EPTI guess you haven't felt as flippant with things?
TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 45
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
I guess you haven't felt as flippant with things? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 22 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote: You almost always read me wrong, twinkletoes. To wave, I'm not sure where you're going with this JAT thing? You seem to be reading more into him questioning that DP post of yours than I'm understanding. Explain to me like I'm a lil babe? Essentially he hasn't contributed a great deal and it looked to me at the time as though he jumped on an 'odd' post of mine which is an easy thing to do when you're trying to contribute (read: scummy). In questioning him now I'm trying to get him to explain himself as well as contribute more because thus far it's only looked like 'trying' to me and not actual contribution. He's answered me satisfactorily I think but I'm still wary of the 'trying to contribute' vibe I get from him. | ||
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Stutters695
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Koshi
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justanothertownie
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On September 22 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Essentially he hasn't contributed a great deal and it looked to me at the time as though he jumped on an 'odd' post of mine which is an easy thing to do when you're trying to contribute (read: scummy). In questioning him now I'm trying to get him to explain himself as well as contribute more because thus far it's only looked like 'trying' to me and not actual contribution. He's answered me satisfactorily I think but I'm still wary of the 'trying to contribute' vibe I get from him. It's Day1. I hate Day1. If i see something I really think is scummy I will point it out you can be sure of this but at the moment I don't see such a thing and I am not good a posting if I don't have a useful thing to say. That's why I ask people to let me know what they want me to comment on so they can at least read me. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Journal, I've woken up in a tattered cot this morning. I see wanted posters plastered around the dingy room but don't know why they are there. Cunning looking bandits and murderers stare back at me as I try to collect my thoughts, but alas...nothing. The one thing I know for sure is that it's unsafe out there, your instincts never fade. I've looked multiple times through the scattered papers and in my belongings for any records of my name or who I am but I can't find a trace. I managed to find a ration of oatmeal though so that's all I've eaten today. I need to get out there and discover what I should do next, but there's always the problem of forgetting what I have just done. I probably won't even remember making this entry. Until next time, adieu. | ||
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Koshi
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Things I know: People who have not contributed - some might be lurking, others may have forgotten they signed up for this game: gumshoe Chairman Ray Cephiro Xzavier Onegu Zenatsu Risen iamp said he wanted to be replacement, what happened to that? Meapak_Ziphh - should really consider linking the filters in the list of signups. It's hard to bring up a bunch of filters when you have to manually type in the URL. Stutters695 - Stutters, like myself, doesn't like kush in this game. I'm actually curious as to why kush suddenly engages actively in the thread, and I agree with the fact that he's being thread police instead of being productive in the townfinding effort. What I don't like is how hard Stutters is tunneling kush. Every post in his filter at the time of this post is directed at lynching kush, or begging others to join the bandwagon, and nothing else. I would like to see what you think of other players Stutters. Coagulation - still completely fucking useless. Other than his "summary of today", which doesn't contribute anything to scumhunting and doesn't even summarize much, he has nothing. Here are his accusations: On September 22 2013 02:33 Coagulation wrote: That being said pandain and geirpt are both prettt scummy On September 22 2013 04:17 Coagulation wrote: Anyone buying marvs tryhard "taking notes" bullshit? I consider myself a bit of a marv aficionado and hes giving me bad vibes here for sure. I would like to see some good evidence for lynching either pandain or geript. The marv thing isn't really an accusation since he's kinda warming up to him and accusing him with some of the least imposing language possible. So three accusations with zero bite, plus a summary, means he might as well have been lurking. Actually it's worse because when you lurk you may have an excuse, whether legit or not. Coag's been reading and posting and still has nothing to say. ##Vote Coagulation | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
I'd like to see them either contribute or flip (preferably the first one, a pressured lurker scum is easier to spot) | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
I apologize for not having filters up sooner, fixing that now... | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 21 2013 12:08 DarthPunk wrote: And you want to be useless and Bad. Cool. Why did DP capitalize "Bad"? I dun lyke sekrits so plox explain Mr.DP. Okay, I'm done with my trolling for the day. I see that geript and DP have engaged in a shitfest argument that is meaningless and spammy filled with ad hominem attacks. That should stop now because it is anti-town play. I like rayn for stepping up to the plate and tell geript and DP to cut out the bullshit. I think DP comes off the worst with this argument. DP has showcased a deliberate and calculted town posting style in past games I've seen of him. He is not the type to spam the thread into uselessness. I'm not saying he's scum, but I really dislike his approach so far. I think we should keep a close watch on him as the day progresses. Geript emerges from the shitfest argument in a favorable light, imo. His town play is usually spammy and meaningless during day one. Good examples include Nuclear Winter and Bluelightz(he was hydra smurf). Still on page 30 catching up to the thread. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 22 2013 01:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Allow me to preface this post by saying that I want to lynch an inactive this game as opposed to very interactive / talkative person. For the first 3 lynches of Aperture, 3/4 of the scumteam was very inactive while town drove itself into oblivion with the minimalistic pushing of mafia. That's something I'd rather avoid this game. Of the actives, Geript is the most suspicious. On one hand, he is ballsy if scum to go after DP. On the other, Geript refuses to drop the arguement that DP is scum when it clearly isn't founded that well. When someone sticks to a bad argument throughout the day, they are probably scum not wanting to budge their position. Geript is lynchbait typically, which makes me hesitate to lynch him given his current state in the game. Again out of the actives, I don't know how to read Mocsta so I'm going to assume town. WoS is leaning scum for me considering that "Why are you making yourself a good shot for scum, DP" post. I feel fucking great and accomplished when shot N1--and it's good for a townie to make themselves obvtown and scumhunt so they 1) are an obv medic save, hopefully scum will waste a KP on him and 2) they are obvtown to the townies who want to find scum by process of elimination. I'll wait for an explanation on that --- WoS has rolled survivor in the last two games so reading him is a bit wonky. Rest of the actives are pretty town. Can I get a filter list in the OP s'il-vous plait?? I'd like to get rid of Coagulation early Just made a list post so far, not even about reads but about generalized thread events. If Coag is going to be a useless fuck just like in Aperture, we should lynch or vig him early on. I'm voting him. Now we just need the other half of the thread to get active, which probably contains 4 scum or something. For the first bold: He then proceeds to vote for Coagulation, who if he's played with him before always ends up non-stop spamming and outspoken bad opinions. I also don't get the impression Mr. Cheesecakes is as actively concerned about this thread as he makes it seem. He is disagreeing with what he says he wants. Also he wants to be concerned about inactives, and I pretty much gave the impression that I was inactive/wanted to not contribute. "doing my own thing." Him defending me later is suspicious unless he knows I'm town. For the second bold: It makes the assumption that DP is town. He could very well have simply implicitly thought that DP and Gretrip can't both be scum, which is logical and I think makes sense. I'm also always watchful of people who post things they could have easily PM'ed the host(Can you put the filter there please!). I for instance PM'd the host. What does this accomplish? On September 22 2013 03:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @ Coagulation Why is pandain scummy to you? Just threw that out there and didnt back it up. Aside: yay me and marv share small scumread. Yamato seems town btw. More defense of me despite me clearly being suspicious. I would think that would be obvious. I actually last night voted geript for a number of reasons: 1. See if anyone else hopped on, I didn't actually think a gretrip lynch was valid for a lot of reasons which marv later posted, namely going after a strong player in DP. DP actually later hopping on is suspicious to me as well. 2. Move the conversation away. Gretrip/DP actually told me almost nothing except they're probably not both scum, and some soft meta hints about DP I have to investigate later. 3. See how people responded to my vote. Wanted to see if anyone unreasonably defended me (Cheesecake); Marv gave a good reasoning forever. I disagree that justanothertownie/lonemeow wanting to place a vote on me to get me to speak is scummy, I do that all the time. That's actually the logical result. Also it's pretty clear to me that Yamato is town at this point. His first post helped stop/convince DP and Gretrip to stop spamming the thread with poor arguments. It was getting disruptive and Yamato approached it logically and I don't see scum doing that. He laid out clear strong opinions on 4 different players, gave out new information, and then later pressured people in thread. I've never seen scum actually help the thread move forward to such an active degree, and it's pretty exciting. I'm waiting to hear more Marv analysis. On September 21 2013 13:48 Mocsta wrote: @Pandain Why art thou presence [RED]NOT[/red] been detected by virtue of filter? | | V *Was present 5 minutes before start. | | V 2.5hrs later. Pandian presence is still unFELT This post is noteworthy to me. Unless it's a theme game, people don't usually do this unless they're trying to actively show how 'townie' they are. But this post doesn't do much, it's a lot of fluff for a small point. I did stuff like this in Insane mafia when running for mayor or other things. However because he is contributing I suggest we wait until later. Obvious one is also suspicious He's making a lot of posts but not a lot of points. Posts like this: On September 21 2013 16:56 ObviousOne wrote: So Mocsta, Koshi, maybe a side of Kush if he never delivers on that case because it otherwise means he's been talking out of his ass. I'm not sure how I want to deal with the geript situation. Whether he's scum or town, he feels cancerous. I was cool with it last game because I was scum and he was like super wrong and fucked with town and it was great, but today I'm not feeling accepting. His playing like this, feels to me, like he sets himself up at best lynch/mislynch of the game to force people to take sides on it. Like he's the only person playing and we're just NPCs. I really would rather not lynch him if he's town, his position is "accept it or whatever" apparently, so can we collectively ignore the shit out of him and focus on things that seem more rational or sane or do we have to lynch him to move on? I'm happier with the former. I'd rather not appeal to his ego by making today about him, which is where his play seems to be geared. Can potentially just vig him if he becomes a problem. On September 21 2013 20:55 ObviousOne wrote: If you had written it that way before I would have been less concerned. By concern I mean I saw it as potentially setting you up to look good by casting suspicion right from the get-go. In this scenario, in my mind and my first instinct, you are potentially both mafia. I am leaning closer to town on you after things went pear shaped and settled out. Hopefully we get some more posting today despite the weekend laziness that seems to be happening. Pre-game was pretty exciting comparatively. Way too defensive and way too uncertain. I liken posting as scum to giving an impromptu graded speech, you're always terrified of saying the wrong thing and so you end up saying really nothing. A lot of "maybe"s and uncertainties are in these posts and they make me think he has the scum innate fear. Deserves further look. Out of all of these, I think Mr. Cheescake is by far the most suspicious. He's only defended me and then disagreed with what he said he wanted, to lynch a lurker; instead he goes after Coag for posting a list. I'm going to analyze him and DP later. On September 22 2013 02:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Give me those juicy scumreads youve been fermenting, please. I don't want to vig you if you're town bro Says stuff like this but doesn't really contribute that much, etc... Disagree that his "man you voted pandain early" posts are accusatory, as what I did was suspicious. The only reason it's not is because it was too suspicious. Marv needs to post more, Sentinel I want more analysis out of you and strong opinions, and I want the atmosphere we have now to stay and for people to consolidate your posts. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
I disagree with your suspicions on both OO and Cheesecake btw. The posts you read as 'uncertain' from OO I read as natural, further his first main post I read made me feel good about him, getting immediately stuck in. CC I'm actually leaning slightly town on, not because he agreed with my main suspicion at the time (Lone) but because he seemed to approach the shitfest in a really weird way. I'll find it hard to explain why it's weird but hopefully it isn't important, suffice to say when I feel that way about CC I feel he's more likely to be town (meta). Sentinel's post on coag feels kinda cheap and doesn't make me feel better about him. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
Pandain sexy fellow. | ||
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Koshi
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
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justanothertownie
16317 Posts
On September 22 2013 06:54 Koshi wrote: Nope. You just pile a shitton of votes on VA. It's that easy. And you think that makes him stop? I am not so sure. You know that he just didn't give a fuck in titanic too and he was town there sadly... | ||
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