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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 01 2013 17:32 Alakaslam wrote: Ok. I have something to figure out. Either Raynepelikoneet or Oatsmaster is scum. It is 1:30 I must sleep. But I will say why and then go I am cannon fodder vt. Oats votes me Raynepelikoneet knows I'm town. Which is town more likely to do given the ambiguous target on my back? Paint me town or lead a mislynch on me? Or towncred vs mislynch what is more valuable to scum. See y'all tomorrow. First of all, this is like the 5th VT claim. I don't like it at all. Trying too hard. Slam, you need to explain this oats/rayn dichotomy asap. It feels like a significant contribution is always somehow just around the corner. Secondly, I got the distinct impression from your posts on Day 1 that you found Tutenkhamun suspicious, by your repeated mentions of "rayn is on the right track". Given this, where do you stand on Tuten now? Seems to have just disappeared into the ether? On September 01 2013 19:26 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol since when am I lazy as scum? Ok let me make up a reason for TK to be town that is insightful. Uhhh. TK is town because he has been giving good insight to the thread (QUOTED POST HERE) Yeah he is pushing dudes based on original thinking and like being useful and Caring about who dies. You know, caring about who dies is actually a very good towntell because scum only care that a town gets lynched. Oats, are you really arguing you're not lazier as scum than town? Come on. That's pushing the bounds of credibility here and you know it. On September 01 2013 20:36 Sylencia wrote: I see Oats as more lazy/sheep at the moment. I don't really understand the jump from scum Tutan to town Tutan that much, but if he is scum there's going to be a lot more holes we uncover in the future, since that's pretty sloppy scum play if it is. That's why I'm not really satisfied with him being the primary target of the lynch when we have Alakaslam and the rayn v debears unresolved situation. Rayn will come back tomorrow saying "Sorry I was drunk last night, ignore everything I said", which honestly doesn't help us with his read on him, and Alakaslam: Still on Oats... to the bolded, how many 'holes' do you need to call him scum? sciberbia has pointed out a few already, do you need 10? 20? Do holes = scum? To the underlined, doesn't that much more characterise his scumplay than his townplay? Answers on a postcard please. oh, and yamato, your breakdown of my post from months ago is totes adorbs btw. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: They do not have to waste a shot. If they happen to shoot the person a doctor is protecting, then they can claim vet. The doctor would find that extremely fishy, for starters. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: They do not have to waste a shot. If they happen to shoot the person a doctor is protecting, then they can claim vet. But then do people who are protected also get hit notifications? It is not defined in the op who gets hit notificiations. So, as mafia, you would run the risk of the townsperson you shoot of claiming being shot, a doc knowing they protected correctly, and having two people on your ass? | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ehh.. why can't mafia "breadcrumb" some role and assuming a certain situation happens (like a no-kill in a game where doctor and their target is not informed of a save) claim "yeah dudes, look, i crumbed my role vet i am totes town, now you gotta believe me"?? It's not that hard, and i put zero value in breadcrumbs. I agree with rayn that it's not virtually impossible that debears is lying just because of his breadcrumb. Rayn's theory is plausible. But I agree with rayn that it's not especially likely in this case. On September 02 2013 03:21 debears wrote: @Scribs I'm gonna put you as my strongest town read with the way your posts have been going since I got off. I'm liking your Oats stuff. I will definitely join the cause. I still have questions on the Rayn thing though I need your perspective on. 1) What do you think of his claim without a breadcrumb? 2) What do you think of his vet claim after the already occuring mason claim lie? Aww thanks debears <3 1) I see no reason why he would make this fake-claim as scum. I don't think he was in any danger of ever getting lynched, so why would he put that at risk by calling you out as a liar and starting a veteran showdown? The fact that he has no breadcrumb probably means nothing if it is true that he does in fact never breadcrumb. I assume it's true until somebody tells me it's not. 2) What hapa said about it probably being legit if he is town. The mason claim had a very clear purpose -- to manipulate the lynch. This claim doesn't seem to further his other agenda in any way. It is kinda fishy that we have two veteran claims and they somehow just both happened to be shot by anti-town factions night 1. But there's no actual evidence that either of them is scum and crazier shit has happened at night, so I'm willing to stick to my previous town reads on these two until we have more information. | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
##Vote Oatsmaster Scribs is my senseful other half this game now | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Why are you leaning town on Sylencia? I haven't seen any justification from you in your filter at all. Putting him in the same category as sciberbia in that regard is really surprising. @ Scib Regarding Oats' defense, it actually strikes me as pretty townie. There was a good meta observation made by ObviousOne a while ago, to the effect of "If you can sense Oats' 'madness' in the thread, he's probably town." To this regard, him having this absurd non-sensical 180 is completely up his alley as town. Futhermore, his defense of just calling things bad and not really addressing cases towards him is also pretty normal. Even though he's less active than I'm used to seeing out of him, his defense (on meta) is townie. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:56 debears wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Oatsmaster Scribs is my senseful other half this game now dibbers, how often have you played with Oats? Why is Slam townie to you? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:59 marvellosity wrote: Hapa, we gotta stop meeting like this I think we need to see other people :3 | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:58 marvellosity wrote: dibbers, how often have you played with Oats? Why is Slam townie to you? I think a couple games. When did I say slam was townie? | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On September 02 2013 05:54 debears wrote: But then do people who are protected also get hit notifications? It is not defined in the op who gets hit notificiations. So, as mafia, you would run the risk of the townsperson you shoot of claiming being shot, a doc knowing they protected correctly, and having two people on your ass? As a point of clarification, the OP states that only passively protected roles receive a notification. So a townie could be saved by a doc and not be any the wiser. Also to re-iterate hapa's question from earlier, out of curiosity, were either of your roles dependent on the water level in some way? @marv Do you agree or disagree with what hapa just wrote about Oats and why? Judging from your earlier post you seem to disagree? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
His read change on me makes zero sense. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:06 debears wrote: I think a couple games. When did I say slam was townie? More the lack of attention you've given him today I guess. I asked about Oats, kinda because of what Hapa alluded to just up there. Because the thing is, scib's case is good, traditionally good, but it's Oats. If you don't know what I mean by that it's hard to explain :/ | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:06 sciberbia wrote: As a point of clarification, the OP states that only passively protected roles receive a notification. So a townie could be saved by a doc and not be any the wiser. Also to re-iterate hapa's question from earlier, out of curiosity, were either of your roles dependent on the water level in some way? @marv Do you agree or disagree with what hapa just wrote about Oats and why? Judging from your earlier post you seem to disagree? Nah no change on mine. Where does the op say the hit notification stuff. Couldn't find it -_- | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
The only thing that keeps me on edge about him is his low activity and convenient choice of lynch targets. For example, he's mentioned multiple times suspicon on myself and scib, but has chosen to spend most of his time tunneling various lurkers (FT, Slam, etc). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43188 Posts
I get that as doc/target neither of them get's a notification. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:11 debears wrote: Nah no change on mine. Where does the op say the hit notification stuff. Couldn't find it -_- @debears + Show Spoiler [hosts] + On August 22 2013 06:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:27 Clarity_nl wrote: Active protection would be something like a medic protect. Passive protection would be something like a veteran | ||
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