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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
~GMarshal
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 03:51:56
June 05 2015 03:49 GMT
#2521
My warning for the onegu game was kind of iffy too. I didnt even know i got it. There was voting like every 12 hours because It was a mismash. And I couldnt vote for myself as town mayor or whatever but me and most poeple wanted it to be me so I Held my vote hoping to not vote my competitor and forgot to place a pointless one later. 7 people were modkilled that game like why did me and stutters only get warnings?

This whole thing is 10% of the mafia ban tread lol nerds
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 05:35:08
June 05 2015 04:18 GMT
#2522
On June 05 2015 06:29 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 06:29 Coagulation wrote:
On June 05 2015 06:21 rsoultin wrote:
lol nope i'm just arguing to argue lol ^^ i'm bored


the founding principal of tlmafia


ftfy

PRINCIPLE YOU FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!111!12!2!2!


references self being a grammar nazi in a way that highlights stupidity and hypocrisy yet finds it is inappropriate regardless
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 05 2015 04:20 GMT
#2523
On June 05 2015 12:49 sicklucker wrote:
My warning for the onegu game was kind of iffy too. I didnt even know i got it. There was voting like every 12 hours because It was a mismash. And I couldnt vote for myself as town mayor or whatever but me and most poeple wanted it to be me so I Held my vote hoping to not vote my competitor and forgot to place a pointless one later. 7 people were modkilled that game like why did me and stutters only get warnings?

This whole thing is 10% of the mafia ban tread lol nerds

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial

You see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 04:44:15
June 05 2015 04:43 GMT
#2524
:popcorn:
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 05 2015 05:00 GMT
#2525
On June 05 2015 13:43 wherebugsgo wrote:
:popcorn:

You expect something I cannot see

I know not whence it comes
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
June 05 2015 05:10 GMT
#2526
On June 05 2015 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 05 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 05 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
host wants 3, that's usually what happens :/

i'd say 2, personally, but i'm not important \o/

as a random sidenote...and because lol yay devil's advocate xP

if we could send pms in-game to other players in-game (*cough* i know i've sent one after i was dead, bad me) i'd totally use that to "confirm" myself town as scum lol ><

why not?


I recognize that makes little sense.

My point was a pm is really no different from a forum post, except it's private.

Like sl broke the rules. Done. But is the rule itself really valid? If you're scum and not aware of what you're saying you're just bad lol and if you're not...how do people tell the difference?

I dunnae maybe i'm missing something key here.


Yeah you are missing something here. Yes, the difference between a PM and a forum post is that it's private, but that's a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Also, not sure if you read the game, but sicklucker was town that game and was PMing people (including a coach, who was a town coach) in a way that completely fucked up the game. The scum player conceded in part because he wanted the PM harassment to end.

There are PM games and there are non-PM games, and if you don't see why PMing in a non-PM game is a big deal, play in a PM game and see how it's different. Like, legit so much changes when people are allowed to PM. Even regarldess of that, PMing was obviously not allowed by the rules, the dude was warned, and has generally acted like a total dick to newbies.

Even if SL gets no ban for this, I will be very, very hesitant to let him /in for any newbie game I host.


thats not fucking true lol. He used it as an excuse. If you get offended by a 1 line post why do you even log onto the internet. He should have conceded. If he didnt know that or whatever thats fine. His coach should have told him to concede. Rules are rules but players make the rules and spite lynching people should be a against the rules as well

no
Writer@WriterYamato
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 07:09:08
June 05 2015 06:27 GMT
#2527
On June 05 2015 12:49 sicklucker wrote:
This whole thing is 10% of the mafia ban tread

Last I checked, 5~6 pages out of 126 is 4~5%.
Stop misrepresenting the numbers already.


On June 05 2015 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
If you get offended by a 1 line post why do you even log onto the internet.

You don't seem to understand that this isn't reddit or 4chan or some random shitty forum. TL has rules, TL mafia has rules, and specifically TL mafia newbie games have rules. Those rules exist for good reasons, but you clearly don't care.


On June 05 2015 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
spite lynching people

Being the host, and having perfect information I can categorically state that the fake claim to drive votes onto you on D5 was not driven out of personal spite of any sort. Nor was it out of an intent to damage your self-imagined no-mislynch streak that you seem to care so much about. Just as there was no intent to be BM against you by intentionally prolonging the game.
You happened to be the RB target the previous night, and last scum's last gambit was counterclaim being blocked for the mislynch into fast talking other newbies the next day for the second mislynch required. It's as simple as that.
Cohosts, hosting advisor, and mafia coach can all attest to this.

I think it speaks volumes that you seem to be very hasty to presume yourself to be the target of BM or spite or complaints, or some form of personal attack or other, even when it is not the case. Why such victim mentality?


And as an aside, if you're not obsessed with that selective-memory no-mislynch statistic of yours, why did you keep bringing it up and making a big deal out of it in game? And why is it that as I am reviewing the game and preparing my postmortem, it looks suspiciously like you were at least considering getting strategically replaced or strategically modkilled to avoid being possibly lynched?


In any case, there's nothing left to be said about sicklucker in the context of my game if all we're going to get is cycling through the same bunch of lame excuses and shifting blame elsewhere. If he'd shown some remorse and understood that what he did was impermissible under any circumstances, I might have been willing to reduce the requested punishment, but we're way past that point now. Unless something else new comes up, I think I'm done here. I've got other things to do, other people from the game are waiting on a postmortem as well as end of game flavor that I still owe them. If folks here want to go dredge up and discuss the older game by Onegu where the warning occurred, that's fine with me, but it is not for me to comment about that game.

Ultimately I believe the writing is already on the wall. Since sicklucker obviously doesn't get the message that we are trying to convey through words, we'll just have to convey it through strong action.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 14:51:01
June 05 2015 14:49 GMT
#2528
On June 05 2015 06:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Man I was expecting some rayn shenanigans when this thread sprouted this many unread posts this fast.

Yeah I can't tell if this banlist drama is better or worse than the usual because of how relatively tame it is.

Also did anyone else see this in the Blogs section and think....
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/486876-artanis-drawing
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
June 05 2015 15:19 GMT
#2529
On June 05 2015 12:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 03:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 05 2015 03:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 05 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:
host wants 3, that's usually what happens :/

i'd say 2, personally, but i'm not important \o/

as a random sidenote...and because lol yay devil's advocate xP

if we could send pms in-game to other players in-game (*cough* i know i've sent one after i was dead, bad me) i'd totally use that to "confirm" myself town as scum lol ><

why not?


I recognize that makes little sense.

My point was a pm is really no different from a forum post, except it's private.

Like sl broke the rules. Done. But is the rule itself really valid? If you're scum and not aware of what you're saying you're just bad lol and if you're not...how do people tell the difference?

I dunnae maybe i'm missing something key here.


Yeah you are missing something here. Yes, the difference between a PM and a forum post is that it's private, but that's a HUGE DIFFERENCE. Also, not sure if you read the game, but sicklucker was town that game and was PMing people (including a coach, who was a town coach) in a way that completely fucked up the game. The scum player conceded in part because he wanted the PM harassment to end.

There are PM games and there are non-PM games, and if you don't see why PMing in a non-PM game is a big deal, play in a PM game and see how it's different. Like, legit so much changes when people are allowed to PM. Even regarldess of that, PMing was obviously not allowed by the rules, the dude was warned, and has generally acted like a total dick to newbies.

Even if SL gets no ban for this, I will be very, very hesitant to let him /in for any newbie game I host.


thats not fucking true lol. He used it as an excuse. If you get offended by a 1 line post why do you even log onto the internet. He should have conceded. If he didnt know that or whatever thats fine. His coach should have told him to concede. Rules are rules but players make the rules and spite lynching people should be a against the rules as well

Because I was his coach, I'm going to respond to this specifically.
1. This was a newbie game. Part of the purpose of the game is learning. I recommended against conceding because it's a major learning experience. Sure, boxerfred didn't ask if he should claim anything; he didn't ask specific questions on how he could have played things out. He didn't do a lot of things; but as a newbie game he deserves the ability to gain from experienced opinions on his actions or on what actions to take in the future or what not. Just conceding doesn't help.
2. There's no impetus for mafia to concede in situations that look dire. There's almost always a chance. If he wants to take that chance, then that's his choice.
3. You're not realizing the fact that it's completely possible for boxerfred to be town. It's not unheard of for newbies to do stupid things because they felt it was the right play. Maybe he CC'd you because he thought it was required to lynch mafia!SL. What you did, basically confirms you as town. That's a huge issue.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 18:14:00
June 05 2015 16:08 GMT
#2530
nvm
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 05 2015 16:44 GMT
#2531
boxerfred adding notches in his belt.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
June 06 2015 14:37 GMT
#2532
Woo, banlist drama!

FWIW, I think 2 games is plenty. I don't think it was maliciously trying to ruin the game or anything, and no history of rulebreaking. Yea, I saw the warning, but a warning for failing to vote doesn't feel very relevant. My only reservation is that SL doesn't seem to realize (or care?) that what he did was wrong and is trying to justify it.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
June 06 2015 14:42 GMT
#2533
On June 06 2015 23:37 Keirathi wrote:
Woo, banlist drama!

FWIW, I think 2 games is plenty. I don't think it was maliciously trying to ruin the game or anything, and no history of rulebreaking. Yea, I saw the warning, but a warning for failing to vote doesn't feel very relevant. My only reservation is that SL doesn't seem to realize (or care?) that what he did was wrong and is trying to justify it.

Incorrect. The guy has been modkilled before. Not that it matters really.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 18:33:09
June 06 2015 18:31 GMT
#2534
I was just giving my perspective. Bf you should stand by what you post I would like you more if you bmed me honestly. As long as its not whining about losing
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 07 2015 23:30 GMT
#2535
[M][N] Carnaval do Brasil

I have no necessary banlist actions.
The replacements for the game were for legitimate causes and none of my warnings issued warrant any further action.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 08 2015 00:54 GMT
#2536
can we not use the phrase "BM" to refer to the sicklucker ban??

I had no part of this ban list interaction, for once
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 10 2015 19:16 GMT
#2537
so was i even banned?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 19:19:08
June 10 2015 19:18 GMT
#2538
Yes, you are. In situations like this, where it's clear-cut and GM is being slow, you should probably get a headstart on your sitouts now.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 10 2015 19:24 GMT
#2539
sicklucker will be sitting out Mafia in the Himalayas.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
June 13 2015 07:30 GMT
#2540
Witchcraft Mafia III:

Standard Inactivity Ban for Stutters695 for failure to vote, failure to cast witchcraft votes, and general inactivity, forcing a modkill. I PMed him numerous times and never got responses. I even asked for /confirms pregame and he /confirmed. Really bad form mate. Also, since he has a Warning, this will end up as a 2-game ban.

Warning for WBG for behavior.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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