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On September 23 2013 19:04 Mocsta wrote:

Wtf is blahzinghand on there for....

and fuck u too koshi

On September 23 2013 19:14 marvellosity wrote:
Not very exciting ones. He's not on my shitlist atm anyway.

On September 23 2013 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Current shitlist is Firm/Pandain/Stutters/Risen/LM/(Vayne)

On September 23 2013 19:22 Mocsta wrote:

Yeah, like thers suspect ppl in that list for sure.

BUT .. 5 to 6 ppl replaced in.. Are you suggesting it is likely they are all town?

On September 23 2013 19:22 Mocsta wrote:

Yeah, like thers suspect ppl in that list for sure.

BUT .. 5 to 6 ppl replaced in.. Are you suggesting it is likely they are all town?

On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.

On September 23 2013 19:26 Mocsta wrote:

You forgot to add yourself.

On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Finally got some decent reads. :D
[spoiler]
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.

As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.

We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.

Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.

Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used.

Finally you have the completely useless. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned.[/spoiler[

On September 23 2013 19:27 FirmTofu wrote:
I would actually place myself in the category right before that one, but I can see why you might think that.

On September 23 2013 19:27 FirmTofu wrote:
I would actually place myself in the category right before that one, but I can see why you might think that.

On September 23 2013 19:28 Koshi wrote:

The group that is most likely scum? wtf.

On September 21 2013 14:31 Zaragon wrote:
Not much to go on without wild speculation on people's meta connections and personalities.

From posting interval as it relates to content, I like Geript less. He was pushing a little too hard too fast for either pure pressure or getting anything out of his read if he had one, while still posting at methodical, relatively slow intervals.

He did get to DP to be able to read him very early but it feels mostly like pushing buttons and corresponding reactions to me. Barring any history of reckless responses as scum on DP's part for context, DP feels most likely town. Geript could possibly be scum with one overplayed line DP picked up on, then feeling like he was forced to keep going somewhat like he was. However, it's still more likely to be town on town to me so far.

On September 22 2013 00:25 Zaragon wrote:


My reasoning went more like this: from your position (as town) Pandain could be scum or town. If you had an itch about him based on his "..." and lack of posting, and if you had given it more time, he, as scum, would have had less opportunity to give an explanation or excuse. He might even have posted hours later and skipped past that point for his first post, and then would have read significantly more scummy, which you gave him an opportunity to avoid. Meaning that then you could be scum and him town. I'm not saying it makes me particularly suspicious of you now, especially given Pandain's reaction (or lack thereof) so far. Makes it understandable for you to call him out, since it tells me something about his play regardless of alignment.

About VE, I think if geript and DP are both town (which isn't at all a given) his play makes sense as scum, otherwise not, all I have on him besides that is the feeling about his posting I described earlier. If people who have played with him before are comfortable with his posting pattern and emotional level, that means it's probably nothing.

On September 22 2013 19:36 Zaragon wrote:
I don't read either Tofu or DP as scum right now. The problem with that is, they could both be, playing off each other, as it would be a good time for that. Still, I'm going to assume they're town for now since the other line of thinking is currently not useful. Especially since Tofu suspects VE, who I have had a bad feeling about all game.

I don't see any other reasoning for going after DP at this point as scum, I hope DP will elaborate about why he thinks there is.

Oh and from earlier:






It was a bedtime post. But I'm glad you made some kind of use of it, even if only Rayn comes out looking slightly scum from it, to me. Rayn, would you say that your posts have generally had more substance than the one you pointed out? If we assume that asking what someone else thinks is not substance.