation of one because it was done really poorly. Basically, I hatched a plan to murder like 3 people and win the mini game within the actual game, instead we nearly killed a teammate and accomplished nothing.

Me and LSB yelled at each other, me for him using shitty mechanics, and him for me raging out and leaving the game. We decided to Bo9 BroodWar instead of yelling at eachother.

Somewhat relevant, the two mechanics were mafia mind controller and a town bus driver. I was the mind controller. In that scenario, I tried to mind control the bus driver who we fed steroids to so he could act twice at night. He used one of his actions to bus drive himself. So I went to Mind Control him and control the bus drive locations, but because he bus drove himself I couldn't mind control him. The issue was he had never thought about which action would take precedence, since each one would negate the other. Instead of having an actual resolution he just PM'd us both "PHYSICS FAIL".
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 14 2013 23:32 GMT
#43
On September 15 2013 07:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
The issue was he had never thought about which action would take precedence, since each one would negate the other. Instead of having an actual resolution he just PM'd us both "PHYSICS FAIL".

For the record, this is why GreY and I go through each game we make and have a precise order for which actions have precedence, something that I suggest all hosts do for all games, even if you dont -think- it will matter.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 15 2013 00:36 GMT
#44
On September 15 2013 08:32 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 07:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
The issue was he had never thought about which action would take precedence, since each one would negate the other. Instead of having an actual resolution he just PM'd us both "PHYSICS FAIL".

For the record, this is why GreY and I go through each game we make and have a precise order for which actions have precedence, something that I suggest all hosts do for all games, even if you dont -think- it will matter.

Yup this is exactly what I'm doing for mine.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
September 15 2013 19:43 GMT
#45
On September 15 2013 07:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 10:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 10 2013 10:23 Foolishness wrote:
On September 10 2013 02:39 Acrofales wrote:
I don't think we've ever punished a host for making a mistake and I think it would be exceedingly bad practice to start now, especially over something as trivial as ending the game 24 hours early when the chances of town winning were so incredibly tiny.

I keep a track record of all the hosts and any bad mistakes they make. Nobody (recently) has ever done anything that's worth banning them from hosting anyways. Even if I write it down, minor things like this don't mean anything; as you said people make mistakes, including hosts.

Now if you want to do a Bill Murray and change the rules half way through the game and decide the mafia's night actions for them, then we might have some problems.

On September 10 2013 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
Generally we resolve any hosting mistakes with a best of nine Brood War Grudge Match.

This.

I kind of want to hear this story.

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 21:50 Ace wrote:
[image loading]

This pretty much sums it up. Insane mafia games were, as the name suggests, insane. They had a bunch of wacky mechanics and I disagreed with the implementation of one because it was done really poorly. Basically, I hatched a plan to murder like 3 people and win the mini game within the actual game, instead we nearly killed a teammate and accomplished nothing.

Me and LSB yelled at each other, me for him using shitty mechanics, and him for me raging out and leaving the game. We decided to Bo9 BroodWar instead of yelling at eachother.

Somewhat relevant, the two mechanics were mafia mind controller and a town bus driver. I was the mind controller. In that scenario, I tried to mind control the bus driver who we fed steroids to so he could act twice at night. He used one of his actions to bus drive himself. So I went to Mind Control him and control the bus drive locations, but because he bus drove himself I couldn't mind control him. The issue was he had never thought about which action would take precedence, since each one would negate the other. Instead of having an actual resolution he just PM'd us both "PHYSICS FAIL".


Oh my god reading that thread and all the hype pictures make made me laugh out for real hahahahahahahahaha
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 21:50 GMT
#46
idk i kind of like the "physics fail" resolution. like what would you have said if he had planned out in advance that that would be the result if two actions each took priority over the other?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 15 2013 23:46 GMT
#47
On September 16 2013 06:50 strongandbig wrote:
idk i kind of like the "physics fail" resolution. like what would you have said if he had planned out in advance that that would be the result if two actions each took priority over the other?


haha, me too.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 16 2013 01:24 GMT
#48
On September 16 2013 06:50 strongandbig wrote:
idk i kind of like the "physics fail" resolution. like what would you have said if he had planned out in advance that that would be the result if two actions each took priority over the other?

If you plan out "physics fail", sure. To me that seems like an inelegant solution though. Eventually I'll post my personal priority list, gotta dig it out though.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
September 16 2013 03:31 GMT
#49
Probably should take this out of the banlist discussion, so im going to post my resolution in the misc thread.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2013 22:11 GMT
#50
Bans and Warnings for Golden Sun Mafia:

Requesting a Warning for DarthPunk.
He was replaced out after seeing his role PM as he thought that it was impossible for him to win as a 3rd Party survivor

Requesting a 1-game ban for goodkarma
He requested a temp ban from teamliquid while the game was going on and was replaced

Requesting a Warning for Onegu
He replaced out as well, but his Internet was shut down by a broken Internet cable, which I deem a reasonable excuse for replacing.

Requesting a 1-game ban for Zealos
He got banned from teamliquid during the game and I had to modkill him.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 25 2013 22:12 GMT
#51
All those seem reasonable but if Onegu's internet really broke is it reasonable to warn him for something that was beyond his control. Like, we're warning him and saying what? "Next time, don't have your internet cable break, since that's totally in your control"?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2013 22:14 GMT
#52
Yeah thats true, kind of just went standard punishments pretty much.
Strike Onegu out, not requesting anything in regards to him
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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 25 2013 22:17 GMT
#53
On September 26 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans and Warnings for Golden Sun Mafia:

Requesting a Warning for DarthPunk.
He was replaced out after seeing his role PM as he thought that it was impossible for him to win as a 3rd Party survivor

Requesting a 1-game ban for goodkarma
He requested a temp ban from teamliquid while the game was going on and was replaced

Requesting a Warning for Onegu
He replaced out as well, but his Internet was shut down by a broken Internet cable, which I deem a reasonable excuse for replacing.

Requesting a 1-game ban for Zealos
He got banned from teamliquid during the game and I had to modkill him.


As co-host of Golden Sun Mafia, I agree with most of ShiaoPi's requests. I would though ask for a more severe punishment for DarthPunk. In my opinion, reading the Role PM and deciding to withdraw from playing because you didn't like your Role is an intolerable behaviour and should not be put up with at all. A mere warning seems like nothing and I don't want to encourage other players to do the same. Therefore, I would ask for a 1-game ban.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 25 2013 22:37 GMT
#54
I agree with ange.

Though I do say, a game-ban for getting banned on TL doesn't really make sense for zealos, it's okay for gk though, since he requested it himself.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 25 2013 22:45 GMT
#55
DP probably won't care what bans he receives. He hates us now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2013 22:57 GMT
#56
I think you should be able to control yourself enough on TL.net while playing a game that you do not get banned.
To be honest I don't know for what post Zealos actually got the ban but I think its part of your responsibility as a player to make sure you are not banned from TL during a game. Which in my opinion is not that hard.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#57
It can be, brah.
Although I suspect this person was not involved in your game, but still.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 26 2013 00:03 GMT
#58
On September 26 2013 07:17 Ange777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans and Warnings for Golden Sun Mafia:

Requesting a Warning for DarthPunk.
He was replaced out after seeing his role PM as he thought that it was impossible for him to win as a 3rd Party survivor

Requesting a 1-game ban for goodkarma
He requested a temp ban from teamliquid while the game was going on and was replaced

Requesting a Warning for Onegu
He replaced out as well, but his Internet was shut down by a broken Internet cable, which I deem a reasonable excuse for replacing.

Requesting a 1-game ban for Zealos
He got banned from teamliquid during the game and I had to modkill him.


As co-host of Golden Sun Mafia, I agree with most of ShiaoPi's requests. I would though ask for a more severe punishment for DarthPunk. In my opinion, reading the Role PM and deciding to withdraw from playing because you didn't like your Role is an intolerable behaviour and should not be put up with at all. A mere warning seems like nothing and I don't want to encourage other players to do the same. Therefore, I would ask for a 1-game ban.

Yeah pretty sure DP is done with TL mafia...he can't handle his rage any more it seems.

Ange why do you /out of every game we're about to be in together? I still haven't played even one with you!
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 26 2013 00:52 GMT
#59
On September 26 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:17 Ange777 wrote:
On September 26 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans and Warnings for Golden Sun Mafia:

Requesting a Warning for DarthPunk.
He was replaced out after seeing his role PM as he thought that it was impossible for him to win as a 3rd Party survivor

Requesting a 1-game ban for goodkarma
He requested a temp ban from teamliquid while the game was going on and was replaced

Requesting a Warning for Onegu
He replaced out as well, but his Internet was shut down by a broken Internet cable, which I deem a reasonable excuse for replacing.

Requesting a 1-game ban for Zealos
He got banned from teamliquid during the game and I had to modkill him.


As co-host of Golden Sun Mafia, I agree with most of ShiaoPi's requests. I would though ask for a more severe punishment for DarthPunk. In my opinion, reading the Role PM and deciding to withdraw from playing because you didn't like your Role is an intolerable behaviour and should not be put up with at all. A mere warning seems like nothing and I don't want to encourage other players to do the same. Therefore, I would ask for a 1-game ban.

Yeah pretty sure DP is done with TL mafia...he can't handle his rage any more it seems.

Ange why do you /out of every game we're about to be in together? I still haven't played even one with you!

It's you bro, she told me she doesn't wanna play with you.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
September 26 2013 01:06 GMT
#60
On September 26 2013 09:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 26 2013 07:17 Ange777 wrote:
On September 26 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans and Warnings for Golden Sun Mafia:

Requesting a Warning for DarthPunk.
He was replaced out after seeing his role PM as he thought that it was impossible for him to win as a 3rd Party survivor

Requesting a 1-game ban for goodkarma
He requested a temp ban from teamliquid while the game was going on and was replaced

Requesting a Warning for Onegu
He replaced out as well, but his Internet was shut down by a broken Internet cable, which I deem a reasonable excuse for replacing.

Requesting a 1-game ban for Zealos
He got banned from teamliquid during the game and I had to modkill him.


As co-host of Golden Sun Mafia, I agree with most of ShiaoPi's requests. I would though ask for a more severe punishment for DarthPunk. In my opinion, reading the Role PM and deciding to withdraw from playing because you didn't like your Role is an intolerable behaviour and should not be put up with at all. A mere warning seems like nothing and I don't want to encourage other players to do the same. Therefore, I would ask for a 1-game ban.

Yeah pretty sure DP is done with TL mafia...he can't handle his rage any more it seems.

Ange why do you /out of every game we're about to be in together? I still haven't played even one with you!

It's you bro, she told me she doesn't wanna play with you.

I also heard this
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