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On October 01 2013 13:09 Mocsta wrote:

Are u going to mount a defense against kita case?

On October 01 2013 13:21 Mocsta wrote:
That's a smooth line.

I thought kita points were far from general and pertained directly to motive and mindset.

I look forward to your retort to the case.

On October 01 2013 10:49 kitaman27 wrote:


As I mentioned earlier, WaveofShadow, Zaragon, Umasi, and Mattchew all mentioned FT as one of their mafia suspects before their deaths. All three players that died last night wanted to kill him. These kills were strange enough that I think it is likely that they were picked out for their reads.

On day one, FT is clearly around and reading the thread at the start of the game, yet he fails to provide a lynch candidate. He appears to be afk towards the end of the day and never votes, so I'll chalk this up as a null tell.



Once night two starts, he comes out with the trademark "large post that says absolutely nothing". Apparently addressing the vig situation really means "I'm going to list 10 different players you could consider shooting based on activity". It really shouldn't taken this much time for him to essentially tell us that he is fine with a third of the game getting shot. He later posts his read on Zaragon and tells the vig to shoot him. If this was his scum read, then why did he just spend the last fifteen minutes with his list post?

Throughout the game, he produces several half-hearted cases against players, but he never actually goes after his targets. There is a limited amount of interaction with the players he suspects. A lot of the time, he asks others to ask him questions, rather than contribution on topics that he finds important on his own.



This post is a really generic soft defend. He doesn't want to commit to a town read on Ceph, so he states that he is fine with a vig shot, yet wouldn't lynch him. This allows him to vote elsewhere later on in the cycle.



This is the scummiest post in his filter. I'm lost count of the number of times a scum player shows up after the lynch only to yell at town for something they showed no interest in preventing. He criticizes town for the LoneMeow lynch. The problem? He hasn't defended LoneMeow all game. He voted Umasi, a player who had no chance of getting lynched and essentially went afk again when the lynch was being decided. I gave him a pass for doing it on day one, but this is now two days in a row where he has displayed his apathy for the lynch.

When he performs his post lynch analysis, he still never acknowledges that cephiro is scum. So if he is frustrated about town going "full retard", how could he think it was a terrible lynch if the alternative wasn't incredibly scummy in his opinion?



On day three, he votes geript, but makes this post about Cephiro. Who exactly is he trying to convince? The vote is clearly going to be a blow out. Despite not being able to see scum motivation from Mocsta, he has a revelation post flip and notices the connection. Is this honestly something that he wouldn't consider beforehand?

There is a pretty apologetic theme from most of his posts and there are several points where he seems more interested in defending himself or making himself look good with unnaturally worded posts, rather than pushing his prefered mafia lynch. I'm not sure if there is anyone in this game that actually has a town read on FT, which generally points to mafia.

##Vote: FirmTofu

On October 01 2013 13:58 Mocsta wrote:
And ft

In your opinion. Is kitamin misguided town using heuristics or scum looking to mislynch off "generalities"

On October 01 2013 13:45 Mocsta wrote:
Interesting

I'm going to have to give this some thought.

Ft
Please comment in cc cop claim
And
Risen

On October 01 2013 16:19 Pandain wrote:
Firm are you still reading?

On October 01 2013 14:52 Mocsta wrote:
FirmTofu

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What changed?

On October 01 2013 17:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum mocsta so tryhard.
##unvote
##vote FirmTofu

On October 01 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Summary last games FT:

Titanic: Pretty good play by FT. Good filter/good everything. Scum
GoT. 2 page filter with pregame banter. Town.
Persona: FT didn't bother too much. But it was okish. Decent filter. Scum
Desert: Didn't follow it closely but it was really bad right? he had 1 page filter. Town

Seems like more tryhard as scum. 8 pages here.
Remember how I told you rayn voted CR without good reasoning over FT?

Yeah...

On October 02 2013 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:

Good point. Who do you want to lynch or are you gonna waste your vote again?

On October 02 2013 03:18 kitaman27 wrote:
FT, do you still think iamp "must be scum"?