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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:44 GMT
#801
On September 22 2013 00:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Wave:
His posts about the Geript/DP argument (about them overdoing it) do make sense to me but they are not alignment indicative. Scum could easily point that out too. Null.

What I don't really understand is this:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)

All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses?

What is the intention behind this? I must admit that I don't know DPs meta but it is not very townie to call someone out for trying hard as a townie.


Funny, because this is the Wave post I jotted down as likelier to come from town. Seems a really weird angle to fake or take as mafia.

Are you confused by the questions and their goal? Mafia are usually more straightforward. I'm not sure where it's coming from, but funky shit like this is somewhat more likely to come from town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:44 GMT
#802
On September 22 2013 02:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:38 geript wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me?

How about we lynch you instead?

Don't be bad plz.



Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum.

You can thank me once he flips red.

If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again.


I didn't call you bad, I asked you not to be bad, implying you will be if you try to lynch me. I even said plz, that's pretty nice.
Do you disagree with what I said about Kush?

No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally.

So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet.

Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah

Don't talk to me please. I don't want to hear it and I don't want to be baited into more shit flinging with you. Which is clearly your intention.

So calling you out for not taking anything but the safest easiest stance and not taking any other stance on anything period is baiting you? RTFT. You just don't want to be called to the table for your shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:46 GMT
#803
To Marv. Your read on DP... Gogogogo
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 21 2013 17:46 GMT
#804
YAY marv is here. I was getting worried.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:50 GMT
#805
DP is fine. No, I don't want to elaborate.

If I had to lynch a person right now, it would be LoneMeow. Open his filter if you'd like to know why.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:52 GMT
#806
You make me sad
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:52 GMT
#807
Basically, I'm not going to comment on any shitfests I see unless I significantly think one of the people in one is likely to be mafia.

Or unless I'm having one myself.

:/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:54 GMT
#808
I found one odd post from DP, but I'm not sure how much it means

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=30#599

It's unlike DP to defer like this. Then again, I don't see any particular reason he'd do so as mafia rather than town. Just something I noticed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 21 2013 17:55 GMT
#809
On September 22 2013 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
DP is fine. No, I don't want to elaborate.

If I had to lynch a person right now, it would be LoneMeow. Open his filter and look at this quote if you'd like to know why.
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

ftfy
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#810
It was his followup I disliked more actually

On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
September 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#811
On September 22 2013 02:15 kushm4sta wrote:
his case of me was actually pretty decent though


So feel like throwing out who we should lynch instead of you?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 21 2013 17:57 GMT
#812
On September 22 2013 02:54 marvellosity wrote:
I found one odd post from DP, but I'm not sure how much it means

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=30#599

It's unlike DP to defer like this. Then again, I don't see any particular reason he'd do so as mafia rather than town. Just something I noticed.


We are in a townie circle together essentially. Also last game he read Koshi correctly and I read him incorrectly. So yeah that is pretty much the reason.

What do you think of geript? Do you buy his (assumed) vig claim?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 17:59 GMT
#813
I'm not going to think about geript until I'm forced to think about geript. Which is hopefully not this cycle.

It's all just this blerghy mess.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 21 2013 18:00 GMT
#814
On September 22 2013 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not going to think about geript until I'm forced to think about geript. Which is hopefully not this cycle.

It's all just this blerghy mess.

thoughts on rayn
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 18:02 GMT
#815
No particular thoughts.

If I have something to say that's significant enough to lean one way or another, I'll probably come out with it without needing to be prodded to.

rayn be rayn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 21 2013 18:02 GMT
#816
I think rayn has been posting care free and without burden. I can't say i can pick out any specific content that I like, but I do like the tone
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#817
On September 22 2013 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not going to think about geript until I'm forced to think about geript. Which is hopefully not this cycle.

It's all just this blerghy mess.


It's actually not. And it's actually important. If he is a Vig he is likely going to shoot me stupidly. If he isn't he is scum. It hasn't ALL been a shit fest and there are some key points that VE made.

Obviously I know you well enough to know that you will do what you want regardless. But i kinda expected you to have some input on this.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#818
rayn is preeeetty good at posting a lot as mafia though.

Pretty wary of assigning reads to him one way or another yet.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 21 2013 18:04 GMT
#819
On September 22 2013 03:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
I'm not going to think about geript until I'm forced to think about geript. Which is hopefully not this cycle.

It's all just this blerghy mess.


It's actually not. And it's actually important. If he is a Vig he is likely going to shoot me stupidly. If he isn't he is scum. It hasn't ALL been a shit fest and there are some key points that VE made.

Obviously I know you well enough to know that you will do what you want regardless. But i kinda expected you to have some input on this.


If he's town and vigilante, then the deadline for him shooting you is over 48 hours away, with a lynch in the middle.

I just don't care right now. I will care later if it still seems to be an issue.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 21 2013 18:04 GMT
#820
So now that I'm done destroying DP in Voice Mafia (hue) and winning at LoL with Wave/Mattchew, it's time to play forum mafia with these wonderful fellows!

First and foremost, I will address the DP/Geript situation. Normally, I ignore these arguments becuase I find that telling the difference between mafia arguing and town arguing is quite difficult. However, this argument is still ongoing and has the potential to wreck D1, so I will put an end to it right here:

@DP

Geript as mafia would NOT be this ballsy at calling you mafia. The fact that he even went through the effort to make a case on you after he found your initial posts suspicious is proof enough that he isn't just making this up. Whether you agree with me or not, you should stop responding to him and look at the rest of the thread. I note a distinct lack of any other reads from you. You may be on tilt, but that is no reason to continue to argue incessantly with the person you think is mafia/thinks you are mafia.

@Geript

I understand that you thnik DP is mafia, however, you said it yourself that this would be a waste of effort because it is unlikely that you will get him lynched D1. This is true. Even if he is mafia (I am, as yet, unsure), you arguing with him is not going to advance your cause. If you are town, as I think you are, why don't you do the same thing I suggested to DP and look at the rest of the game? Right now, all you are doing is attracting votes on yourself.




As for the other players in the game, I have a few problems with how some of your handled this situation:

@Mocsta

While you appear to be pushing a pro-town agenda (asking for reads/creating discussion), I note an undertone of aggressiveness and condescension that I associate with scum Mocsta. You have generally shat on whomever you were conversing with to the point that I feel your presence has actually been anti-town. As noted by others, your odd initial posting style and choice to call out a lurking Pandain is also giving legitimacy to my mafia read of you.

@VisceraEyes

I have conflicting opinions about you. On one hand, I don't generally like to see a VE that sheeps as hard as you have sheeped this game. As soon as the geript train got rolling, you jumped on it and tooted the horn. On the other hand, you seem emotionally involved in the game, which I take as a towntell. As of yet, I notice a void of other reads from you. You seemed to be looking at Mocsta, what do you think of my read of him?

@WaveofShadow

Your early contribution to this game was markedly pathetic. You complained about the amount of "shit flinging", but did absolutely nothing but add to the amount of shit in the thread. Your early conversation with DP was also completely pointless and lead nowhere. You still have yet to give out a legitimate read or even seriously weigh in on the geript/DP situation.

At the moment, you are the best lynch candidate among the active players. If you're town, you would be far more useful at this stage of the game than you are now.

##Vote WaveofShadow




Other notable posts:

On September 21 2013 19:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Time to stop taking my crazy pills and join in the fun.

I'm not familiar with Koshi's meta, I can't really say what the hell he's doing.

Kush is making more sense than I remember him ever making, I'll keep an eye on that.

Aaaaand that's all I got at this point.


Out of the entire thread up to this point, I would expect more than this. This post, as an entrance, says nothing, and pushes no agenda. Mafia feel no impetus early on, and thus, do nothing. Sentinel is currently an excellent lynch candidate behind WoS.

On September 22 2013 00:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
not reading anything before this post, game starts now for me. I am an amnesiac and have lost the pages to the thread, my goal this game is to slowly find all the missing pages.

[image loading]


Also suspicious, much for the same reason. I will be keeping an eye on him. I will be able to accurately read him based on how he chooses to re-enter the thread.




That's the most important stuff that's happened in the thread at the moment. If anyone wants to bring anything else to my attention, feel free.
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