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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:35 Vivax wrote: Hzflank, if I had the ability to vig stutters right now, would you agree on it? I know you aren't asking me, but this sounds like a great idea. Stutters has been scummy all game and his play isn't improving. His posts around the lynch worry me greatly. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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Vivax
22396 Posts
How could I be so blind. What the fuck is this. On July 29 2013 08:48 FirmTofu wrote: 7. Malongo On July 29 2013 08:50 FirmTofu wrote: If paper flips green, I'm not sure what to think. I'm pretty sure that you and Malongo are town though. malongo - scum for buddying. hz wagon is just a way to push off votes from paper to someone else. | ||
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Vivax
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
Second quote was referring to if Paper flipped town. Two completely different scenarios. | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:39 hzflank wrote: Hmm, depends if I knew if there was actually a doc on you. I would prefer a Vig to save his shot until day 2 because I have an awesome conspiracy theory. So if you will 100% survive the night I would ask you to save the shot  If you had to fire now then I would not be against a shot on Stutters as he has a reasonable chance of being scum. I think that JAT has a higher chance of flipping scum, but Stutters is up there. If Stutters flipped red then I would want to lynch JAT next anyway though, so I would say just shoot JAT instead. Mind explaining? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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Vivax
22396 Posts
I fell for the usual scumslip bias. Can you explain something to me nontheless? On July 30 2013 06:25 FirmTofu wrote: I'm not sure if I missed something. Can someone explain to me how and why rayn has a town read on Koshi and Vivax now? What about the Koshi part did you find worthy of explanation since Rayn seems to have reached the same conclusion as you? On July 30 2013 06:39 hzflank wrote: Hmm, depends if I knew if there was actually a doc on you. I would prefer a Vig to save his shot until day 2 because I have an awesome conspiracy theory. So if you will 100% survive the night I would ask you to save the shot If you had to fire now then I would not be against a shot on Stutters as he has a reasonable chance of being scum. I think that JAT has a higher chance of flipping scum, but Stutters is up there. If Stutters flipped red then I would want to lynch JAT next anyway though, so I would say just shoot JAT instead. I'm not vig, being honest. I wanted to claim I'd shoot Vayne so the mofo would get scared and start posting, but I assumed it was night vig. Can you explain the bolded to me though? Do you auto-assume that stutters would flip red if shot? | ||
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Vivax
22396 Posts
Scumslip city tonight. Shoot JAT instead cause stutters would flip red and then I'd want to lynch JAT anyway. Are you high HZ? | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:51 Vivax wrote: OKAY TOFU. I fell for the usual scumslip bias. Can you explain something to me nontheless? What about the Koshi part did you find worthy of explanation since Rayn seems to have reached the same conclusion as you? Sure, rayn had a scum read on Koshi pre-flip when he was "99% sure Paper was town". Therefore, his read on Koshi should not have changed based on the flip, right? I didn't see any post in particular that warranted such a drastic shift from rayn so I'm asking if anyone can procure the post that changed his mind. | ||
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Vivax
22396 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:54 FirmTofu wrote: Sure, rayn had a scum read on Koshi pre-flip when he was "99% sure Paper was town". Therefore, his read on Koshi should not have changed based on the flip, right? I didn't see any post in particular that warranted such a drastic shift from rayn so I'm asking if anyone can procure the post that changed his mind. That's a good question. Upon rereading this night's posts of Rayn, I don't see what happened to his Koshi scumread | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:00 Vivax wrote: That's a good question. Upon rereading this night's posts of Rayn, I don't see what happened to his Koshi scumread IF ONLY SOMEONE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER, I DUNNO You're kind of starting to annoy me Vivax, although I'm glad that you're trying hard | ||
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Vivax
22396 Posts
Especially when me and the town push you off the ship. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:03 Vivax wrote: You better get ready to be annoyed a lot more Clarity. Especially when me and the town push you off the ship. Give it your best shot baby. Or you know, don't, cause I'm town. | ||
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Vivax
22396 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:05 Clarity_nl wrote: Give it your best shot baby. Or you know, don't, cause I'm town. Yea sure. I'm sure town feels like shouting how townie they are during the phase where scum picks their targets. You can't fool me broski. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
I don't think that your take on Koshi and I comes from a town perspective. It does not appear to be a scum-scum relationship in the slightest and I think that you know something that I do not. Look at the very first conversation that I had with Koshi here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422720¤tpage=34#661 That is not scum-scum. Even if you argue that the later day 1 conversation was, the night conversation was not. If you are going to make such a wild claim then either I need to understand how you arrived at that position or I think that you are scum. On day 1 you were pressured and with the way the game went it turned out that a large number of people defended you by proxy (including me). If we were to Vig one of those people such as Stutters and they were to flip red then I would still think that you are scum and I would still want to lynch you. By the way, regarding Koshi and me: It is going to be a mess on day 2. Regardless of his alignment he is going to push hard at me and I am going to have to make a series of long and possibly boring posts and everyone is going to wish that we would both just stop posting. This is not a scum-scum thing. | ||
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Stutters695
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On July 30 2013 07:06 Vivax wrote: Yea sure. I'm sure town feels like shouting how townie they are during the phase where scum picks their targets. You can't fool me broski. With you doing this I'm obviously not getting nightkilled you dumbass. This feels like Mario Mini where I was obvtown, people called me obvtown, and then suddenly random townies made cases on me d3 and I died. Make your damn case so I can explain why you're an idiot and you can move on to better things. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On July 30 2013 06:51 Vivax wrote: Can you explain the bolded to me though? Do you auto-assume that stutters would flip red if shot? I think that Stutters would probably flip red, but if I approach it in that order then I am setting myself up for a big fail. Attempting to name the entire scum team when we have no scum flips is foolish, but if I did so then Stutters would be in there. I would prefer to go one step at a time. | ||
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