GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 192

On August 17 2013 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Wow. Xatalos. Explain.
Clarity was interested in lynching SnB over Vivax.

On August 17 2013 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I don't need to make a case on you, it'll come on later. Now we are murdering Mocsta.

You stopped giving me answers when i talked about the town roleblovker stuff and who did you think were suspicious of you on D1. Well, you did "answer", but i do not believe you are telling the truth because i think you are mafia.

but i do not believe you are telling the truth because i think you are mafia.

On August 17 2013 20:18 Mocsta wrote:
Xat
Please detail why my play is nullish. When u were saying it was leaning townish yesterday.

Why is me saying. This is interesting alignment indicative?

U have been a voice of reason all game. So I am sure that u should be able to easily justify your position.

Lastly. Why have you not commented on the interplay with rayn

On August 17 2013 20:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
It's not that he can point out anything as a lie, but I'm scum, so obviously I'm lying about something.

rayn is scum, I refuse to believe this is coming from a townie.

On August 17 2013 20:33 Mocsta wrote:
Double bus. That's ridiculous to even consider. We have been both legitimately down each other throats

As fir why I gave up. I explained that. There was only 1 lord I trusted abd he insta voted me..is that not demoralizing?

Is it not important I'm here. Still posting?

On August 17 2013 20:35 Xatalos wrote:


It's a LOT better than what yamato or Vivax did under pressure. Or even snb IMO. But there's jrkirby's play to consider as well as the fact that 90+% chance, one of you or Sharrant is scum. Do you think Sharrant is scum?

Onegu, why did you think jrkirby was town by the way?

On August 17 2013 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity scum don't have to lie. They don't have to say it in the first place. Why are you so angry when being accused? I wasn't even accusing you in the first place. I was trying to figure out your thought process. Then you started insulting me and my thought process and got angry.

Xatalos. I am a bit puzzled here. Why is Clarity town to you and me scum (at least i was at some point?). I was the one who brought up Vivax in the first place in D3. It can clearly be seen from my PM's with Risen that i have been suspecting him since D2. Clarity did hesitate lynching Vivax for a long time. Your conclusion is that Vivax gave up in scum QT and Clarity is town because he (clearly?) did not know that or his actions point towards that. Why do you assume so in the first place? Isn't that a bit WIFOMy?

On August 17 2013 20:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity scum don't have to lie. They don't have to say it in the first place. Why are you so angry when being accused? I wasn't even accusing you in the first place. I was trying to figure out your thought process. Then you started insulting me and my thought process and got angry.

On August 17 2013 20:01 Xatalos wrote:
Back (as you can see from my Picard GIF, I was up a bit late last night...).

So we have another redcheck. There's a small chance (like less than 10%) that Mocsta was framed or something, but in all likeliness one of Sharrant or Mocsta is scum and must be lynched today. Mocsta should definitely be our lynch for today out of these two for a couple of reasons:
1) jrkirby's scummy play
2) Mocsta's nullish play
3) Sharrant's earlier redcheck success
4) I can also somewhat understand Sharrant's lacking playstyle if he is a permanent Cop (to avoid KP)
5) Mocsta's first reaction was "this is interesting" and give up, not to assume being framed or that Sharrant is scum - seriously...?

What went down in our House can basically be predicted from my last thread posts before deadline. I think I could have been able to convince Grackaroni to vote for me, but I still had some uncertainty about his alignment and wanted to see how he would use his status today (PMs + vote + KP etc.). I was also pretty certain I would die anyway (looks like I didn't) and I liked his thoughts during N3, leading me just to vote for him.

This crusade against Onegu by rayn is pretty pointless. Clarity had a good point when he said that by rayn's logic, Clarity is also scum. So rayn, is he? If not, why is Onegu scum? If you can't answer, are you just scum and flinging shit for no real reason?

On August 17 2013 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos yes he is. He stopped answering when there are no good answers for him any more.

On August 17 2013 20:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
Anyway here's what's happened.

Rayn as scum figured out something that SEEMS logical, and incriminates onegu.
I point out his logic makes no sense, he insists it does.

Him insisting makes him feel stuck, since if he just backs off he's afraid he'll be pegged as scum.
Then I explain how by his logic, I should be scum as well.

rayn feeling stuck on this one way street, takes the only path in front of him and says "yes, clarity is scum, he didn't answer my questions"
He repeats the fact that I haven't answered his questions a couple of times.
When I insist on him telling me what questions I haven't answered, rayn goes filterdiving and goes "crap, he did answer everything, what do I do?!?"
Then he backtracks and says "Well, you did "answer" my questions but I think it's not the truth, because you're scum"
Notice the lack of explanation, notice how general the accusation of lying is, no specific quote or logic.
Now I push back hard, say his logic makes no sense as town (because it doesn't) and rayn is forced to backtrack even more:


He wasn't even accusing me in the first place it seems.
BUT WAIT
WHEN XATALOS ASKS HIM IF HE THINKS IM SCUM AS WELL AS ONEGU, HE ANSWERS YES



I say fuck the mocsta or sharrant lynch, if sharrant is cop scum have to kill him because they have no roleblocker (unless scum has two, possible I guess). Let's just lynch rayn, definite scum.

On August 17 2013 20:09 Xatalos wrote:


I'm 99% sure Clarity is town. Maybe 80% sure that Onegu is town. It's also not a town mindset to bluehunt instead of scumhunt (like you seem to focus). If someone doesn't seem to be playing that townish, the first thought should be "scum", not "blue", unless you're scum of course. It's also completely stupid to assume that only people who pushed someone in the thread could have roleblocked someone. So I don't really see any value in your accusations.

On August 17 2013 20:44 Xatalos wrote:


Actually yes, Clarity did hesitate about Vivax even before he basically already gave up. Something about "legitimate IRL excuses" for not playing properly. Dunno why he would soft defend Vivax at that point. I guess it's a slight victory for you, but far from conclusive. I would also basically instantly know if Clarity was scum based on some information we shared in PMs and only we should know and NKs were made based on that information.

But the main point is, Clarity was so transparent and proactive in PMs that it's highly, highly unlikely for him to be scum.

On August 17 2013 20:50 Xatalos wrote:


LOL wtf Rayn? Your recent play really is full of contradictions. Can you explain your way out of this?

On August 17 2013 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Clarity is misrepresenting me.
I did not accuse him before he got angry and answered with "i do not care to check and i do not remember".
After that you asked me if i think he is mafia and i said yes. Not before that.

On August 17 2013 20:57 Clarity_nl wrote:


You asked me who had a scumread on me d1. Why the fuck would I even bother figuring out that answer for you

If this is the question you referred to, then why did you first say I didn't answer it, and then said that I DID answer it but I'm not telling the truth (the truth is apparently NOT that I don't remember nor care to look)

On August 17 2013 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ffs i was having an argument with Clarity, then he decided he wants to stop the argument when i am not done. With saying "i do not care and don't remember".

It's another thing if we are both town and just think differently, but if you think i am scum because i was trying to have an argument with someone and they start insulting me + fall back from the argument and because i think they are scum because of that you are being ridiculous-.