Newbie Mini Mafia XLV - Page 59

On August 05 2013 01:38 Zyrre wrote:
Calling all townies, less then 3.5hours left until lynch

We need EVERYONE to vote on the same person, at this time most of us seem to agree on Umasi.

##unvote DeusXmachina
##vote Umasi

My suspicion for third member of scum team is also Alakaslam.
Due to his very weak suspicions of Umasi (similar to DeusX, explained in my wall of text) and then switching to Gotard, together with Umasi, stating only "I dont like who is voting on the same person as me".

When I called on people to vote Umasi or convince me of Gotard in my last post he instead called me scummy, stated his vote was set and went afk.

Not very strong implications on their own, if Umasi flips red I would guess him though. We will have to see.

On August 05 2013 02:42 DeusXmachina wrote:
Good Quote Here
He is saying that generally speaking mafia try to blend in. More often than not that is their mindset. I would rather use that as a reason to be suspicious then the flip side, mafia being very active and aggressive to appear pro town. Umasi was one of the first ones to vote against reps, you could call that an aggressive play. At times he was one of the most outspoken individuals against reps, and at others he seemed to think reps was just a bad townie. His indecision is not scummy. Rather, it just means he couldn't make up his mind, and rightfully so because reps turned out to be town. In addition, Umasi has done several other things to draw attention to himself, for example, he vote-switched last minute and didn't really give a good reason why, and he has been inconsistent at times. I see this is a townie mindset. Townies are the ones who should be inconsistent right? They are constantly trying to analyze scum reads. Scum reads are highly subject to change. Again, think of the flip side. If you are a scum and you want to push an agenda, maybe even get someone mislynched, what would you have to gain from indecision? Not only would it draw attention to yourself, but it would weaken your agenda. For these reasons, I am not voting against Umasi. I was suspicious of him for early game, yes, but that vote switch got me thinking. The more I thought about the vote switch the more it seemed like a townie thing to do. I realize if Umasi is scum I will be boned, but can you really blame me for thinking this way? If Umasi is scum than maddddd props to him.

I have already expressed my suspicion of Gotard. I agree with what others have said. I am not going to make a huge case against him right now because I feel like I would be regurgitating a lot of information. At this point in time he is the best candidate to vote for because he appears scummy and is most likely to be lynched. We can probably count on a Stim vote against him right?

On August 05 2013 04:45 Zyrre wrote:
Wee zergling

On August 05 2013 04:50 DeusXmachina wrote:


What the fuck Gotard.

On August 05 2013 04:51 Gotard wrote:

RDO is scum. No lynch is fucking terrible.

On August 05 2013 04:56 infii wrote:
As a reminder, I already said that I am against posting during night, that is why I won't post anything, until the next day (if I survive)

On August 05 2013 05:01 Umasi wrote:


he might get replaced, but certainly not by reps

On August 02 2013 02:19 Nightcat99 wrote:
Ya slam, i dont think jumping on sc_am is the best idea, to be honest, he probably getting mod killed.

On August 04 2013 02:15 Nightcat99 wrote:
Sc_am is completely gone, if hes not modkill i will be surprise, so i wont waste a vote on him.

On August 04 2013 12:51 Nightcat99 wrote:



Why are you guys voting gotard???

On August 04 2013 13:51 Nightcat99 wrote:


you are going to have to explain this to me, isnt this your quote, what did gotard do?

On August 04 2013 13:55 Nightcat99 wrote:
Ya i agree that vote on infil was odd too and i try to pressure him a little on it.

but i generally dont think scum wants to start a wagon but gotard try to start a wagon on infil, so i just through it was a rash decision.

On August 04 2013 13:58 Nightcat99 wrote:
i dont think scam is a scum but hes difently not voting thats laves 9 people with 3 scum and we need 6 to lynch, this will be a close call.

On August 04 2013 14:13 Nightcat99 wrote:
so slam , assuming only one of them is a scum for umasi and gotard.

And you have to pick two other people to lynch right now, who would you pick.

On August 05 2013 02:54 Nightcat99 wrote:
I think i am going to have to push gotard too , i am still complete convince that umasi is not scum but his respond is reasonable enough for me for now, i still think its a dumb move, but its probably a dumb town move, and gotard hasnt really say much since the pressure, and his original vote on infil is odd.

#vote gotard.

On August 04 2013 13:56 Nightcat99 wrote:
i keep looking at the voting threat and i keep feeling like we wont get a lynch, and i will be piss off if we dont.

On August 04 2013 14:25 Nightcat99 wrote:
last game i only have a few people i through was scummy, ( i was completely wrong but atleast there was only a few people)

This game, i wont be surprise that you are all scums and i am playing alone.

There is so many non talkative people in this game, its so hard to get a read.

On August 02 2013 08:37 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Also, I think we need to be careful in how we deal with scam...we really should have taken him out instead of reps. Since we misfired on reps, if we go after scam and he is also a townie we are in some pretty hot water, down 4 townies with little to show. I think its important for us to be pressing more active players, then we can deal with him later if we can get on top of the game

On August 02 2013 08:53 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
I'm posting because I got home from work again :p. See my post earlier :p I agree we should pressure him a bit, but I don't think its a good idea to be spending our second lynch on him. Someone said earlier in the thread (you I think)? That you can't get a good read either way on the player if they don't post. So we'd be basically taking a complete shot in the dark. If we are wrong, I think we are in pretty serious trouble (maybe I'm wrong, haven't played this before...) with 3 mafia left, and what, 4 townies and one of the neutrals? I think we would be better off trying to identify more likely mafia that we have reasons for suspecting and trying to nail them down. If we make a strong lynch push for scam what are we going to learn

On August 02 2013 09:03 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Hmmm. I didn't see that he voted no-lynch....that's definitely suspicious.

Why the fuck would he throw himself out there like that though? Given that he doesn't seem to care enough to play the game, it could very well be a total newbie mistake. We had 4-5 people wondering why to lynch day 1 earlier.

Even if he is mafia, it's a totally boneheaded move. Like I said about Umasi's withdrawal before, its a bad move for either townie or mafia.

On August 02 2013 09:09 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
My main point is I think he's just a bad player who has no clue what the hell he's doing. Like me!!! Does he look scum? Yeah, there's definite indications. But most of those were about not wanting to randomly start lynching people day one, which may just be a misunderstanding of his and not due to any scumminess.

On August 04 2013 04:07 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
I think scam just doesn't give a fuck. If you look at this post history you can see he's been on TL a lot fairly recently, if he we're mafia he'd probably be getting a lot of pressure from his team to post. Still hard to tell though obviously since he's done nothing. He doesn't seem to responding to the pressure he's gotten, so there more's not much we can do

On August 04 2013 09:46 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
I don't want to go for scam because taking him out is too easy..it won't draw out much in the way of scumminess because everyone wants him gone. Whereas if we actually go after people who are playing we might get more info. Scam is just a lost cause. We can hope he eventually gets modkilled at some point anyway and saves us a lynch. If not, we can take him out when we feel like it. Or if we have a vigilante, they could sure do us a favor right now :p

At any rate, I think it's more productive to chase players right now, not lurkers

On August 04 2013 23:09 RDaneelOlivaw wrote:
Umasi's done a ok job of defending himself imo, agree with you on that slam. Pressure successful. Gotard next.

My reads thus far

scam- god knows what he is. May he rot in a particularly scummy mafia hell

Umasi- scum by extension--more suspicious of him because of Gotard and Deus- still just have a scummy feel from him
Gotard- scum- my reasoning hasn't changed
Deus- scummy--mostly because of the way he handled his "suspicions" of umasi - he stated that he suspected him several times throughout the early game but never elaborated on that suspicion--basically, enough to make me think that the suspicion may only be a show...his reasoning for dropping it, as zyree pointed out, is very weak.