EPTOn September 05 2013 08:43 Umasi wrote:
Voting vel is dumb, do not do it
Voting vel is dumb, do not do it
How so?
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Chairman Ray
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Lord Velocity
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killerdog
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On September 05 2013 08:43 Umasi wrote: Voting vel is dumb, do not do it What reason is there not to vote for him. He just broke one of the rules of the game itself, and his excuse for having done so doesn't really make sense. I'm not saying "lynch velocity", I'm just saying that that was shady as hell, and I'm gonna leave my vote on him until this gets sorted out. In your own words On September 04 2013 14:23 Umasi wrote: I normally keep the person I think is the scummiest as my vote target, but since there are quite a few people I'm leery of, it rests on no one for now. | ||
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Lord Velocity
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killerdog
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On September 05 2013 09:01 Lord Velocity wrote: I'm so so so so so Sorry people. I said that asking for reads wouldn't be scummy really unless you were trying to bandwagon on their reads, which could subsequently be scummy and realized how dumb I sounded and got embarassed, and the keyboard thing was because I dropped my laptop and had to fix my board itself because it has thin keys. And I was unaware of the no editing rule, I must have missed it. But voting for me(Killer and Chairman) is not the smartest thing. and seeing as you two hopped on it right away seeing an easy lynch but nobody else voted. And I don't even know what QT means, and I fled for an hour or so because I wanted to eat pizza with my sister who is moving out for college. I'm terribly sorry if it was suspicious and I myself have become suspicious of Killer and Chairman in the process. Lynches don't work like that, it's not like you get instant lynched if enough people vote for you. The soonest any of these votes actually mean anything is in 22 hours, when the first day ends. At that time whoever has the most votes gets lynched, or if most people voted to sleep then no-one dies. Even if everyone else voted for you now, nothing would happen until tomorrow (at least as far as my understanding of the rules goes.) So going for an "easy" lynch by bandwagoning votes before someone can respond isn't even a thing. QT is quicktopic, what the mafia use to communicate with each other. All our votes mean is that we think you're suspicious, and this is how we indicate that you're being suspicious. Just like how Umasi voted for holyflare earlier. First you don't know the no edit rule, and then you assume we're trying to "speed lynch" you or something which isn't even possible. I think you should re-read the rules. | ||
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Chairman Ray
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Lord Velocity
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Lord Velocity
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killerdog
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On September 05 2013 06:04 Lord Velocity wrote: So I think Killerdog is safe to say town because of his willingness to give reads To On September 05 2013 09:01 Lord Velocity wrote: I myself have become suspicious of Killer and Chairman in the process. Based solely off the fact that we think it's suspicious that he edited a post is quite dramatic. Anyway, I'm going to sleep now. If myrzeth or pharcyd3 shows up, don't let them get away with a "sorry" and a few regurgitated reads. Also, I'm leaving my vote on Velocity, not because I want to kill him immediately, but because I find the fact that he gets suspicious of both me and ray because we thought editing was suspicious rather far fetched. (If nothing else it would be rather strange mafia play to try and bandwagon on someone like that day 1) Please don't all tunnel on velocity though, we're into the last 24 hours of day 1 and there are people who haven't spoken, or said basically anything. I'm not sure if we get to see what the post was pre-edit or not, (I asked the mod and he said something about dealing with it tomorrow) but until that happens (if it does) there's not much gained from discussing it. I liked holyflares post, and it seems like a good starting point. Also someone who I might add to the list is bereft, he disagreed with holyflare a for a few posts really early on, then disappeared. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 05 2013 09:28 Lord Velocity wrote: I just think it was a rookie mistake tbh I can't really say believe me, it's up to you It could be a rookie mistake. Umasi didn't want to vote you, so he probably thinks you are safe. Do you think Umasi is town or mafia? | ||
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Lord Velocity
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killerdog
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On September 05 2013 09:28 Lord Velocity wrote: I just think it was a rookie mistake tbh I can't really say believe me, it's up to you I agree that that's a perfectly plausible excuse, and I'm not calling for you to be lynched. I'm just saying that the timing was really bad given that you were just starting to get your act together, and on top of that I don't like your immediate counter-claim on me and chairman ray. There are several people who have either not posted, or not posted anything of worth, and before your edit you were making a few decent posts, I'm not blindly forgetting that, and unless everyone else in the game suddenly starts playing really good town overnight, the chances of you getting lynched based off the edit aren't very high at all. I'm just leaving the vote on you mainly because you've had two separate incidents where you've instinctively counter-claimed scum on someone. We'll see what the mod says tomorrow and whether any of the people yet to speak up/being called out respond adequately and start making actual decisions on what to vote for after that. Just keep contributing like you were earlier. | ||
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Lord Velocity
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Chairman Ray
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Lord Velocity
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Umasi
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On September 05 2013 07:35 Lord Velocity wrote: Nvm. This post was irrelevant, let me fix my keyboard brb in a few hours the crime: edits and then asks for a few hours On September 05 2013 09:01 Lord Velocity wrote: I'm so so so so so Sorry people. I said that asking for reads wouldn't be scummy really unless you were trying to bandwagon on their reads, which could subsequently be scummy and realized how dumb I sounded and got embarassed, and the keyboard thing was because I dropped my laptop and had to fix my board itself because it has thin keys. And I was unaware of the no editing rule, I must have missed it. But voting for me(Killer and Chairman) is not the smartest thing. and seeing as you two hopped on it right away seeing an easy lynch but nobody else voted. And I don't even know what QT means, and I fled for an hour or so because I wanted to eat pizza with my sister who is moving out for college. I'm terribly sorry if it was suspicious and I myself have become suspicious of Killer and Chairman in the process. The return, excuse, and fuck up. He returns, apologizes, and gives his reason.The issue? He said he'd brb in a FEW hours, and he was only gone for one and a HALF. SOMEONES IN DEEP SHIT NOW ##VOTE LORD VELOCITY That was a joke btw, I'm not actually voting velocity. I think it was a normal fuckup that town or scum could make, he obviously legitimately forgot the rules, and him posting like that is not scum motivated, obviously not town motivated, so it shouldn't be why you vote him. That said, if you have a reason for voting him that is based on something other than him accidentally posting, feel free! But killer/ray, it felt like you both voted him only because of that. Holyflare, thank fucking god you finally posted something. This makes you significantly less scummy. As is, I gut lean towards heavenz, but I think both infii and heavenz are reasonable lynch choices. The third person I am considering is Pharcyd, because he points out the obvious mistake heavenz made and then NOTHING ELSE, but he falls under the lurking category atm. He and heavenz aren't scum together, probably. I don't mind ray and vel being around since they're active, I want bereft and blurry to come back since they had a single stint of activity, but they're not who I'd like to lynch. out of heavenz, infii, and phar, heavenz is the one I want cleared up first. ##VOTE HEAVENZ | ||
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Lord Velocity
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DarthPunk
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Lord Velocity (2) - killerdog, Chairman Ray HEAVENZ (1) - Umasi Holyflare (0) - Not Voting: Everyone Else | ||
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
On September 04 2013 15:26 heavenz wrote: Umasi, is very aggressive, which is a townlike nature, but beeing aggressive on the first day with everyone just getting into isn't a big feat, so that reduces my town read of him at the moment, at least he called me out for my opening post, which was indeed worthless, and thought to be just a bit of a discussion starter before I went to bed (I didn't think the game would actually start yesterday). However Pharcyd3 also jumped on me with 1 post, 1 line, calling me out and then leaving the thread. At least equally scummy to my opening post, even more so that he just followed Umasi. There need to come more indeed. Lord Velocity, I don't have to quote here much as every post says: he doesn't like to get attention and tries to behave neutral / hide Holyflare is just doing his thing, posting much, but the content is mostly contentless. As he said himself, he is holding back his informations. Blurry good townread opening posts, focussing on the discussion. Chairman Ray, suspicious, or just weird? What is this about... Killerdog, started out with a strong town post, but then just keept summing Umasi's and Holyf.'s conversation up. I want to have more than you just repeating and summing up the last 5 posts. most Scum: Lord Velocity, Pharcyd3, Chairman Ray, Holyflare (until he stops holding back, which I assume will be on day 1, then we'll see.) most Town: Blurry, Killerdog, Umasi heavenz, were you doing a super speedy skim of the thread? because (a) i called ray out for that comment ages ago and (b) you provided thoughts on basically EVERY SINGLE POSTER last night save for me. hurts my feelings bro. to me, all you've done is provide a vague summary of everyone's comments with light FOS on a few players. i appreciate the sentiment if it's genuine, but this really does not sum up as a pro-town post to me. On September 05 2013 03:48 killerdog wrote: Bereft -Not got much on him, he was supportive of blurry's move to just out reads to get things going, and he was also disagreeing with Holyflare when it came to Holyflares decision to withhold his reads. However while Umasi took this as a queue to pounce on holyflare, Bereft seemed pacified by holyflare posting this: in response to killerdog's comment, i was by no means satisfied with holyflare's responses, but it seemed pretty clear to me that he was dead set from opining on any of us at that point and that he's confident his game play and method can catch scum. to me, this came down to more of a stylistic difference rather than scum vs non scum behavior, so i decided i'd rather just make a note of it and see how his posting evolves (as he hinted that it would with time) rather than eat up the discussion with bickering about differing playing styles. On September 05 2013 08:43 Umasi wrote: Voting vel is dumb, do not do it don't tell me what to do, you're not my parole officer. ok so it seems insane to me how badly LV's defense was in response to the BAREST of pressure placed upon him. On September 04 2013 13:14 Lord Velocity wrote: Okay so apparently I'm getting accused of being on a lot of people scum list which I think is unfair unfair, really? i'm willing to entertain the idea that he's an anxious townie and wanted to post something before he was accused of inactivity (i'm talking about his very first post, mind you, nobody had mentioned they thought he was scummy at this point) -- but at the same time, why would a townie be so anxious to throw out a comment that he hasn't really thought through, ie posting just for the sake of posting? also suspicious is the fact that he then tries to shift the blame to Umasi, 1 of the players who responded aggressively towards his comment iirc. i think also light suspicion was directed at] me. LV, if you have any questions to send my way, please go ahead and ship em over. i'm happy to expand on anything i've already written, because right now it looks to me like you're grasping at straws. unfortunately because he has no other game play for me to take a look at, i can't tell if this is just his town play. On September 04 2013 23:02 Lord Velocity wrote: A lot of people have also seemed to jump on the "Umasi Holy pro town Velocity scum" but nobody has even thought that it could be just shitty town. trust me, i'm heavily debating this right now. finally, fk man, have myrzeth or pharcyd3 posted anything?? (and no, i don't count pharcyd3's 1 liner as a post) | ||
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