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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 05:55 GMT
#4801
On September 28 2013 14:51 iamperfection wrote:
moc a lot of your points against mr cc revolve around his reaction to decondu and they reek of confirmation bias and taking stuff out of context.

where you say cc is fucked and other points regarding decondu looks like the same analysis that i put in when decondu came in. I thought he looked extremely bad yet you twist to say well he must be defending cephiro. You fail to account for maybe he is just reading decondu at the time which is clearly evident with the point you made about this post

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=192#3822 This post is clearly reacting to deocondus entrance to the thread. You had similar points revolving around decondu and you took as a defense of cephiro where i see it as just an attempt to analyze decondus entrance to the thread.


On top of that most of your points dont you say yourself are either non tells or dont say anything about aligment. Your main revolves around decondu and his reaction to it and you took it as a defense which i think is just wrong as it was just a reaction.

You cant just take posts out of context what is happening in the thread at the time is a big part of trying to figure out alignments. Since mr. CC had similar reactions to myself it leads me to believe he is town.

1. him finding decondu scummy for the way he came in voted and left

2. the immediate reaction to the claim to go look if it is legit ( remember mr cc would know lone was telling the truth if he were scum)

On top of that Mr. CC caring about the lynch and the fluid and open dialouge he was having throughout it points to him more likely to be town. Hard for most scum to do that.
I didnt mind his reaction yesterday, so i was actually thinking the same thing(s) today myself.

Its something I will mull over after the Cephiro lynch outcome.
I'm still pretty sure Stutters can be lynched safely though.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 08:10 GMT
#4802
Okay so the "caring about the lynch" argument for D2 is bullshit iamp.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 10:23 GMT
#4803
Mocsta i know you should be around. What do you think of iamp's statement regarding what i said in my last post?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 10:49 GMT
#4804
On September 28 2013 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta i know you should be around. What do you think of iamp's statement regarding what i said in my last post?

My opinion hasn't changed from before.

I will re-examine once Cephiro has been lynched.

I don't think I have confirmation bias as per what iamp said, because:
(1) I had a probable town read on Mr.CC until the post in question; &
(2) My posts build up suspicion, as more information comes about; which tie in directly to my suspicion

Having said that though; I am still making an educated deduction based on limited information, so it was brash for me to say Mr.CC is 100% scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#4805
No, problem is, like i said on D2, that there were no people contributing towards the lynch, when it mattered.
For the first 36 hours, there were ~7 people who were actively trying to find out a lynch/defending themselves. They were (on top of my head) me, you, marv, yamato, FT, JAT and more or less a couple of other dudes maybe.

That's really crap. In the last 8h every single lurker chimed in and suddenly there was some LoneMeow lynch that came out of nowhere. I am not saying it was a bad lynch in the first place, i am saying it was a fucked up lynch because of the timing and how the lynch went down. IT was easy for scum to "contribute" towards the lynch at that point, i am more interested in looking into people who were absent in the first place and came along "discussing the lynch" when the wagons were already set up.

Can you see what i am trying to say Mocsta?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:13 GMT
#4806
On September 28 2013 19:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, problem is, like i said on D2, that there were no people contributing towards the lynch, when it mattered.
For the first 36 hours, there were ~7 people who were actively trying to find out a lynch/defending themselves. They were (on top of my head) me, you, marv, yamato, FT, JAT and more or less a couple of other dudes maybe.

That's really crap. In the last 8h every single lurker chimed in and suddenly there was some LoneMeow lynch that came out of nowhere. I am not saying it was a bad lynch in the first place, i am saying it was a fucked up lynch because of the timing and how the lynch went down. IT was easy for scum to "contribute" towards the lynch at that point, i am more interested in looking into people who were absent in the first place and came along "discussing the lynch" when the wagons were already set up.

Can you see what i am trying to say Mocsta?

I can see what you are trying to say;

and I eagerly await your analysis.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 11:16 GMT
#4807
I got some if you need it.

Mainly iamp and CC.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 11:18 GMT
#4808
Which side are you on Mocsta?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:19 GMT
#4809
On September 28 2013 20:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I got some if you need it.

Mainly iamp and CC.

I was hoping with the preamble you made;

the content would be more than "iamp" and "cc"
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 11:20 GMT
#4810
On September 28 2013 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Which side are you on Mocsta?

The same side you know I am on.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:05 GMT
#4811
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:06 GMT
#4812
On September 28 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really think iamp and CCare scum, i wanna see if you can find that out too.
Mark my words on D4.

Are you reading the thread?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:07 GMT
#4813
Yes i am reading the thread. Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:09 GMT
#4814
If you are implying you share my thoughts i can't see it from your posts even though you write CC is scum.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:15 GMT
#4815
so channeling oats

"whose scum"
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:21 GMT
#4816
cc iamp stutters cephiro pandabearguy VE.
A couple of other contenders if i am wrong on someone.
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 28 2013 12:24 GMT
#4817
On September 28 2013 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cc iamp stutters cephiro pandabearguy VE.
A couple of other contenders if i am wrong on someone.


On September 26 2013 11:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LoneMeow (13): Mattchew, Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes, Pandain, Cephiro, Stutters695, Mocsta, iamperfection, Mocsta. Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon


So if we look pre-fake claim.

Mattchew, Mr.CC, VE, Coag, OO, Pandain, Cephrio, Stutters

& Post-fake claim.

Mocsta, iamp, Mr.CC, VE, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon



5/6 scum voting one person, pre-fake claim.

Yeah... im going with a no here.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:30 GMT
#4818
On September 28 2013 21:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cc iamp stutters cephiro pandabearguy VE.
A couple of other contenders if i am wrong on someone.


Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 11:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LoneMeow (13): Mattchew, Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes, Pandain, Cephiro, Stutters695, Mocsta, iamperfection, Mocsta. Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon


So if we look pre-fake claim.

Mattchew, Mr.CC, VE, Coag, OO, Pandain, Cephrio, Stutters

& Post-fake claim.

Mocsta, iamp, Mr.CC, VE, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon



5/6 scum voting one person, pre-fake claim.

Yeah... im going with a no here.

That's WIFOM Mocsta. Pure WIFOM, and does not mean anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:31 GMT
#4819
Look at actions, not WIFOM.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 28 2013 12:32 GMT
#4820
You can't base a read (town/scum) on someone based purely on who they voted for. Why are you doing this man?
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