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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
On August 05 2013 03:31 Gotard wrote: I'm cop. Checked RDO and he's scum. This is the only thing that throws me off. However, in a way it makes sense. Gotard feels he is going to be lynched. In his last moments he says this to throw town off the tail of RDO. | ||
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:43 Umasi wrote: nightcat is just confirmed not scum, could still be sk. Won't pursue that avenue of logic atm :< it's not relevant Oh my bad you're right. | ||
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:43 Umasi wrote: nightcat is just confirmed not scum, could still be sk. Won't pursue that avenue of logic atm :< it's not relevant Actually just found this: the Sk "can and must kill one person every night". He can't be sk. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
but it doesn't really matter, he's more likely actually the vig. | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:43 Umasi wrote: nightcat is just confirmed not scum, could still be sk. Won't pursue that avenue of logic atm :< it's not relevant sk has to shoot every night...... | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
vote #RDaneelOlivaw | ||
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DeusXmachina
United States333 Posts
On August 06 2013 05:40 DeusXmachina wrote: I think it has got to be RDO man. Nightcat is 100 percent confirmed town. Both you and slam voted with infii pretty early on Gotard. You even seemed like you wanted a scam lynch at one point. RDO is the only one that didn't vote against Gotard. He was absent pre-lynch. He lurked hard at the beginning of the game. I think I over-thought my Zyrre read way to much. This seems simple though. It has got to be RDO. ##Vote RDaneelOlivaw Uggh I fucking suck at this game. I shouldn't be so hasty to vote RDO. He did take a pretty convincing stance against Gotard. However he ultimately move on to Umasi and didn't end up voting against Gotard. On August 06 2013 06:15 Nightcat99 wrote: anyway i am going to vote #RDaneelOlivaw Nightcat99 can you elaborate on stance against RDO. I think I might be biased because of my early suspicion of him. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
Well if you read this I'm already dead now. Luckily, as I already claimed truthfully, I'm mason and my partner stim (who is confirmed now) will post this text for me. I will go over everyone still alive and explain my thoughts so far. With gotard and scam now lynched and killed as scum I were positive on 66% of my reads so far. As for Umasi, I'm still not clear of him, although he was the first one to vote gotard which makes him look pretty much town. Null read RDO, who was mentioned on several suspicious posts against him, was voted from gotard. Now that we know gotard was scum, it is less likely for RDO to also be scum because you usually don't vote on a scum partner as scum. Of course gotard could also have played a deceptive game to trick us into think exactly this but I doubt that, resembling sc_am's overall playstyle. Slightly town DeusX came pretty late yesterday but started immediately pressing on zyrre to vote gotard, like really hard. If he is scum that was pretty awesome play. That's why he is off my scum list for now. Pretty much town Stim is obviously mason, nothing to discuss here. town Slam was mostly supportive and helpful but still direct and brisk to suspicious characters. If you put the random talk aside it is not really hard to understand him. I think he got a pretty good understanding of the game and what is going on. Also I will salute him for his play if he actually is scum. Pretty much town Zyrre pretty much ignored the approaching deadline for a lynch and risked a possible no-lynch, which would be pretty bad as we know now. The cop claim logic from umasi convinced him then to switch votes, which is a reasonable argument. Overall he still acted anti-town with his behavior only because he was so sure about his reads. One could understand his thought process from town perspective but he still acted selfish, which is anti-town at that point of time. So even if he is town, with that kind of play I think he would still be the best candidate for lynch. Scum until proven wrong Nightcat's logic on the mason case was weird. (quote) If you reread it, I also faked suspicion on stim, because he didn't write for a long time and didn't know how to use the QT. And it was the only reasonable thing to do if you don't want to reveal your connection. As zyrre pointed out, he did vote pretty late against gotard, although he had a town read on gotard as he said before that, which seems fishy. Slightly scum Good luck hunting the last of the scum! -indigo jones | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
RDaneelOlivaw (3): Umasi, DeusXmachina, Nightcat99 Deadline is in ~ 46 hours. With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. Currently no one is set to be lynched! Voting is mandatory! Only votes in the voting thread will be counted! The voting thread can be found here. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
And stim haha, because he was just a mouthpiece for infii there. | ||
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StiMaDDict
Korea (South)313 Posts
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
I want to hear YOUR thoughts haha Like, I'm kind of angry that you've been so not around, forty some hours of not posting. ~but me being angry at you is certainly nothing new :< | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
Honestly i was pretty confident at my read on zyraa, but apparently i am an idiot. as far as rdo go, his reasoning for not vote switch was this On August 05 2013 07:18 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: FUCK. I was at the card shop for a magic sealed event and my phone died, which is why I couldn't switch when we went for gotard. Sorry guys, yes that looks scummy as hell. As for why I stayed on Umasi earlier--we had 3? votes for him and there was no real consensus, I just didn't switch bc it to seemed silly to just keep throwing around the vote until we had decided who to knock out....is what it is, not much else I can say. Obviously you all will still be suspicious, not much else I can do besides playing well from here on out anyway....I'll go back through again and read the last pages, see what happened His untimely demise of phone battery, His careful explination of having 3 votes when he last check, (which is not something i would check, until dead line.) I usually just throw a vote on and in the last hour, check to make sure we are lynching someone. Plus i have always had a gut scum read on RDO, his early absents, then he comes back just when suspicious was building on him, and his many fluffy post of not posting a single read as of now. I am going to stick with this vote for now. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
On August 06 2013 08:23 Nightcat99 wrote: @deus Honestly i was pretty confident at my read on zyraa, but apparently i am an idiot. as far as rdo go, his reasoning for not vote switch was this His untimely demise of phone battery, His careful explination of having 3 votes when he last check, (which is not something i would check, until dead line.) I usually just throw a vote on and in the last hour, check to make sure we are lynching someone. Plus i have always had a gut scum read on RDO, his early absents, then he comes back just when suspicious was building on him, and his many fluffy post of not posting a single read as of now. I am going to stick with this vote for now. I do keep track of those sort of things. I've been keeping up on the thread and if you notice, I was posting in the morning just before so I had read up Where does this idea that I haven't posted any reads come from? I was actually the one first made a real case for suspicion against Gotard, and I was very vocal on my opinions of Usami. I've posted plenty of my own reads. At any rate, last night kind of fucked up what I thought again. Stim are confirmed town Slam is playing a really strong town game--that being said- why has he not been lynched? Seems like he would have been a great target for mafia-he would be playing a wild joker game, but he seems like that sort of guy..he is the best and mosts experienced player here.just something worth thinking about That leaves Deus and Umasi Still a little suspicious of Umasi--his play to go after scam may have been an attempt to put his name in the clear by getting rid of a lurker and also spearheading a charge to kill a fellow mafia member. Dues--I have a decent townread on him Nightcat--he may be town, but he is not confirmed not-scum either, but there are a number of important possibilities to consider- namely Mafia tried to kill jaded salesman first night, or someone who was saved by the doctor the first night. They would know that their kill was blocked and there IS a serial killer- fact is, he is still my strongest scum read Look at this post again+ Show Spoiler + On August 03 2013 04:28 Nightcat99 wrote: The if i die post. First thing first, i think stim and infil is mason team. but that puts me in a blind, cause i am not seeing the scum team. So i have 2 scenario for everyone to think about. First the far more likely situation, Zyrre , DeusXmachina, RDaneelOlivaw and slam slam because he jump in on the vote on rep to try to save the day. RDaneelOlivaw still have not post a orginial through, he has been more active, but still no opinion of his own. Deus repeat claim of lynch a bad townie is not bad is a strange claim, but other then that i dont have much to add then what other have said. Zyrre is kind of null actually, he just doesnt seem that pro town. And now my far less likely conspiracy theories Umasi and Slam is scum team. Umasi jump off the wagon on rep, because he coordinate with slam that slam will secure the lynch. Umasi has to know that infil cannot be lynch at this point, he just jump off the wagon for a second because he knows when rep flips, hes going to look pro town and slam will secure the lynch. Not only completely wrong, but the reasoning is exceptionally weak. 1 liners and no quotes about his scum reads--it is more of a post because he has to and to shift suspicion than anything else. Also, an "if I die" post? He's clearly trying to play up the possibility of his being murdered. Why? Everybody has the chance, why make such a big deal of it? To associate himself with town as much as possible + Show Spoiler + On August 04 2013 02:15 Nightcat99 wrote: Ok my stand so far. Zyuree is posting less and less, coming in to post 1 line and say he will post 5 hours ago and then disappear. Sc_am is completely gone, if hes not modkill i will be surprise, so i wont waste a vote on him. Umasi is defending himself decently but that vote change is still sucipious or mainly just pisses me off but i need more time to decide who to vote. Orginially i through you two were mason brothers because of these 2 post but hten i reread your filter and saw the next line. This means you are not mason, so stim trusting you is not enough, i want to know why you are so sure. Rdo came back to play which is good, but i cant drop the feeling that hes just pushing people every one is pushing and i just dont have much of a town feel on him. Gotard come back to vote umasi, when they were both associated as scum team, do you guys feel like this is a method to not be caught together, gotard does feel kind of pro town to me this game so i am having some doubts. i am getting pro town reads on everyone else and have not seen anything i want to point out on them. + Show Spoiler + Above, he tries the very low-profile defense of Gotard. First states he is pretty sure that he's town, then questions why everyone is voting for him. Just enough to call into question the vote against Gotard and try to help Gotard's defense without drawing signifcant attention to himself. He doesn't join on the suspicion of Gotard until the last minute, when it becomes apparent that Gotard is going to be lynched. Also important to note is that his posts are almost entirely fluff. Most are 1 or 2 liners making some minor comment to show his presence in the thread (or to ask slam for an opinion, which he does a lot of ) without drawing attention. He's largely failed to level significant accusations (he's only posted them twice?), and the one's he has made he has not gone after aggressively. He posts them and then lets it go, leading me to believe that once again, he was posting them to blend in, not to actually make strong cases. On August 04 2013 14:15 Nightcat99 wrote: sc_am wont making pass the night, justice will be brought down by BH or other source. Probably nothing, but "another source"---that's a pretty confident statement | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Now, do you know what Zyrre and Indio both die means? SK We are forgetting about SK He is on our side though :D Here are my thoughts: DeusXmachina is probably Town or SK. I think Nightcat may be SK. RDO, likely scum or SK. Stim obv town. Umasi may not be obv town but yeah. Next lynch RDO, should we fail we will probably know, but lets us all powwow and figure it out. | ||
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
On August 06 2013 04:56 Nightcat99 wrote: I think Zyraa is scum and Rdo could be town or 3p I am grey hat, i shoot Zyraa tonight, if i die and the game isnt over lynch rdo. i think we win... | ||
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Nightcat99
United States239 Posts
On August 06 2013 09:14 RDaneelOlivaw wrote: I do keep track of those sort of things. I've been keeping up on the thread and if you notice, I was posting in the morning just before so I had read up Where does this idea that I haven't posted any reads come from? I was actually the one first made a real case for suspicion against Gotard, and I was very vocal on my opinions of Usami. I've posted plenty of my own reads. At any rate, last night kind of fucked up what I thought again. Stim are confirmed town Slam is playing a really strong town game--that being said- why has he not been lynched? Seems like he would have been a great target for mafia-he would be playing a wild joker game, but he seems like that sort of guy..he is the best and mosts experienced player here.just something worth thinking about That leaves Deus and Umasi Still a little suspicious of Umasi--his play to go after scam may have been an attempt to put his name in the clear by getting rid of a lurker and also spearheading a charge to kill a fellow mafia member. Dues--I have a decent townread on him Nightcat--he may be town, but he is not confirmed not-scum either, but there are a number of important possibilities to consider- namely Mafia tried to kill jaded salesman first night, or someone who was saved by the doctor the first night. They would know that their kill was blocked and there IS a serial killer- fact is, he is still my strongest scum read Look at this post again+ Show Spoiler + On August 03 2013 04:28 Nightcat99 wrote: The if i die post. First thing first, i think stim and infil is mason team. but that puts me in a blind, cause i am not seeing the scum team. So i have 2 scenario for everyone to think about. First the far more likely situation, Zyrre , DeusXmachina, RDaneelOlivaw and slam slam because he jump in on the vote on rep to try to save the day. RDaneelOlivaw still have not post a orginial through, he has been more active, but still no opinion of his own. Deus repeat claim of lynch a bad townie is not bad is a strange claim, but other then that i dont have much to add then what other have said. Zyrre is kind of null actually, he just doesnt seem that pro town. And now my far less likely conspiracy theories Umasi and Slam is scum team. Umasi jump off the wagon on rep, because he coordinate with slam that slam will secure the lynch. Umasi has to know that infil cannot be lynch at this point, he just jump off the wagon for a second because he knows when rep flips, hes going to look pro town and slam will secure the lynch. Not only completely wrong, but the reasoning is exceptionally weak. 1 liners and no quotes about his scum reads--it is more of a post because he has to and to shift suspicion than anything else. Also, an "if I die" post? He's clearly trying to play up the possibility of his being murdered. Why? Everybody has the chance, why make such a big deal of it? To associate himself with town as much as possible + Show Spoiler + On August 04 2013 02:15 Nightcat99 wrote: Ok my stand so far. Zyuree is posting less and less, coming in to post 1 line and say he will post 5 hours ago and then disappear. Sc_am is completely gone, if hes not modkill i will be surprise, so i wont waste a vote on him. Umasi is defending himself decently but that vote change is still sucipious or mainly just pisses me off but i need more time to decide who to vote. Orginially i through you two were mason brothers because of these 2 post but hten i reread your filter and saw the next line. This means you are not mason, so stim trusting you is not enough, i want to know why you are so sure. Rdo came back to play which is good, but i cant drop the feeling that hes just pushing people every one is pushing and i just dont have much of a town feel on him. Gotard come back to vote umasi, when they were both associated as scum team, do you guys feel like this is a method to not be caught together, gotard does feel kind of pro town to me this game so i am having some doubts. i am getting pro town reads on everyone else and have not seen anything i want to point out on them. + Show Spoiler + Above, he tries the very low-profile defense of Gotard. First states he is pretty sure that he's town, then questions why everyone is voting for him. Just enough to call into question the vote against Gotard and try to help Gotard's defense without drawing signifcant attention to himself. He doesn't join on the suspicion of Gotard until the last minute, when it becomes apparent that Gotard is going to be lynched. Also important to note is that his posts are almost entirely fluff. Most are 1 or 2 liners making some minor comment to show his presence in the thread (or to ask slam for an opinion, which he does a lot of ) without drawing attention. He's largely failed to level significant accusations (he's only posted them twice?), and the one's he has made he has not gone after aggressively. He posts them and then lets it go, leading me to believe that once again, he was posting them to blend in, not to actually make strong cases. Probably nothing, but "another source"---that's a pretty confident statement Great and long case, except that i claimed to shoot zyraa before the night ends, which is the part the you accidentally skipped | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Ooooooo..... | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
some random day in August RDO wrote: Slam is playing a really strong town game--that being said- why has he not been lynched? Seems like he would have been a great target for mafia-he would be playing a wild joker game, but he seems like that sort of guy..he is the best and mosts experienced player here.just something worth thinking about HTHDTH? I wasn't lynched because town thinketh I'm town I haven't a clue in the slightest why I haven't been nk'ed. Maybe because On July 30 2013 07:18 Alakaslam wrote: This is how I have rolled every TL game Basically Told the scum team that I'm totes vt, therefore not as worth killin as dem bloos That or OMGIS is actually true and u testin dem waters b cuz best chance I desire read the  ppl qt | ||
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