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On August 30 2013 06:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Hell can anyone comment on my Syl case above? I'm starting to agree with myself more and more :3 I'm stuck in his filter currently, I think I'm being dumb because I'm finding it tremendously difficult to work out how he's hopped around, even with his own explanations I have written down that I think the post you quoted in your case looks worse as a standalone than in context - he was asked specifically to comment on those 3 players, and I can understand not being that decisive when talking about players you were asked to talk about
I can understand why the former post is wishy-washy. It's just the next post that's so strange to me - I can't understand how he gets from point a) to point b).
But yes, he seems very incoherent this game. And in the past, he's usually much more upfront about things (even if lurky)
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@ Hopeless + TK
Where'd you both run off to?
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On August 30 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Hell can anyone comment on my Syl case above? I'm starting to agree with myself more and more :3
Actually. That is a a very good point that you bring up, given that Sn0_man did not even post between those posts you quoted.
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I don't get how/why he keeps tying hopeless/sn0 together, not necessarily alignment-wise, but in the way he looks at them. Am I missing something with that?
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I asked him to talk about other scumreads awhile ago and I'm waiting on that. I could probably keep arguing with him about the exact same few posts for the rest of D1 but I don't think it's helping nor is it good for thread atmosphere.
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On August 30 2013 07:01 marvellosity wrote:
I don't get how/why he keeps tying hopeless/sn0 together, not necessarily alignment-wise, but in the way he looks at them. Am I missing something with that?
No, i brought that up eariler. that's fishy.
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On August 30 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Hopeless + TK
Where'd you both run off to?
Painting my room =\
K question for TK then. Why did you say only one of Yamato/me would be scum?
On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted.
Surely you have more than they're weird/shitting on the thread? More recent scumreads perhaps?
You never actually stated your own preference when asking Hapa about debears:
On August 30 2013 05:29 Tutankoopa wrote:
You're obviously the worst person to ask this but would you have still unvoted debears about now had I not asked you that question?
What are your thoughts on debears atm?
Also, sorry I'm not as forthcoming with my own thoughts at the moment save for my tunnel. I'll reread in a couple hours and go from there.
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The thing with his filter is that i'm mainly left kinda bewildered rather than anything else. I don't even know what to ask him to probe him on the Sn0 read or the sn0/hopeless thing.
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@hapa re sylencia
I was gonna say the same thing marv just said about it being understandable not to have a lot to see about three players that I just out-of-the-blue asked him to give a quick opinion on. That doesn't bother me so much.
I did notice his back-flip on the sn0_man read because he disagreed with me but then later stole my exact argument. I'm a little torn on whether this is more likely a town move or scum move. It would be a puzzling move for scum to so blatantly contradict themselves, but at the same time his explanation of it from a townie perspective is equally puzzling to me.
Overall, I've noted that his posts have a tone of just being generally agreeable and he is just sort of being here in the thread, which I tend to associate with scum. Onegu has the same sort of feel but I get the same gut-town feel that you do -- Onegu feels more genuine to me and feels like he's trying to help.
Sylencia leaning scum I guess. Not as much as you though.
I'm feeling by a good margin that hopeless is the best lynch right now, but I want to give it a few more hours before making a post on him.
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Tutankoopa wanna lynch Sylencia?
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On August 30 2013 07:05 sciberbia wrote:
I did notice his back-flip on the sn0_man read because he disagreed with me but then later stole my exact argument. I'm a little torn on whether this is more likely a town move or scum move. It would be a puzzling move for scum to so blatantly contradict themselves, but at the same time his explanation of it from a townie perspective is equally puzzling to me.
basically this lol
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On August 30 2013 07:04 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Hopeless + TK
Where'd you both run off to? Painting my room =\ K question for TK then. Why did you say only one of Yamato/me would be scum?
That was because of an interaction between you two on page 7. I wouldn't make a connection like this late in the game, but at the time it seemed reasonable enough. Keep in mind how early in the game my post was.
On August 30 2013 07:04 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. Surely you have more than they're weird/shitting on the thread? More recent scumreads perhaps? You never actually stated your own preference when asking Hapa about debears: Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 05:29 Tutankoopa wrote:
You're obviously the worst person to ask this but would you have still unvoted debears about now had I not asked you that question? What are your thoughts on debears atm?
I don't agree with much that he says, but I think he's being honest about it and I appreciate the effort he's put into the game post-drunkenness. I wouldn't say I've made up my mind that he's town, but he's never in the group of people I look at when I go filter-diving.
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On August 30 2013 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tutankoopa wanna lynch Sylencia?
No. I already said earlier that his posts seem innocent enough.
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To clarify, I get the feeling that's he's doing this on his own and is therefore town. It's not the best explanation, but I'm not sure how else to express the "innocent" read.
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On August 30 2013 07:20 Tutankoopa wrote:
To clarify, I get the feeling that's he's doing this on his own and is therefore town. It's not the best explanation, but I'm not sure how else to express the "innocent" read.
Yeah I'm not sure what you mean by this. Scum can definetely "play on their own" and don't necessarily take orders from their scum-buddies.
Does that mean you feel he's not playing with extra information? Is there anything specific you can point to?
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Are we attacking people for dropping contradictions? Yeah it's odd, but not much more than that. It's not even the most glaring of contradictions.
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On August 30 2013 07:23 Tutankoopa wrote:Are we attacking people for dropping contradictions? Yeah it's odd, but not much more than that. It's not even the most glaring of contradictions.
Contradictions aren't always scummy, but I think this one is. I really can't map out a town thought-process in what he did. It seems like he forgot he defended Sn0, then attacked him instead when pressed for reads.
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Yeah, I guess so. I'm not so sure about it now so I'd rather let him defend himself.
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TK, what do you make of Hopeless's tunnel on you. You've been the victim of it so far, but I'm somewhat surprised you haven't commented on your thoughts of his allignment yet.
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