On September 06 2013 11:21 debears wrote: Btw, I want to point out that "I think he tried this in XXXXX game" is a bullshit excuse for making an actual meta case where I did this.
I've already asked clarity to do the same, he refused to go and look also. Bring it on. I know you won't find anything like that in my history OO
I'm about as invested in reading your other games to reform my opinion of your play as you are in your one-sentence death sentence.
Wait, you can use that after half a day has passed? You can just fuck with the lynch after half the day cycle? That's supposed to be some kind of town power?
On September 06 2013 11:25 ObviousOne wrote: IT IS TIME FOR A SHOWDOWN.
On September 06 2013 11:41 ObviousOne wrote: Put your horses back in the barn, there, Hiro. It's not a showdown til it's announced there's a fucking showdown.
On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today.
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI:] +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today.
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer?
On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today.
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer?
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today.
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer?
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not retarded.
On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today.
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer?
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not retarded.
I refuse to respond to that post.... it presents a false dichotmy wher you argue he is not retarded backing me intoa corner where if I oppose you I am claiming he is. I didnt. I will reword it for you.
ObviousOne: Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not likely to make that large an error.
it is a response to Onegu who was scum fake claiming, watcher who saw Alak visited by the (obv) town(nosy neigh). (onegu was a scum tracker who had tracked the towny)
Alak sees this and claims tracker... (some one who visits but is not necessarily visted.) and concludes merrily they are now both confirmed town.... its a bit out there... Ok?
it might just change your settings for just how likely Alak is to do stuff as town.
The lynch will happen in at Saturday, Sep 07 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). You may now only vote for either debears or ObviousOne. With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required.
Alakaslam is being modkilled and will flip with the night post.
On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: [quote]
Explain why if you think he is.
@OBVIOUS.
it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question...
NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle.
So I want an answer from the information you had at that time....
##unvote: Alakslam
##vote: ObviousOne
yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too)
I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this."
I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post...
You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town?
Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming.
Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip.
Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?)
Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM?
Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read.
I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view.
Does that help?
ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post.
Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI +
BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that."
Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos"
Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town.
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. "
The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer?
Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion?
Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not retarded.
I refuse to respond to that post.... it presents a false dichotmy wher you argue he is not retarded backing me intoa corner where if I oppose you I am claiming he is. I didnt. I will reword it for you.
ObviousOne: Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not likely to make that large an error.
it is a response to Onegu who was scum fake claiming, watcher who saw Alak visited by the (obv) town(nosy neigh). (onegu was a scum tracker who had tracked the towny)
Alak sees this and claims tracker... (some one who visits but is not necessarily visted.) and concludes merrily they are now both confirmed town.... its a bit out there... Ok?
it might just change your settings for just how likely Alak is to do stuff as town.
We're having a massive communication fail because I don't see an actual question here. If I'm understanding this right, you and I are on opposites sides of the fence when it comes to his use of the randomizer or whatever it was called. Is that correct? And that you also disagree that my subjective view on the other points also don't point to him being town. I'm not sure what I'm arguing against here, if anything.
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