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On August 10 2013 05:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:22 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:21 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:17 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:11 Oberyn wrote: yamato is getting on my nerves with his refusal to contribute. We shouldn't have to beg him.
I told him that he was the number one vig shot between the Lords and that he really needs to start posting if he is town.
His reply was essentially: "meh doubt it." It's not so much a refusal as an insidious apathy. Why are you being so obstreperous? You could just share your thoughts, and communicate freely with your lord. Even I am communicating with your lord, and I think he's a blithering idiot... and that's IN ADDITION to the inborn propensity of all Martells to be duplicitous assholes. It is STILL what a loyalist would do: we must find Blackfyres. Look, I already told you guys who to lynch. Why were you so mad at oats at the start of the game for not allowing you to get a read on him when you don't care enough to allow others to get a read on you? I'm here now. Read me.
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On August 10 2013 05:28 Grackaroni wrote: I don't really see as town how you could genuinely be angry at oats and then be a complete hypocrite to what you expect from others You seem to be missing that I'm here now being readable.
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On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote: Okay, people I want to lynch:
jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.
FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.
Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.
I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now. I find your lack of response to me disturbing. Seems opportunistic to call me scum without actually trying to interact with me at all.
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Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread.
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RE: Oats
I find it doubtful that scum Oats would actually be so argumentative. Hapa is right when he says that scum Oats is the more tolerable version of the two 'Masters.
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On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote: Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread. In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him. So how do you advise we treat the SnB situation, then, Acro? Let him lurk into LYLO?
It's not like he's an incompetent town player. If he's town, he's good enough to show it.
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ACRO:
Doesn't want to lynch SNB for lurking/being useless, but is perfectly fine leaving with his vote on jrkirby, a NEWER PLAYER, for the same thing.
Do not like on bit. >_________>
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On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 05:58 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote: Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread. In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him. So how do you advise we treat the SnB situation, then, Acro? Let him lurk into LYLO? It's not like he's an incompetent town player. If he's town, he's good enough to show it. idiot i'm busier today than i was yesterday. that doesn't mean im lurking. i just coutned, i have sent 123 PMs this game. so fuck you saying i'm scum for inactivity. also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you. So "I do this as town, too!' is your only defense?
Last time I heard that, a SCUM PLAYER was getting lynched D1 in Catch 22.
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On August 10 2013 06:08 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 06:07 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 06:04 strongandbig wrote:On August 10 2013 05:58 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 05:55 Acrofales wrote:On August 10 2013 05:51 yamato77 wrote: Most of SNB's contribution to the game consists of making a big deal out of some rolename controversy within his own house on N0. Aside from complaining that Clarity unwittingly ruined some sort of plan (lolwhatever), there's almost nothing of substance in his filter aside from a townread on Dandel (like that means anything).
His activity also fits in with his scum meta-activity as evidenced by the same sort of lurky and somewhat disinterested play he exhibited in Sicilian. He's set himself up so that he is voting for who his house wants to vote for, conveniently absolving himself of any true scumhunting in-thread. In a previous encounter, a jousting match at Castle PTP, he was largely unavailable and never contributed anything of value, yet was town. Not to say that I encourage that behaviour, but I'm not sure it's sufficient for murdering him. So how do you advise we treat the SnB situation, then, Acro? Let him lurk into LYLO? It's not like he's an incompetent town player. If he's town, he's good enough to show it. idiot i'm busier today than i was yesterday. that doesn't mean im lurking. i just coutned, i have sent 123 PMs this game. so fuck you saying i'm scum for inactivity. also you should know better than this. my activity is just as bad when i'm town as it is when i'm scum. if not worse. you are making up things to suit your agenda and i woudl be down to lynch or vig you. So "I do this as town, too!' is your only defense? Last time I heard that, a SCUM PLAYER was getting lynched D1 in Catch 22. no you fucker my defense is that i have been way, way more active than many people in this game, including you. In PM's*
Not really that useful to me, or difficult to do as a scum player. You're not accountable to as many people, and as this thread is testament to, MANY THINGS are lost in translation between there and here.
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On August 10 2013 06:07 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 06:06 strongandbig wrote: i also wouldn't mind lynching acro for playing in character. I enjoy it, but I'd be fine for lynching acro for being mafia. I support this sentiment.
I find it uncanny that both he and SNB are going after members of my house who I have little problem with. I don't trust either lord nor their votes.
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On August 11 2013 15:06 Sharrant wrote: At any rate, here's reason that you should've picked up on big time already. That whole argument with you at the beginning of the game was not Yamato playing as a townie. I watched you two basically get each other killed arguing with each other as town last time I played with both of you. Yamato has acted very similarly to how he has there, with the exception that he was always driving to make a point or do something useful last game. He was very disruptive, and frustrating, but purposeful and his actions had merit.
In this game he's basically just disrupted conversation, but done so without helping the town. He's been shutting people down, and causing arguments to stifle discussion. There's been nothing useful in his play.
He is mafia, guaranteed. Can you not see the difference in how he argued both games being on the receiving end of it both times? You were scum in that game, so forgive me if I find your opinion... biased.
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On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote: I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.
But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment. It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is.
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On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote: I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.
But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment. It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is. It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol.
jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise.
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I'm more worried about why no one ELSE died than why gumshoe ended up dead.
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On August 11 2013 16:39 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote:On August 11 2013 15:34 yamato77 wrote:On August 10 2013 13:29 Acrofales wrote: I have caught up. There's nothing particularly poignant. Going to watch TI3. I'm online. This lynch looks like a mislynch with the lack of contesting it.
But I am too drunk and don't care enough to fight it. FT has been useles, lets kill him regardless of alignment. It's depressing to me that no one called out Acro on how fucking scummy this single post is. It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol. jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise. coming from you? lol. who would you propose we elect, if not acro? im not voting kush and sharrant said hes going to be pretty much afk today. Yourself? Assuming you're town, of course.
Then again, I might have to actually read your filter.
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So you gave your vote and house powers to a guy you think might be scum so other people can catch him...
>_>
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On August 11 2013 16:54 Ace wrote: dat genius level thinkin
anyway I dont think talking about Acro being elected means shit right now. Lets wait for the next claim and not spam this thread up. What do you think about Acro in general?
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On August 11 2013 17:28 Clarity_nl wrote: My conclusion might be wrong btw. If one of the lords is scum and was aware of the plan... But it makes more sense if the leak is from house lannister because they knew exactly how much hp gumshoe had left. Surely scum would just let town kill a lurker town if they weren't sure how much kp they'd have to use. Your conclusion is also wrong if one house has >1 KP.
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On August 12 2013 03:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 03:00 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:55 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".
wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"? Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad" You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost. I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum. The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing? no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive. Maybe from your perspective, if you are town (which I think is likely) that makes sense. As I've said I'm not going to pursue this until way later in the game if there's been no claim for the shot or no flip that suggests it could be a town shot. However rayn is being dumb and it's annoying because it's exactly the way rayn started playing in titanic, which held up to its namesake. iamp why is your vote not on yamato yet? because i dont feel like putting it there yet i would like to see him dance for my amusement.
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On August 11 2013 21:40 Acrofales wrote: First things first. I haven't read the minutes for the start of today's meeting yet, but I received some important information that I was asked to pass on to the other lords. It seems it is actually pertinent to everybody here. One of my vassals has a network of little birds, who have uncovered that Yamato is a Blackfyre pretender. I trust him and I trust his abilities.
##vote Yamato Why are you voting me? Don't you see how non-threatening I am?
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