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On September 21 2013 23:48 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:31 Zaragon wrote:
Does anyone who has played with him before get any tell about whether his pattern seems more or less deliberate than his usual town? I had this feeling early and it's lingering I have a much stronger town read on DP >> VE. Originally, I thought VE looked really good for pointing out the Geript "manipulation" stuff. But having read the game I dont think the point is that valid. -> its a 50/50 call to me whether it was scum manipulation or town arrogance. Now, VE is back to null for me.
I dont get why me pointing out pandain is scummy. I get the point about instructing him to "post".. BUT.. would i not just do this in the QT? seriously, as scum, i dont think there is town cred to be gained by avoiding the current conversation (Geript/DP) to bring that to the fore.
My reasoning went more like this: from your position (as town) Pandain could be scum or town. If you had an itch about him based on his "..." and lack of posting, and if you had given it more time, he, as scum, would have had less opportunity to give an explanation or excuse. He might even have posted hours later and skipped past that point for his first post, and then would have read significantly more scummy, which you gave him an opportunity to avoid. Meaning that then you could be scum and him town. I'm not saying it makes me particularly suspicious of you now, especially given Pandain's reaction (or lack thereof) so far. Makes it understandable for you to call him out, since it tells me something about his play regardless of alignment.
About VE, I think if geript and DP are both town (which isn't at all a given) his play makes sense as scum, otherwise not, all I have on him besides that is the feeling about his posting I described earlier. If people who have played with him before are comfortable with his posting pattern and emotional level, that means it's probably nothing.
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Wave:
His posts about the Geript/DP argument (about them overdoing it) do make sense to me but they are not alignment indicative. Scum could easily point that out too. Null.
What I don't really understand is this:
On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses?
What is the intention behind this? I must admit that I don't know DPs meta but it is not very townie to call someone out for trying hard as a townie.
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On September 22 2013 00:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
So, Sentinel didn't do anything until now. It's a bit weird that he spammed so much in pre game and wanted to set up a new page record and now there are almost no posts since the game started but that's all I can say about him. Null. Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 09:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Hoo hoo hoo
I'm going to be gone most of Saturday I shall post more once I get off work, 4-ish EST.
Well time zones are confusing to me but the game started on a friday for you, didn't it?
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On September 22 2013 00:30 justanothertownie wrote:Wave: His posts about the Geript/DP argument (about them overdoing it) do make sense to me but they are not alignment indicative. Scum could easily point that out too. Null. What I don't really understand is this: Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? What is the intention behind this? I must admit that I don't know DPs meta but it is not very townie to call someone out for trying hard as a townie.
This is the crux of my issues as well.
Welcome to the town club.
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On September 22 2013 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 22 2013 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
So, Sentinel didn't do anything until now. It's a bit weird that he spammed so much in pre game and wanted to set up a new page record and now there are almost no posts since the game started but that's all I can say about him. Null. On September 21 2013 09:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Hoo hoo hoo
I'm going to be gone most of Saturday I shall post more once I get off work, 4-ish EST. Well time zones are confusing to me but the game started on a friday for you, didn't it?
Started just as I went to bed.
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If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
Playing voice mafia but I'll check back periodically.
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On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
I know nothing of DP. Enlighten me.
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On September 22 2013 00:37 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
I know nothing of DP. Enlighten me.
Actually, Mocsta?
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On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
Playing voice mafia but I'll check back periodically.
Well I honestly don't. So maybe you should explain this.
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On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
Playing voice mafia but I'll check back periodically.
HOW ARE YOU ALWAYS PLAYING VOICE MAFIA
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On September 22 2013 00:48 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
Playing voice mafia but I'll check back periodically. HOW ARE YOU ALWAYS PLAYING VOICE MAFIA
Come play.
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and more importantly why do you feel the need to constantly tell us about it
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I didn't read that Wave post as scummy. Ambiguous, but all the possibilities behind it that I could read are towny or neutral. Unless all it is is a kind of added pressure on DP only going along with Geript, but that feels like the least likely possibility to me so far. I'll wait for the explanation before considering commenting more
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Allow me to preface this post by saying that I want to lynch an inactive this game as opposed to very interactive / talkative person. For the first 3 lynches of Aperture, 3/4 of the scumteam was very inactive while town drove itself into oblivion with the minimalistic pushing of mafia. That's something I'd rather avoid this game.
Of the actives, Geript is the most suspicious. On one hand, he is ballsy if scum to go after DP. On the other, Geript refuses to drop the arguement that DP is scum when it clearly isn't founded that well. When someone sticks to a bad argument throughout the day, they are probably scum not wanting to budge their position. Geript is lynchbait typically, which makes me hesitate to lynch him given his current state in the game.
Again out of the actives, I don't know how to read Mocsta so I'm going to assume town. WoS is leaning scum for me considering that "Why are you making yourself a good shot for scum, DP" post. I feel fucking great and accomplished when shot N1--and it's good for a townie to make themselves obvtown and scumhunt so they 1) are an obv medic save, hopefully scum will waste a KP on him and 2) they are obvtown to the townies who want to find scum by process of elimination. I'll wait for an explanation on that --- WoS has rolled survivor in the last two games so reading him is a bit wonky.
Rest of the actives are pretty town.
Can I get a filter list in the OP s'il-vous plait??
I'd like to get rid of Coagulation early
On September 21 2013 14:28 Coagulation wrote:
so summary of today
DP and geript have a little pissing contest
VE is cheer leading for team DP
WoS Randomly gets FOSed
Mocsta jumps in thread and starts pissing on team DP
Mocsta trys to piss a little on pandain
kush says stuff no one cares
is that right?
Just made a list post so far, not even about reads but about generalized thread events. If Coag is going to be a useless fuck just like in Aperture, we should lynch or vig him early on.
I'm voting him. Now we just need the other half of the thread to get active, which probably contains 4 scum or something.
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As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter.
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain
On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.
These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain.
"I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me.
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well hello everybody... i am playing!
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On September 22 2013 01:38 Mattchew wrote:
well hello everybody... i am playing!
Are you claiming nosy neighbour?
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