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debears
United States2516 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
We basically haven't heard from you three today. What do you make of the Rayn/Dibbers stuff? Who are your scum-reads? (As for TK who has his vote on Onegu, I'm more looking for other reads). | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote: More the lack of attention you've given him today I guess. I asked about Oats, kinda because of what Hapa alluded to just up there. Because the thing is, scib's case is good, traditionally good, but it's Oats. If you don't know what I mean by that it's hard to explain :/ I haven't given slam attention because there is nothing new to say on him (Same with all the other dudes who haven't posted shit). Same shit different day. His posting seems similar to other games (just one game that I can't talk about tbh). So, really, only can judge him on hopeless's posting. Is he scummier to me than oats (or raynp earlier)? No. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Probably the biggest difference between them is i have playing experience with oats, not with slam :/ | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Vote Count Onegu (1) Tutankoopa marvellosity (0) debears (0) raynpelikoneet (0) Alakaslam (3) Oatsmaster Sylencia raynpelikoneet Oatsmaster (2) sciberbia debears not voting (6) Onegu yamato77 alakaslam sn0_Man Hapahauli marvellosity Alakaslam is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00) Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote: The problem for me is that slam DOES post, and it's always a nothing post. And those damn repeated VT claims. Do you not find it exceedingly odd how he keeps repeating it? Probably the biggest difference between them is i have playing experience with oats, not with slam :/ This is exactly why I was reallllyyyyyyyy hoping that there would be a vig  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 02 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, i basically think Alakaslam, Tutankoopa, Onegu, Sylencia. What do you make of the Tutan stuff on Onegu? Are you set on that being a bus then? That doesn't make any sense to me at this stage of the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I've read most everything, and I feel like for now Oats is the person I'm interested in most. He just doesn't feel like the town-presence oats I expect. If he's town I should *know* it by now. I'm not even getting close to a town vibe from him and his excuses are shit like "you guys only think i'm scum because I don't have a 10 page filter" which is a terrible excuse. Rayn is wildly full of shit but I've known that since like minutes into D1. It feels anti-town but it did last game too and he flipped town. I still kinda wanna kill him though. I still feel like Onegu is a poor lynch *but* its possible that because he feels like he is stepping up his game what that really means is he is getting some pushes from the scumqt or whatever. He bears watching but I'm not too interested in his lynch yet. Most everybody else has a read ranging from null to town so I don't feel the need to discuss them. FWIW I doubt there is an SK in this setup simply because the points mechanic would be even harder to balance with an SK thrown in. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
On September 02 2013 06:19 Hapahauli wrote: What do you make of the Rayn/Dibbers stuff? I wasn't concerned about debears before the claim, there's nothing off putting about the claim so I don't see a reason to examine it further. I don't know why people are putting any stock in anything rayn claims. Is there evidence beyond reasonable doubt that he's telling the truth this time? I don't think his shennanigans make him mafia, the only way I see rayn as mafia is if Oats is scum. Then there would be a legitimate mafia motivation for Rayn claiming mason. I don't think Oats is scum though, so... Hapa I plan on being in the thread for a long time starting later this evening. I'd rather talk then in live conversation. Did you really not understand my onegu case? I read your questions last night but I didn't know how to respond because I didn't know what to make of your post. I'm also curious as to why you are reading me incorrectly. Rayn, I want to know your reads on me from right before, during, and after my posts about Onegu. I also want to hear from anyone that disagrees with my case, or has a different reason for thinking Onegu is town. | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
Are you not reading the thread or something? I don't know how you could have missed this. rayn is claiming veteran, and that he was shot debears is claiming he is a veteran, and that he was shot and roleblocked On September 01 2013 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: i am a vet. debears claim is shit. he is scum. i was hit. On September 01 2013 08:27 debears wrote: I was both roleblocked and shot. I am a veteran That's why there is speculation on two vets. There is no evidence that rayn is actually a veteran but it just doesn't make a lot of sense for him to lie if he is town. I'd be happy to talk through Onegu with you at some point tonight. What makes you think Oats is town? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 02 2013 09:10 Tutankoopa wrote: Before I try to figure this out, can anyone explain why all the role speculation makes any sense? All the "evidence" I see is debears claiming a roleblock and rayn claiming he was shot. How does that lead to some setup with multiple vets or whatever people are talking about? And why are we giving any weight to rayn's claim? Well it would be a different situation if both players weren't absurdly townie on behavior already. As far as the speculation goes, claiming to get shot as veteran is a really difficult claim to pull off as scum. Both debears and rayn's behavior around their claims seem legitimate and what I'd expect from both if they were telling the truth. Hapa I plan on being in the thread for a long time starting later this evening. I'd rather talk then in live conversation. Did you really not understand my onegu case? I read your questions last night but I didn't know how to respond because I didn't know what to make of your post. I'm also curious as to why you are reading me incorrectly. Awesome. I should be around for the next few hours. In regards to your case - your case basically states that Onegu was vocal about suspicion of a scum-read (Hopeless) then switched off in favor of someone who was being "useless" (FirmTofu). The thing is, Onegu rationalized that switch on his belief that FT was scum, and has stated to the effect several times. What precludes the explanation that Onegu simply voted the strongest of his scum-reads at the time? | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
This goes for anyone, btw. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On September 02 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote: Hapa, do you have anything to say about my post besides to question my weak town read of Syl? This goes for anyone, btw. Not really? There's very little in there that hasn't already been said to some capacity. Except for your stuff on me, which you don't even give a read with =/ | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
On September 02 2013 09:48 yamato77 wrote: Hapa, do you have anything to say about my post besides to question my weak town read of Syl? This goes for anyone, btw. @yamato The only thing in there that i found very interesting was On September 01 2013 22:50 yamato77 wrote: Null: Onegu, Sn0, Slam Probable anti-town: Oats, TK I'll substantiate my reads on the null/anti-town players in short order. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 02 2013 09:54 Hapahauli wrote: Yamato, why are you being so useless this game? Is this a work-related thing? Because I've never seen a town-game from you where you've had such abysmal thread-presence. I really haven't played town in a while, and certainly not with this group of players who I mostly find difficult to read. Generally, it's easy enough for me to get some townreads and go from there, but I have too many question marks and not enough time to really pin them all down. @scib I will give those reads, probably in the morning. I am unfortunately out of time right now. | ||
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