On September 09 2013 17:17 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm afraid I'll just be useless and get mislynched right away in a normal game so I think I'll obs for a while first.

I didn't get to use the coaches anywhere as much as I should have in my newbies, I really should have asked for more coaching in the first game. 2 scum games out of 4 newbies sucked given how much I dislike playing scum.

Just play man. Don't worry about it and play.

If you have time just /in on every game and play your best. As long as you make 10-1000 posts a day nobody is going to give you shit.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 10:05 GMT

#1036

Bereft...
He would have probably docced his buddy Blurry. + voting me because he thought I was Lord Velocity.

Not a great game :D (on crucial moments)

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 10:08 GMT

#1037

I think that in future newbie games people should be encouraged to post at least 15 times on Day 1. Even 15 1 liners is going to help newbie games become more enjoyable. I have replaced in this game and the previous newbie game and both had serious problems with activity on Day 1.

Maybe it is a bit unfair for the newbie scummers, or maybe it will be in their favor because town will start to eat each other.

PS: I know this is a stupid extra rule, but it might help activity on Day 1.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 13:09 GMT

#1046

On September 09 2013 21:45 Holyflare wrote:
But koshi sorry if i said some mean things, was just incredibly annoyed at wasting my time for a game to end in modkills :/ it also confused me how you wrote that you didn't want to focus on a wagon as it had "90% of people on it" but then you straight up voted umasi after no reason posts at all, coupled with how hard you were pushing bereft it looked scummy as hell, to me at least, but i didn't have much time to read things though which i usually do in a game because you got replaced so late

Also all of you who were talking about being roleblocked you talk as if only scum can do the roleblocking? If there is a jailkeeper and he blocks a guy that has really said nothing the entire day 1 there is nothing you can discern from that surely as he has a 1/4 ish chance of hitting scum that night? If you were scum that got roleblocked the nightkill still goes through and there's nothing stopping you from saying that you got roleblocked in that case?

Yeah np m8. I was mad as well and I only spent a little time on this game. Modkills were really silly because I think even after my lynch town was in a good spot if we had a vigi, cop and doc still alive.

I am pretty confusing to play with. I was a bit too tunnelish on betreft, even though a part of my tunnel was played to gain reactions. I should have hammered more on the RB thing and grilled Umasi more because he couldn't answer me properly on one of the main events this game (LV vs betreft).

Next time we catch them scummers together. I am pretty sure we will meet again :D.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 13:11 GMT

#1047

I was mad yesterday and couldn't even tell you why I was annoyed and went full ad hominem as well. That's how bad I am at explaining myself :D. I apologize as well and next time we roll town/scum together and make others pay!

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 13:12 GMT

#1049

I am pretty fucked next time I roll anti-town.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 13:13 GMT

#1050

Got to keep that 100% winrate as scum or 3rd party though O.o
I will need a good team. :D

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 09 2013 17:47 GMT

#1056

On September 10 2013 00:58 infii wrote:

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The sticked newbie mafia guide praises quality of posts over quantity, that's why I mostly wrote huge posts. Do you think I should've stayed with the thread more conistently but with less content?

I really had problems with reading and formulating my last big analysis. I spent like 10h of work on that one. Any hints on how to improve efficiency on analysis?

Well, I am only playing this game for 2 months now. Just looked up my first game in the mafia database. So don't take my words as divine gospel.

My advice is to find a playstyle that you enjoy playing with AND is efficient for you to WIN ALL GAMES.
Do you enjoy making a few big posts a day where you spent hours working on but that very clearly represent your thought process? Please do that. If this is your way of playing the game and you feel like you are the most efficient playing this style then nobody should tell you to do otherwise. The best town people on TL play like that, they make sure town atmosphere is good and then hide a bit in the shadow, constantly point town in the right direction and then BAM they nail the scumteam or at least have done 80% of the work :D. I would love to be able to play like that but...

For me that simply doesn't work well. I can't just look at filters and then make big post that is on the money. I need to play by some rules, ex. from this game: RB target is most likely town. Or by interaction, like Umasi not replying to me about a big event in the game (LV vs bereft). So I end up thinking around 5 secs on what I am going to post and then post it. I also am around 16 hours reading the thread so I can actively chat with my reads when they enter the thread. So I have a shitton of post that is seriously lacking content and logic.
I realize that the way I play is confusing for a lot people, and Holyflare was shocked by it and thought I was scum. If I had 48 hours in this thread my confusing way off playing would have been seen as my playstyle and as long as that playstyle is consistent and clearly motivated by my posting I shouldn't get lynched easily as town. Previous 2 games people called me town 48 hours into the game, even though I was 100% wrong on my 3 reads on Day 1 and I once ended up lynching a cop... I just try to be as honest as possible and then it is up to others to decide that I am being deceiving them or I am just being honest and bad ;D. One day I might be honest and nailing scum. :D
Just like this game. I was horrible wrong about bereft and killerdog, but I was in the right area about others. After my lynch people like killerdog knew who was scum apparently. Would that have been the same when myrz would have been unanimously lynched? In my short passage I like to think that if there wasn't a modkill on our vigi and and another townie that scum had to take a risk and showed themselves, so my reads were shitty, my play was confusing but in the end there was some result. Maybe that was 100% luck though :D.

tldr: Find your own playstyle that works for you, others have to adapt to you. But remember that each game you have to go for a win. 100% go for the win in the game you are playing. Do it by being obvious town and trying to create (good and bad) content or do it by hiding more in the shadow and nail scum. It's up to you.