EPTReasons for it after the night, I found something else in your filter that's pretty damning.
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Vivax
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Reasons for it after the night, I found something else in your filter that's pretty damning. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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raynpelikoneet
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hzflank
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Clarity_nl
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Vivax
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I used to be such a pain in the ass as town. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Would be impressive though. I didn't give xrz enough credit for his day1 towniness btw | ||
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FirmTofu
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 30 2013 06:23 Vivax wrote: I alwasy go awww when people ask for me to be docced. I used to be such a pain in the ass as town. You still are. But Oats is much more. :D | ||
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Vivax
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On July 28 2013 14:29 Malongo wrote: Sparrow pfff another smurf. So far in the inactive players I see 5. raynpelikoneet 7. Malongo 9. Stutters695 In the hyper-activity side I see: 1. Oatsmaster 4. IMCaptainJackSparrow 10. hzflank 14. exarezee Everyone else is meh-activity wise. So far my best pick is hzflank I really didnt like this post from hzflank: The think about starting the day lynching a lurker is to force the players to post and force the mafia to make mistakes. I rather start the day forcing lurkers to post than "looking for 2/3 wagons" earlier. Earlier wagons are more likely to be town (in my experience) and the lurker lynching stays aside. Trying to get early wagons is also a good way to close the fence early wich help the mafia more than the town. His vote so far on Paperscraps is really weak and when I read his filter I found it really reactive (or defensive as he put it). ##Vote: hzflank Id be happy to lynch CJS for no reason too ( I just hate attention-smurfs ). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On July 30 2013 06:26 Vivax wrote: I have a question, what point is there in Malongo sorting people activity wise at all? It doesn't have any relevance for his conclusion. He could simply tell what he doesn't like about hzflank, instead he feels like posting some fancy summary before he does that. Read NWM for example. Malongo did nothing but post useless lists early on and he was town. If you read I swear 2, he was pretty inconsistant throughout D1. He does dumb stuff at least as town, dunno if that´s the case if he is mafia. | ||
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hzflank
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Conclusion is that the case is not strong enough to stick if Clarity is scum. It might stick if Clarity is town but that's pointless anyway. The case needs to be strengthened to be useful. I like the technical nature of the case. Vivax obviously put some work into it and I had never thought to look at a case in that way before. The problem is that town sometimes write cases in that way also. Particularly at the start of day 1 when Clarity made that case. If Clarity had made that case on Tofu on day 2 then it would look a lot more like scum. At the start of day 1 you do not really expect cases to be good or to really stick. It was probably a case to get a reaction. I would not want to vote on Clarity based on Vivax's case. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 30 2013 06:27 Clarity_nl wrote: I dunno Vivax, if only I mentioned that in my case on him SHUT UP SCUM. STOP PROFANATING THIS THREAD WITH YOUR NEFARIOUS PRESENCE. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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On July 30 2013 06:28 Vivax wrote: SHUT UP SCUM. STOP PROFANATING THIS THREAD WITH YOUR NEFARIOUS PRESENCE. sorreh But you're posting your case before d2, yeah? | ||
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hzflank
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On July 30 2013 06:26 Vivax wrote: I have a question, what point is there in Malongo sorting people activity wise at all? It doesn't have any relevance for his conclusion. He could simply tell what he doesn't like about hzflank, instead he feels like posting some fancy summary before he does that. I don't know if you think this helps, but the only person that Malongo has pushed as being scum is me, and I think that Malongo is likely town. I can understand him making that read on me from a town point of view, as long as I make a few small assumptions about his personality and experience. I think there is more chance that Malongo just needs more experience than there is of Malongo being scum. Either way, he is not a good lynch target for day 2. | ||
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Vivax
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Stutters695
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Because I'm phone posting use this page of FTs filter for reference I'll be referring to then by numbers(post 4 is the list, if Paper flips green #5 etc) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720&user=FirmTofu¤tpage=5 First, everything before the deadline time is pretty much discussed to death. If needed/requested I can show people why that's scummy but I don't really think it's necessary. Anyway post #5 is where I'm starting. This post originally stood out to me because it looked like a scum slip (saying they were town and I misread it out of context of the quote because of how hectic it was). Not quite as damning as I thought, but after seeing Paper's flip, this is bad. Scum tofu knows Paper is going to flip green and his only other reads are on huge lynchbait+ myself. This gives him an out to avoid only pushing the easy cases scum love so much. Yes I'm aware this section is based off of the assumption he is scum, but here is what planted that thought. Read post 4, 6, and 10. Of his three scum reads in post 4 & 6 (other than paper), suddenly none of them are scum. Two of them I addressed why above but the most damming IMO is how he drops me from his scum reads for no explained reason. I was scum because I "popped in to vote me(tofu)". Now look at his new XRZ, Rayn, and Hz reads. He dropped a read with justification(albeit wrong) on me and replaced that with "reads" that say they've been playing town but he's going to look into them and they're slightly scummy. That is not town hunting scum. That's someone telling the thread what they want to hear to push his own agenda. | ||
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hzflank
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On July 30 2013 06:35 Vivax wrote: Hzflank, if I had the ability to vig stutters right now, would you agree on it? Hmm, depends if I knew if there was actually a doc on you. I would prefer a Vig to save his shot until day 2 because I have an awesome conspiracy theory. So if you will 100% survive the night I would ask you to save the shot  If you had to fire now then I would not be against a shot on Stutters as he has a reasonable chance of being scum. I think that JAT has a higher chance of flipping scum, but Stutters is up there. If Stutters flipped red then I would want to lynch JAT next anyway though, so I would say just shoot JAT instead. | ||
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