EPTmoosey takes the most, mafia did push him on a bit and town fought with him. So idk I just think awarning with a do it again auto 2 games.
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Damdred
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moosey takes the most, mafia did push him on a bit and town fought with him. So idk I just think awarning with a do it again auto 2 games. | ||
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geript
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
On August 04 2015 07:01 LightningStrike wrote: A few things: 1. WonnaPlay had finished his sitout for Newbie Student Mafia XIII 2. Warning for Flexes for failing to vote and not posting in the Night Phase for activity requirement. 3. 1-2 Game Ban for MoosyDoosy for his poor behavior regarding himself and ruXxar and kept on asking me if people who got modkilled get the OBS QT and felt compromised about telling him if they do or not and decided not to answer him there. Just to be clear about this, was MD modkilled at any point during the game, or not? Also, was he posting these questions or was he just PMing you? Was he alive or dead at the time? Did you ask him to stop doing what he was doing at any point? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 04 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote: I think though this is mooseys first offense though and I've never seen him tilt like this before(?). That I hate seeing an true new player banned in a game that was really angry at points because all parties involved so bear a little guilt. If this is correct give him 5 games like in the good old times.  yeah i can actually use that argument. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
2. I was PM'ing him. 3. I was alive while PM'ing him. 4. LightningStrike gave me a warning about threats through PM and asked if I really wanted to be modkilled but that's about it. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:48 KelsierSC wrote: some hosts just need to ban people though. So...you're saying I should be banned because someone has to be banned at some point??? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:50 MoosyDoosy wrote: So...you're saying I should be banned because someone has to be banned at some point??? well they get off on this shit so just let them do whatever and move on. You can't really change their minds. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote: well they get off on this shit so just let them do whatever and move on. You can't really change their minds. I'm not sure what you mean by "get off on this shit". Can you elaborate? | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by "get off on this shit". Can you elaborate? He means that the hosts derive sexual pleasure from issuing bans. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
I'm still not entirely clear why MD was modkilled. Did MD ask to be modkilled or removed from the game for some reason? On August 04 2015 09:54 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by "get off on this shit". Can you elaborate? KSC thinks the host is jerking you around by asking for a ban, doing it for fun rather than for a good reason. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:58 Blazinghand wrote: PMing a host about Obs QT stuff is completely fine and not an issue. I'm still not entirely clear why MD was modkilled. Did MD ask to be modkilled or removed from the game for some reason? I got a warning for threatening ruXxar and I then asked to be modkilled. However, it turned more and more into a strategic modkill as the game went on and Rels/ruXxar became more tunneled and my flip would finally get them out from underground. I think LightningStrike did a good job in this as he delayed my flip until night time even though I was killed during day time to prevent the impact of the "strategic" mod kill. Edit: I asked to be modkilled for the following reasons: 1. I was not having fun playing as Rels/ruXxar absolutely refused to listen to anything. Even when I got less angry and tried to be reasonable were they throwing away my arguments. 2. I felt bad for threatening ruXxar because I shouldn't have stepped that far although he was being very unreasonable. 3. As the game progressed for 8 or so pages with zero progress, I then wished to be modkilled so town would finally go on what I believed to be the right track. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:57 n00bKing wrote: He means that the hosts derive sexual pleasure from issuing bans. No. That's me  On August 04 2015 09:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: 1. I was modkilled during the game. 2. I was PM'ing him. 3. I was alive while PM'ing him. 4. LightningStrike gave me a warning about threats through PM and asked if I really wanted to be modkilled but that's about it. This was not the view point that I received for LS when he asked my opinion on it. But I'll let him comment on things since my info is solely second-hand. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On August 04 2015 09:58 Blazinghand wrote: I'm still not entirely clear why MD was modkilled. I'll give you the perspective of players in the game. Moosy said that he would get himself mod-killed, so that people saying he and I were the Scum team would see that they were wrong, and maybe then they would finally rethink the lynch. Moosy then said he had PM'd the host, requesting to be mod-killed. Moosy was then mod-killed. After the game, the host said that Moosy was mod-killed for "behavior." And cited a post where Moosy had threatened violence against another player. My opinion is that a 1-game ban is probably justified. You're not allowed to try and get yourself mod-killed for strategic purposes. I don't see a need for any harsher penalty than that. Yes, the rules are clear that you can't intentionally get mod-killed for in-game reasons. But it's a Newbie game, and I don't believe he'd ever received a post-game penalty for any prior offenses. Barakos is the player I would be more interested in seeing banned. Moosy broke a rule, but Barakos ruined a game for 12 other players. I wouldn't be hesitant to sign up for another game that had Moosy in it. Seeing the name "Barakos" in a signup list would keep me from playing. Who would want to risk being teamed with him after this? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:06 n00bKing wrote: I'll give you the perspective of players in the game. Moosy said that he would get himself mod-killed, so that people saying he and I were the Scum team would see that they were wrong, and maybe then they would finally rethink the lynch. Moosy then said he had PM'd the host, requesting to be mod-killed. Moosy was then mod-killed. After the game, the host said that Moosy was mod-killed for "behavior." And cited a post where Moosy had threatened violence against another player. My opinion is that a 1-game ban is probably justified. You're not allowed to try and get yourself mod-killed for strategic purposes. I don't see a need for any harsher penalty than that. Yes, the rules are clear that you can't intentionally get mod-killed for in-game reasons. But it's a Newbie game, and I don't believe he'd ever received a post-game penalty for any prior offenses. Barakos is the player I would be more interested in seeing banned. Moosy broke a rule, but Barakos ruined a game for 12 other players. I wouldn't be hesitant to sign up for another game that had Moosy in it. Seeing the name "Barakos" in a signup list would keep me from playing. Who would want to risk being teamed with him after this? Eh. I can show the timestamps of my PM's where I PM'd LightningStrike before I made those posts. Edit: lol ofc you want to be in a game with me. I hard defended you. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25553 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On August 04 2015 10:08 Blazinghand wrote: Getting yourself modkilled for strategic reasons qualifies as a bannable offense in all games. 1 game ban is appropriate. Cool. | ||
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