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On August 30 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am actaully interested in hearing who you think is scum Hapa. Right now i have no idea. Hopeless is probably my strongest scum-read at this stage. His push on TK seems very forced, and he seems more interested in piling shit on TK as opposed to questioning him and trying to figure out TK's alignment. This for example... Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 01:49 Hopeless1der wrote:Bearing in mind that I think Tutan is scum, in regards to the questions that TK has ignored from RaynOn August 30 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2013 01:06 Tutankoopa wrote:
Re: Rayn
1) Anyone who claims that I was seriously pushing a lynching with my first post is playing dumb. I don't think hopeless is capable of that logic. He's being ever so serious about his case on a guy's first post of the game and it doesn't feel right.
2) re read what I wrote. You are 100% incorrect about this.
3) you are the one who made it an issue. I've said as little as possible about it and only when asked about by you. 1) But why did you use the exact wording you used in your question to Hopeless? Your answer to me now is nowhere near an answer to the question you asked from Hopeless. It's a completely different thing. 2) Simple question. Why do you post before you have read the whole thread? You never answered me. 3) For real man. Your first post in this game is a direct smurf claim or a scum claim. Do you disagree? 1) He used that wording, and that entire post to draw more attention to the policy and less to why I actually think he's scum. 2) Pretend Oats isn't in that quote at all. Its still a load of wishywashy summary crap. I'm "weird" and me and yamato can't both be scum. [marv, this is what you like? herpderp maybe yam or you scum. nowait Hapa inactive or something hes scum] 3) I'd actually chalk that up to early trolling more than anything else. ...is just shit-flinging. Hopless is in attack-mode and doing little else. I really don't understand the confidence that Hopeless has in his early game TK read, much less confident enough to not ask a single question to TK all game so far and simply push for TK's lynch. This interaction in particular is really worrying for me: Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 01:52 Tutankoopa wrote:Hopeless, look me in the eye and tell me that you think this post... On August 29 2013 08:19 Tutankoopa wrote:
##vote: raynpelikoneet
what's the policy? ...implies a serious intent to lynch. If it doesn't, your entire case against me falls apart. How long are you going to keep pretending like you have a real case? Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 01:58 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 30 2013 01:52 Tutankoopa wrote:Hopeless, look me in the eye and tell me that you think this post... On August 29 2013 08:19 Tutankoopa wrote:
##vote: raynpelikoneet
what's the policy? ...implies a serious intent to lynch. If it doesn't, your entire case against me falls apart. How long are you going to keep pretending like you have a real case? Welp theres my case falling apart guys. He got me. I'll go die of dehydration now. TK comes in with a pretty reasonable point and fairly calm-attitude, and Hopeless (with little provocation) responds with this biting sarcasm and basically ignores the point completely.
My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote. Every time TK tries to respond to me, he says "but i wasnt really going to push him". No shit sherlock (insert sarcastic responses here).
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On August 30 2013 05:52 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:49 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am actaully interested in hearing who you think is scum Hapa. Right now i have no idea. Hopeless is probably my strongest scum-read at this stage. His push on TK seems very forced, and he seems more interested in piling shit on TK as opposed to questioning him and trying to figure out TK's alignment. This for example... On August 30 2013 01:49 Hopeless1der wrote:Bearing in mind that I think Tutan is scum, in regards to the questions that TK has ignored from RaynOn August 30 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2013 01:06 Tutankoopa wrote:
Re: Rayn
1) Anyone who claims that I was seriously pushing a lynching with my first post is playing dumb. I don't think hopeless is capable of that logic. He's being ever so serious about his case on a guy's first post of the game and it doesn't feel right.
2) re read what I wrote. You are 100% incorrect about this.
3) you are the one who made it an issue. I've said as little as possible about it and only when asked about by you. 1) But why did you use the exact wording you used in your question to Hopeless? Your answer to me now is nowhere near an answer to the question you asked from Hopeless. It's a completely different thing. 2) Simple question. Why do you post before you have read the whole thread? You never answered me. 3) For real man. Your first post in this game is a direct smurf claim or a scum claim. Do you disagree? 1) He used that wording, and that entire post to draw more attention to the policy and less to why I actually think he's scum. 2) Pretend Oats isn't in that quote at all. Its still a load of wishywashy summary crap. I'm "weird" and me and yamato can't both be scum. [marv, this is what you like? herpderp maybe yam or you scum. nowait Hapa inactive or something hes scum] 3) I'd actually chalk that up to early trolling more than anything else. ...is just shit-flinging. Hopless is in attack-mode and doing little else. I really don't understand the confidence that Hopeless has in his early game TK read, much less confident enough to not ask a single question to TK all game so far and simply push for TK's lynch. This interaction in particular is really worrying for me: On August 30 2013 01:52 Tutankoopa wrote:Hopeless, look me in the eye and tell me that you think this post... On August 29 2013 08:19 Tutankoopa wrote:
##vote: raynpelikoneet
what's the policy? ...implies a serious intent to lynch. If it doesn't, your entire case against me falls apart. How long are you going to keep pretending like you have a real case? On August 30 2013 01:58 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 30 2013 01:52 Tutankoopa wrote:Hopeless, look me in the eye and tell me that you think this post... On August 29 2013 08:19 Tutankoopa wrote:
##vote: raynpelikoneet
what's the policy? ...implies a serious intent to lynch. If it doesn't, your entire case against me falls apart. How long are you going to keep pretending like you have a real case? Welp theres my case falling apart guys. He got me. I'll go die of dehydration now. TK comes in with a pretty reasonable point and fairly calm-attitude, and Hopeless (with little provocation) responds with this biting sarcasm and basically ignores the point completely. My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote. Every time TK tries to respond to me, he says "but i wasnt really going to push him". No shit sherlock (insert sarcastic responses here).
My issue with your push on TK is that you don't seem at all interested in finding out his allignment. Surely you aren't so sure that he's scum 12 hours into the day that you're just willign to go attack-dog mode on him?
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On August 30 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Hapa, he has been ignoring the point all game long and it has been pointed out multiple times. Why would he do that as mafia? I mean ignore something that obvious a townie said?
Who are you talking about?
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Hopeless why do you think i'm scum? You get more points the less words you use.
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On August 30 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Hapa, he has been ignoring the point all game long and it has been pointed out multiple times. Why would he do that as mafia? I mean ignore something that obvious a townie said? Who are you talking about?
Hopeless.
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On August 30 2013 05:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
My reasons for voting TK do not (nor have they ever) hinged upon the fact that he sheeped yamato's "policy" vote. Every time TK tries to respond to me, he says "but i wasnt really going to push him". No shit sherlock (insert sarcastic responses here).
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On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats.
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On August 30 2013 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Hapa, he has been ignoring the point all game long and it has been pointed out multiple times. Why would he do that as mafia? I mean ignore something that obvious a townie said? Who are you talking about? Hopeless.
Uh... then I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. If you're referring to him "ignoring" TK's defense, I think that's plenty scummy.
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On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats.
You just stopped halfway through your thought process. Does not compute.
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On August 30 2013 06:01 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. You just stopped halfway through your thought process. Does not compute.
Do you think that "stopping halfway through one's thought process" is a 100% damning scum-tell?
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Hopeless I think I'd rather hear about any other scumreads you might have than rehash our argument till enternity.
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On August 30 2013 06:03 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 06:01 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. You just stopped halfway through your thought process. Does not compute. Do you think that "stopping halfway through one's thought process" is a 100% damning scum-tell?
no. His scumreads are (were?) here:
On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted.
Thats a load of garbage imo.
On August 30 2013 05:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Iunno he seems to be wilfully misconstruing your posting and kinda tunnelling some. Plus a general lack of activity.
I don't seriously wish to lynch anybody yet, that stuff starts (for me) in ~20 hrs but I was expecting you to push him a bit more. How about dis:
@Hopeless: I assume you are out there somewhere. Why so tunnelled on the smurf? Got any other thoughts on who might be scummy? I'm bored and the people currently around want to lynch Onegu and Sylencia, whom I think are lynchbait atm. Agree? Disagree?
I have no problem with sylencia. I get the impression that he actually has been reading filters like he says he is. His suspicions amount to little more than lurkers, but its something.
Onegu would probably be lynchbait. Not sure yet. FT has yet to check in with anything meaningful, so for the sake of consolidation I'd consider clearing out the chaff. However, this is plurality so I don't need to worry about him yet.
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Hell, I served up some real fat pitches last page that you ignored hopeless. Hit some back to me.
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DAMMIT ALWAYS 1 SECOND LATE
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Hey all, weird shit going on. A few things before I forget
Hapa - what do you think of debears' comments on the 'scumcity' post from Onegu? Also (and genuine question I'd like answered) how are you feeling in general about this game so far?
rayn, I said to remind me to comment on that post of yours after Tutan came back, so anyways. It was about him mentioning Oats at the start of the post and rescinding it at the end of the post. You seemed to be quite suspicious of that but to me it seems like a natural flow of consciousness. I don't see how that can be seen as anything worse than null, and is probably a towntell.
Hopeless, if you are indeed town then this tunnel is the worst thing in the history of the universe.
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On August 30 2013 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Hapa, he has been ignoring the point all game long and it has been pointed out multiple times. Why would he do that as mafia? I mean ignore something that obvious a townie said? Who are you talking about? Hopeless. Uh... then I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. If you're referring to him "ignoring" TK's defense, I think that's plenty scummy.
What i am saying is do you think ultima!tunnel!Hopeless is mafia and is ignoring an obvious mistake in his case while it has been pointed out for many people and is so obvious it is ridiculous to call someone out from it in the first place? Why would Hopeless as mafia do that and stick to his argument even when multiple people have pointed out the argument is full of nothing?
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you've never heard of mafia clinging on to a terrible case rayn? heh
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On August 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Hey all, weird shit going on. A few things before I forget
Hapa - what do you think of debears' comments on the 'scumcity' post from Onegu? Also (and genuine question I'd like answered) how are you feeling in general about this game so far?
rayn, I said to remind me to comment on that post of yours after Tutan came back, so anyways. It was about him mentioning Oats at the start of the post and rescinding it at the end of the post. You seemed to be quite suspicious of that but to me it seems like a natural flow of consciousness. I don't see how that can be seen as anything worse than null, and is probably a towntell.
Hopeless, if you are indeed town then this tunnel is the worst thing in the history of the universe.
marv, you are the only one to come remotely close to commenting on my actual reasons for voting TK. Hapa has taken the same reason I call TK scum to call TK town. You essentially agree with Hapa. He is currently trying to round-about his way to explaining that to me, but i simply disagree with you two about the implications of changing your mind so suddenly.
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marv i can understand the thought process as i said. I do not understand why people write posts before being fully caught up on thread? that makes zero sense to me because they base their posts on misinformation (or rather lack of all information). I asked Tutankoopa about it and he did not answer me. That's what's suspicious to me regarding the post you and i were talking about.
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On August 30 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
you've never heard of mafia clinging on to a terrible case rayn? heh
Actually no i have not, at least 6 hours into D1 when there is no reason to.
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On August 30 2013 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 30 2013 05:55 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno Hapa, he has been ignoring the point all game long and it has been pointed out multiple times. Why would he do that as mafia? I mean ignore something that obvious a townie said? Who are you talking about? Hopeless. Uh... then I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. If you're referring to him "ignoring" TK's defense, I think that's plenty scummy. What i am saying is do you think ultima!tunnel!Hopeless is mafia and is ignoring an obvious mistake in his case while it has been pointed out for many people and is so obvious it is ridiculous to call someone out from it in the first place? Why would Hopeless as mafia do that and stick to his argument even when multiple people have pointed out the argument is full of nothing?
I don't think he's stuck to his argument at all. It seems to flip back and forth between requiring my opening vote to be serious or not, and I still haven't gotten what I deem an honest answer about if he seriously.... no joking, no irony.... seriously thought that I wanted rayn dead.
Actually, looking through my filter I don't think there's any good evidence that I've ever wanted to lynch rayn, and I think that's why I'm so confused about this crazy tunnel.
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