EPTGoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 191
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Dandel Ion
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Dandel Ion
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 17 2013 19:57 Dandel Ion wrote: snb is scum because he didn't get modkilled for posting a wall of text during the night. also the wall of text was terrible, but it's mainly the not-being-modkilled part. discuss. It was a pm meant for me, not alignment indicative. The only thing I suppose you can take from this is that snb and I are not both scum, or we send eachother fake scumhunt pms. host wifom is the worst wifom. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
So we have another redcheck. There's a small chance (like less than 10%) that Mocsta was framed or something, but in all likeliness one of Sharrant or Mocsta is scum and must be lynched today. Mocsta should definitely be our lynch for today out of these two for a couple of reasons: 1) jrkirby's scummy play 2) Mocsta's nullish play 3) Sharrant's earlier redcheck success 4) I can also somewhat understand Sharrant's lacking playstyle if he is a permanent Cop (to avoid KP) 5) Mocsta's first reaction was "this is interesting" and give up, not to assume being framed or that Sharrant is scum - seriously...? What went down in our House can basically be predicted from my last thread posts before deadline. I think I could have been able to convince Grackaroni to vote for me, but I still had some uncertainty about his alignment and wanted to see how he would use his status today (PMs + vote + KP etc.). I was also pretty certain I would die anyway (looks like I didn't) and I liked his thoughts during N3, leading me just to vote for him. This crusade against Onegu by rayn is pretty pointless. Clarity had a good point when he said that by rayn's logic, Clarity is also scum. So rayn, is he? If not, why is Onegu scum? If you can't answer, are you just scum and flinging shit for no real reason? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos yes he is. He stopped answering when there are no good answers for him any more. I'm 99% sure Clarity is town. Maybe 80% sure that Onegu is town. It's also not a town mindset to bluehunt instead of scumhunt (like you seem to focus). If someone doesn't seem to be playing that townish, the first thought should be "scum", not "blue", unless you're scum of course. It's also completely stupid to assume that only people who pushed someone in the thread could have roleblocked someone. So I don't really see any value in your accusations. | ||
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Dandel Ion
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:11 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm inclined to lynch sharrant over mocsta atm. Is it really that hard for you to not only post your conclusion, but also your thought process? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:09 Xatalos wrote: I'm 99% sure Clarity is town. Maybe 80% sure that Onegu is town. It's also not a town mindset to bluehunt instead of scumhunt (like you seem to focus). If someone doesn't seem to be playing that townish, the first thought should be "scum", not "blue", unless you're scum of course. It's also completely stupid to assume that only people who pushed someone in the thread could have roleblocked someone. So I don't really see any value in your accusations. Clarity is not even reading the thread as i have clearly pointed out. Why do you think he is town? Also Onegu, why? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If that's somehow true you are bad. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:12 Clarity_nl wrote: Is it really that hard for you to not only post your conclusion, but also your thought process? yes but i'll try: flipped scum in sharrant's house: 0 flipped scum in mocsta's house: 1 | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
1) posted against the rules and didn't vote -> no modkill - more likely scum than town based on how hosts usually act or 2) intentionally voted for himself - more likely scum than town based on you pretty clearly being town and still denying your House a Lord intentionally What do you think? | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:15 Dandel Ion wrote: yes but i'll try: flipped scum in sharrant's house: 0 flipped scum in mocsta's house: 1 That's a VERY weak reason. It's in no way guaranteed (or even more likely than not) that there is scum in every House. It's all random. Any other reasoning? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity is not even reading the thread as i have clearly pointed out. Why do you think he is town? Also Onegu, why? ............................................................................................. I've asked twice now what I haven't answered........ Like really, I don't see it. Tell me so I can answer, perhaps? Holy fuck. You did this whole "I advise you to read d3 now because I'm about to nail you as scum" and then your following post was "did you really not answer risen in pms? And why did you not vote vivax immediately when he claimed!!" Like.... wtf are you doing rayn. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Please detail why my play is nullish. When u were saying it was leaning townish yesterday. Why is me saying. This is interesting alignment indicative? U have been a voice of reason all game. So I am sure that u should be able to easily justify your position. Lastly. Why have you not commented on the interplay with rayn | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:15 Xatalos wrote: By the way Clarity, considering that snb both 1) posted when he wasn't allowed to 2) presumably didn't vote at all, it doesn't make sense that he wouldn't be modkilled. DI has a slight point in that it's more likely for scum to avoid a modkill in this situation. Or let's put it this way: 1) posted against the rules and didn't vote -> no modkill - more likely scum than town based on how hosts usually act or 2) intentionally voted for himself - more likely scum than town based on you pretty clearly being town and still denying your House a Lord intentionally What do you think? I think that I really don't like host wifom. I dunno what happened with the vote yet, but I can easily see a scenario where snb got flustered because of fucking up and posting in thread and therefore didn't send his lord vote. I didn't remind him, either. Obviously that's not my job but normally I would have. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Clarity is not even reading the thread as i have clearly pointed out. Why do you think he is town? Also Onegu, why? It's cliche to say "for PM reasons" but they were the two most active and open Lords in PM contact with me yesterday. Or Onegu not as much, but there was a pretty weird episode in our conversation that didn't feel like it would come from scum. Basically just overall transparency and a good, interested attitude in solving the game (certainly the case with Clarity, somewhat the case with Onegu). Clarity was also very interested in lynching Vivax. It didn't feel fake at all... I mean like no hesitation about going for him. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:17 Clarity_nl wrote: ............................................................................................. I've asked twice now what I haven't answered........ Like really, I don't see it. Tell me so I can answer, perhaps? Holy fuck. You did this whole "I advise you to read d3 now because I'm about to nail you as scum" and then your following post was "did you really not answer risen in pms? And why did you not vote vivax immediately when he claimed!!" Like.... wtf are you doing rayn. I don't need to make a case on you, it'll come on later. Now we are murdering Mocsta. You stopped giving me answers when i talked about the town roleblovker stuff and who did you think were suspicious of you on D1. Well, you did "answer", but i do not believe you are telling the truth because i think you are mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 17 2013 20:22 Xatalos wrote: It's cliche to say "for PM reasons" but they were the two most active and open Lords in PM contact with me yesterday. Or Onegu not as much, but there was a pretty weird episode in our conversation that didn't feel like it would come from scum. Basically just overall transparency and a good, interested attitude in solving the game (certainly the case with Clarity, somewhat the case with Onegu). Clarity was also very interested in lynching Vivax. It didn't feel fake at all... I mean like no hesitation about going for him. Wow. Xatalos. Explain. Clarity was interested in lynching SnB over Vivax. | ||
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