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FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 27 2013 20:44 GMT
#2054
On July 22 2013 11:22 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I'm on a train back and it has internet. I've got 2 hours of power left, so lets see how much scumhunting I can do in that time.

I've read the thread, and I got slight scumreads on rayn and TAA. I'm gonna dive their filters now and see if I was just imagining it.

If you want me to look at something in particular, let me know. I kinda skimmed the thread, so I might've missed a bit. Really, sorry, this was a hectic and awesome trip, but I'll be back to normal activity on monday.

This post looks genuine, and as far as I can tell he's one of the first to mention TAA on D1...there wasn't heavy sentiment against TAA or anything, so this post leaves me feeling a little townish all things considered....

On July 22 2013 11:52 jrkirby wrote:
Well, I read rayn, TAA, and jarjar. Unfortunately, none of them seem extremely scummy on second look. I'm gonna check firmtofu's filter and see if rayn has anything there.

God, I'm so bad at seeing scum until the votes come in.


....nevermind.

On July 23 2013 04:48 jrkirby wrote:
Five, sign your name. Was that VE or marv? I don't know because you didn't tell me.


I noticed this at the time, but this is came directly after someone else had requested that we sign our posts...I think it was Cora after replacing in...The thing is, it seems completely pointless. Like, Cora's request was....annoying...but at the very least it seemed earnest and I know that it would actually make a difference for Cora (having played in games with BOTH me and marv, knowing who is posting what would actually mean something specifically to Cora). JRKirby hasn't played with either of myself or marv that I'm aware of, and as a result this request smacks of trying to blend in.

On July 25 2013 09:29 jrkirby wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, I've finally read up on the thread. Sorry guys, it's been a combination of lazy/tired/busy at work, and I don't post unless I've read the entire thread in chronological order. I kinda deserve all these scumreads on me because I've just been afk pretty much all day 2 .


A lot has happened during this day, so many blue claims. I'm gonna try to sum up all the claims, and if I've misread one or missed one, you guys be sure to tell me, right?

Getmoript has claimed cop, and claim to have gotten the alignment of TheAwesomeAll to be scum. Tangeng has claim VT and claimed that he's been roleblocked. Meanwhile Corazon has claimed that he's rolecop, but was unsure of his sanity and he checked himself (and got back rolecop?). Then TheAwesomeAll claims roleblocker, and claims that he's roleblocked Tangeng. Also somewhere in there Onegu claimed vigilante?

Right now most of the town is on TAA because getmoript has a claimed redcheck on him. If this redcheck turns false of course we lynch him next, but at the moment the consensus is to lynch TAA, especially because of his roleblocker claim. (perhaps he was bluefishing or trying to save himself).

Seems like the correct choice of action for me is to solidify the lynch on TAA, as he's probably scum, and if he's not, then getmoript is guaranteed scum (with the exception of firmtofu's logic).

##Unvote
##Vote: TheAwesomeAll

Honestly I don't like all these blue claims. Why on earth did Corazon claim? And Onegu? Claiming didn't help town at all. I kinda understand getmoript's claim: if you find scum let people know. And TAA I think was trying to avoid a lynch, I personally would only do that at the last minute if I were town (to let people know who you roleblocked).


And this is the vote where jrk votes TAA. I think the scummiest statement is bolded. Just something about the way he phrases it as if he should be considered for lynch that day, in spite of it saying in case TAA flips green in context. A subtle way of appealing to fear of mislynch while sprinkling doubt on the DT claim.

I'm still trying to make a read on FT's filter. As marv said, there's stuff I like and stuff I don't like. I'll write up another post on what I think, but ultimately I agree with Marv's vote on jrk.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 27 2013 20:50 GMT
#2055
Yup missed the claims.

Marv why do you say Cora probably town based on checks?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 27 2013 21:01 GMT
#2057
3 seems more reasonable than 4 to me..but I honestly can't separate confirmation bias from my perspective so take that for what it's worth.

If Cora is scum, that would make Marv and I paranoid, with a naive FT and a sane Getmo. I can see that as likely, and taken with Cora's claim of being an Investigator rather than Detective....

But if Cora is scum and jrk his partner, why not claim a check on him that could keep him from being the lynch today?

:/

I still like jrk for scum.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 27 2013 21:06 GMT
#2061
TG is player of the team if that's the case, but it's absolutely within the realm of possible to ME. Marv may disagree, but my townread on TG is heavily tied into his more recent play....

Though now that I'm sitting here thinking about it, most of what I dismissed as townie on D1 was based on the assumption that he just doesn't know what he's doing. He's displaying a completely different kind of mindset and capability recently. :/
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 27 2013 21:25 GMT
#2067
Hrmmm....why won't you be voting kirby FT?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 10:24 GMT
#2354
So... Why did you morons ignore the strongest player in the game who's clearly town? Walk me through it. Fuck me.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 15:11 GMT
#2358
Annoyingly I've had to come into work today, and I have plans later. I'm hoping I find time to work out what happened. I've not even read the thread yet, just saw who got lynched. Hoping to work out what's what before I inevitably die tonight.

~marv
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:03 GMT
#2365
Right, gonna try to catch up a bit.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:22 GMT
#2366
On July 28 2013 06:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 06:13 FirmTofu wrote:
vivax, are you out there? Can you vote today? Do you think TG/Cora is a likely scum team? Why or why not?


I posted the part I found iffy about Cora's claim alreadz. I also voted, TG.
Kirby does look odd and I found him mainly scummy for his position on the TAA wagon, if he is though, then he has been bussed, which fits into the way the DrH slot played, first push him, find a reason to shoot someone else, then push him again. I don't find DrH's slots' reasons for his read 180s very credible.

Your DT checks tell us nothing, DT should have stayed silent until he had a chance to check somebody else he was sure of being town. Now we don't know if he's insane or paranoid.

Thing is though, Cora's claim timing was scummy and looked like it was designed to save TAA, again, sub-optimal play for a DT to claim in that situation in any case. He should have kept the role secret and watched how the flip went, and then adjust his scumreads accordingly without using his role as a reason, but meh, doesn't really matter anymore.

That leads us to Cora still being alive after his claim, I don't know his checks atm, but I've gotten from the thread that he's supposedly sane?That leads us to the question why scum would leave him alive then. Cause of that, I'd probably not lynch him today and consider him for lynch if he survives another night and depending on the check he returns. Lucky for us, he can't claim RB.

As conclusion, I stick to the opinion that we should lynch TG for being alive after D1, I'm suspicious of DrH's behavior during that day, and anyone not wanting to lynch TGis banking on the fact that a flipped scum somehow missed the deadline, and not just that, cause TG's lynch wasn't exactly last minute shit.

Question: Who replaced Zephirdd? I didn't like his last post during D1.


This post is disgusting. Really disgusting. Why would Cora ever have died before getmoript, the DT with a redcheck and red-lynch?

Cora's claim timing was pretty damn townie as I've explained before. Ewwwww Vivax. Eww.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:53 GMT
#2367
I'm up to page 111. I felt compelled to temporarily abandon my read to tell everyone that if Firm isn't mafia, he's doing a fucking bang-up job of pushing mafia objectives. Christ almighty.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:55 GMT
#2369
It's not hindsight, I'd put those god damn things in the thread already.

Your play is bad because if you'd been paying any attention to the thread you'd KNOW why Corazon was alive. So you're either totally not readnig the thread or wilfully twisting what happened to make Cora look bad.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:57 GMT
#2371
Like given you replaced in, you must have had to READ the thread, and you'd have read the progression getmo claims DT -> lynches TAA -> gets killed at night -> then yesterday happened.

You should damn well KNOW why Corazon wasn't killed at night. Why didn't you know that?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 28 2013 23:58 GMT
#2372
People need to stop colouring shit in red because it just makes people look bad when they're inevitably wrong.

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 00:01 GMT
#2374
I'm going to finish reading first. I'm awake for another hour, and I'll be kinda baked for a decent part of it. le sigh.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 00:27 GMT
#2375
On July 28 2013 15:16 Onegu wrote:
How can you guys not see JrKirby is scum?


Wow... this is really horrible. God. This might be the scummiest thing I've seen so far :/

where was this conviction during the lynch??
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 00:36 GMT
#2378
Ok I'm done. This is hard to me because everyone is so O.o

I really think Firm is town actually. I think he's DT. I find a lot of what he says sincere, if wrong.

My faith in Onegu has been shaken markedly. He's really done so little. I don't know if I can be calling him scum yet, but I think everyone needs to keep in mind the possibility of a scum vigilante - his claim alone doesn't make him town.

Tangeng maybe town? ugh

kirby still looks pretty bad. austin/vivax not looking great to me either. JJD looks ok maybe?

And holy fuck Vivax has basically not been reading the thread.

On July 29 2013 09:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 08:57 FiveTouch wrote:
Like given you replaced in, you must have had to READ the thread, and you'd have read the progression getmo claims DT -> lynches TAA -> gets killed at night -> then yesterday happened.

You should damn well KNOW why Corazon wasn't killed at night. Why didn't you know that?


There was a Vanilla Rayn kill in between afaik.


On July 29 2013 09:33 Vivax wrote:
Oh and Oats.


Firstly, rayn was the n1 kill. You would know this if you even had done any basic reading of the thread.

Secondly, Oats was shot by the vigilante, how on earth would that be a reason for Corazon to die?
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 00:37 GMT
#2380
see above dear
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 00:57 GMT
#2382
Indeed. That had crossed my mind too.
Artanis & marv
FiveTouch
Profile Joined January 2013
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
July 29 2013 08:40 GMT
#2406
gg guys, sorry I couldn't be around at the right times.

glhf.
Artanis & marv
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