Because I'm listening to Hapa. Like I've said before in this very game, it's PROBABLY the case that Rayn is town.

I would also feel like a bass if Marv is mafia and I called him out D1.

EBWOP feel like a baws*

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 05 2013 11:50 GMT

#2082

Also wouldn't mind an Onegu lynch

He maf, too

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

September 05 2013 11:55 GMT

#2083

On September 05 2013 20:42 thrawn2112 wrote:

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It's time to start talking about who we're gonna lynch.

I am ok with a lynch on syl or sn0 now, I guess marv to but when I look at his filter I dont see anything that screams he is scum. I believe we are in mylo btw.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

September 05 2013 12:01 GMT

#2084

On September 05 2013 20:50 yamato77 wrote:
Also wouldn't mind an Onegu lynch

He maf, too

And that is because? Please dont just say how I voted either. And on your earlier post if you want to call the first reason I voted for FT bad that is fine, but when you say the unvote and the second vote are bullshit that is just plain wrong, the unvote was because he was going to get modkilled like hapa said and the second vote was because he came back to the thread droppee his vote on someone and did zero analysis and wasnt going to get modkillee, I even said if he came back to not get modkilled my vote was going right back on him.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:10 GMT

#2085

On September 05 2013 20:50 yamato77 wrote:
Also wouldn't mind an Onegu lynch

He maf, too

Could you now give the exact reasoningwhy you go from "Sno mafia, i make a exact same case than Onegu does on him" to "Onegu is mafia and Sno is town"?

I could somehow see the "okay i was wrong about Sno" thinking, but i can't see how that suddenly makes Onegu scum? After all he did have the exact same thought process than you did about Sno on N2.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:13 GMT

#2086

On September 05 2013 20:23 thrawn2112 wrote:

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About the stance switching after N2? I don't think it's scummy, but yamato needs to answer some of hapa's questions first before I really care to talk about it. I know that's what Hapa was talking about, you'll have to remind me if you were bringing up anything different. I've given a few reasons why I think yamato is town. They are in this filter and it's not that long.

(1): If you plan on lynching Syl you need to read his past games first. You say he's accusing people without proper reasoning. And this is something only mafia do? I'm going to need to be convinced about Syl.

(2): You're calling me town now? Was there any exact moment when you changed your mind about this?

(1): No i do not. I do no know how he plays as scum. If you are going to convince me he is town please feel free to do so. I do not see how his play makes sense from town!pov. Anyways i want to lynch marv today. That's something to be discussed tomorrow.

(2): Your observations & conclusions on N2-D3. They make sense to me from towm!pov.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:16 GMT

#2087

yamato i would also like you to explain this:

I suppose I feel better about his lynch than just about anyone else. I have my misgivings about trusting Rayn, but I suppose that will always be the case with someone who plays mafia better than they do town.

Can you give some reasoning why do you think this?
Can you point out any town game of mine where i have not found scum at last on N2 and have been alive after that?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:28 GMT

#2088

And yamato no, i did not flip my read on you because of "as I question my assumptions about his ability to emulate this sort of play as mafia. I doubted it before, but do I necessarily want to risk losing a game to him on the assumption that he can't reliably fake being a fucking nutjob as scum".

I did flip my read on you because you completely flipped your reads on all of your town and scum reads with no reasoning given!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:32 GMT

#2089

Hapahauli: This is what i was talking about earlier in scum trying to discredit me. See what yamato is doing? I doubt he can give me a resonable answer to this:

On September 05 2013 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i would also like you to explain this:

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Can you give some reasoning why do you think this?
Can you point out any town game of mine where i have not found scum at last on N2 and have been alive after that?

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 05 2013 12:34 GMT

#2090

I'm not going to indulge your need to validate your own ability.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:37 GMT

#2091

On September 05 2013 21:34 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not going to indulge your need to validate your own ability.

It's not that. You might be right or you might be wrong. I want you to explain where do you base your statement to figure out if it makes sense or are you just saying stuff for sake of saying something.

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 05 2013 12:40 GMT

#2092

I base my statement off personal experience with you, Rayn.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:44 GMT

#2093

I do not know how that explains anything?
In 4 Persona scum QT you said "you can't mislynch rayn". This statement in itself contradicts what you say here. The first thing for town player is to not get lynched. If you never get lynched and everyone in town plays so that they do not get lynched mafia always loses. So your statement has to do something with me finding scum, and i want to know where you base your statement on because i do not see it.

Sylencia

Australia1057 Posts

September 05 2013 13:02 GMT

#2094

Alright, posting as I catch up again:

Most likely LYLO, so claim time:

I'm Conditional Lynchproof. Only works while water level is 750+, but if I was to be lynched the water level rises by 100 instead (and the next highest dies still). Crumbed it last night because that's when it became active (in the case of vig shots), but looks like no one caught on to it.

On September 05 2013 00:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
My gut says sylencia is another real candidate, at least in part because of how smoothly the lynch slid off of him D1 when its clear that the only 2 lynch candidates D1 that could possibly be scum were thrawn and him.

Assume the case that I'm scum - that would mean that my scum buddies would had to have bailed me out there. Who are they from what you can see and how did they stop my lynch. It would be impossible for me to have influenced it so if there's no answer to this question, seems to me like you were stretching for a case against me.

I'm happy to vote for sn0 based on the cases presented over the course of the night and today (thanks onegu, yamato, thrawn). However:

On September 05 2013 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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This is a bad post. marvellosoity has not even tried to read Tutankoopa all game. He just decided he is town based on his couple of good posts at the start of the game (which he can't do in the first place as he didn't know who the guy was). Suddenly he decides that "thrawn is town because his posting seems better than thrawn's posting as scum". This is wrong because:
1) When people Smurf they usually play at least a bit differently than usually.
2) marv has not read Tutan's post closely all game, which is very clear just by reading the thread and knowing him. If he does not find someone suspicious he does not to care to read their posts and talk about them.

marv has not tried to get a good read on Tutankoopa/thrawn all game. It makes zero sense when thrawn was smurfing, and it makes zero sense after that.

Rayn's case though, is next level reading and it's something where if you read it in the eyes of scum marv, you wouldn't ever really be able to see that kind of hole because you don't consider that sort of analysis on that post.

##Vote marvellosity

I'm around for a couple of hours if anyone is here for questions.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:05 GMT

#2095

wtf is this all "conditional blues"?