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Ohai ladies.
I back.
A few things:
For those people asking about my intentions and posting regarding DP: I played a stretch of games with him a little while ago and became fairly confident in my townread of him. Ever since playing voice mafia with him I feel like my ability is now slightly crowded since I know a little more about him and his style. My prodding served two purposes: first of all, as some of you may or may not know, DP likes to play his game with a pinch of salt, that is to say, he gets angry/annoyed pretty easily. As such after delving a little into attempting to determine his alignment I decided to see how he'd react to some dumb (and yet truthful) comments:
On September 21 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? YEs NO NO Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that: A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die. B) potentially get medic protected Also: C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun. This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor. Are you 3P DP?
On September 21 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP
geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.
He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.
As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted. I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite. I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts. It's pretty damn meaningless.
DP didn't take easy bait here and has actively REALLY attempted to avoid shitting things up despite an aggravating geript (who I'm pretty sure is town, btw) and me to a lesser degree pushing him. More likely town for that as it's really easy to pawn off or excuse early game shitfests/trolling.
The second purpose of my prodding, specifically the questions post, is that not only did I actually want to know the legitimate answers to those questions (which DP answered very well imo) I also wanted to gauge some other reactions to those questions as some people have noticed, is kind of an odd line of questioning and essentially only pertains to DP's specific meta, which I will explain here for people who don't know.
DP is known as a very strong town player. As such he is often a target of mafia kills extremely early in many games, including dying on N0 games before he can even DO anything. He absolutely hates this (almost as much as he hates 3P survivor apparently, for similar reasons---hence my bait about 3P despite there obviously not being one in this game. DP didn't take it  ) The reason I asked him here is because as a townie, I very much want a town DP to be on my side and a part of the game as long as possible, so I was wondering if perhaps he would have considered changing his posting style slightly so if town, he could survive mafia hits a while longer. This doesn't appear to be the case and is perfectly fine.
Hopefully I will have no caught up to everything relevant regarding me up until recently.
New stuff:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
Yamato, come on dude. You're not that bad.
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I'm not particularly interested in lynching Mocsta today. While I disagree with some of his methodology, he's posting enough and in such a way that if he's scum he'll tell us about it.
I could feasibly lynch LM from his filter but I'm gonna ng to read him in context when I get back to a computer.
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On September 22 2013 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not particularly interested in lynching Mocsta today. While I disagree with some of his methodology, he's posting enough and in such a way that if he's scum he'll tell us about it.
I could feasibly lynch LM from his filter but I'm gonna ng to read him in context when I get back to a computer.
I'm precisely saying that his posting IS telling you that he's scum.
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@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far.
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On September 22 2013 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm saying I disagree.
Why?
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The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.
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On September 22 2013 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far.
What game plan?
I don't have one. As town I hunt scum, and I make it easy for people to determine that I'm town. D1 is slow for me and always has been. I'll be able to get a read on a few players here and there but I very rarely have strong scumreads until a little later in the game unless it's something like Dandel.
What more would you like from me specifically?
Right now I could lynch LM based on Marv's point, or maybe justanothertownie. And don't even get me started on the lurker/no-post factor because that shit pisses me off every game regardless of my alignment. I have to stuff to say about that too but I don't want to derail if people don't want to hear it from me atm.
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On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.
Can you quote specific posts so I can see what you apparently see?
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On September 22 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far. What game plan? I don't have one. As town I hunt scum, and I make it easy for people to determine that I'm town. D1 is slow for me and always has been. I'll be able to get a read on a few players here and there but I very rarely have strong scumreads until a little later in the game unless it's something like Dandel. What more would you like from me specifically? Right now I could lynch LM based on Marv's point, or maybe justanothertownie. And don't even get me started on the lurker/no-post factor because that shit pisses me off every game regardless of my alignment. I have to stuff to say about that too but I don't want to derail if people don't want to hear it from me atm.
What's your read on VisceraEyes?
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On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.
Yup.
Geript is a ballsy player in general as town or scum but specifically attacking DP, who is a well-known strong town player and getting on his bad side is suicidal if Geript is scum and DP town. It would honestly make more sense if DP were scum and geript town, but I do not believe Geript actually has strong enough reasons to call DP scum fo realz, and I do not personally believe DP is scum atm.
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Although after reading he did go from taking a stance to saying firmly null. :/
convince me Yam. Mocsta jerry regardless of alignment. Why scum this game?
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On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
If you want me to comment on something different you just have to ask me instead of trying to paint me red. Note that I was specifially asked about my read on you and this post was the only one that stuck out to me. Why would I not ask about the intention behind it?
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On September 22 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me. Yup. Geript is a ballsy player in general as town or scum but specifically attacking DP, who is a well-known strong town player and getting on his bad side is suicidal if Geript is scum and DP town. It would honestly make more sense if DP were scum and geript town, but I do not believe Geript actually has strong enough reasons to call DP scum fo realz, and I do not personally believe DP is scum atm.
I agree with this, but he was talking about Mocsta's stuff about geript.
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Like he told Oats to ask for replacement in first hour of one game for stupidity as town. Why abrasive =scum to you?
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On September 22 2013 03:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far. What game plan? I don't have one. As town I hunt scum, and I make it easy for people to determine that I'm town. D1 is slow for me and always has been. I'll be able to get a read on a few players here and there but I very rarely have strong scumreads until a little later in the game unless it's something like Dandel. What more would you like from me specifically? Right now I could lynch LM based on Marv's point, or maybe justanothertownie. And don't even get me started on the lurker/no-post factor because that shit pisses me off every game regardless of my alignment. I have to stuff to say about that too but I don't want to derail if people don't want to hear it from me atm. What's your read on VisceraEyes?
VE?
I'm not sure of him atm. I think what most surprises me right now is his lack of interaction with (or even mentioning of) me. We're just coming off of a win in Aperture and we're pretty good buds so I would think if a town VE found me town he wouldn't hesitate to interact as he is a buddying kinda guy.
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On September 22 2013 03:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me. Yup. Geript is a ballsy player in general as town or scum but specifically attacking DP, who is a well-known strong town player and getting on his bad side is suicidal if Geript is scum and DP town. It would honestly make more sense if DP were scum and geript town, but I do not believe Geript actually has strong enough reasons to call DP scum fo realz, and I do not personally believe DP is scum atm. I agree with this, but he was talking about Mocsta's stuff about geript.
Oh. Let me have a look. Also want to comment on JAT's recent post.
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On September 22 2013 03:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although after reading he did go from taking a stance to saying firmly null. :/
convince me Yam. Mocsta jerry regardless of alignment. Why scum this game?
In my experience, he's not necessarily this way when he's town. As I said, it's something I associate with scum Mocsta.
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