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gumshoe
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Vivak is virtually guaranteed vet. Please offer your thoughts on me WOS Lazer and Fuba. I think us 4 should be the candidates for todays lynch. Were much better picks than the great big ball of chaotic uncertainty that is Marv Marv how do you feel about Lynching WOS or Fuba? | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Spotty town history? lol show me gumshoe, after all you've talked about me so much this game! Oats you're going to have to tear me off this guy. Oats if you don't think we should be lynching into the blues do you think as far as fake greens it's the miller claims (ie marv and future fuba probs)? If host gave out a bunch of fakeclaims so scum would be safe I feel like it wouldn't have been that they got both millers and that there aren't any, do you? I havent talked about you because I havent had to, people have been on your ass since the moment you opened your mouth(et Fuking français est sorti). Just because I havent felt the need to be redundant and I didn't find you to be lynch number uno doesn't mean I havent been taking note. Also way to dodge the bullet points. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Gumshoe reading your post again what the ACTUAL fuck? How exactly does a blue play that you would expect me to? I'm curious. And not that it means much but I actually breadcrumbed what I'd be doing tonight. I didn't think it was a very good one at all (because I'm usually real shit at breadcrumbing) but it's possible it was picked up on. Well I didnt pick up on it, care to ask if anyone else did? In fact. Did anyone here WOS was blue? If you were scum would you role block him? Why? | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:19 Oatsmaster wrote: I feel that fuba is gonna claim survivor. scum cant claim miller now. He didnt cc marv. I dont really wanna lynch the survivor today. We are not lynching WoS or Lazer today. I could get on the gumshoe lynch A lynch on me is a lynch on WOS XD I can get behind that. Also instead of passively ignoring my argument, adress it and tell me why am I a better lynch that WOS? | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:21 Oatsmaster wrote: who cares why WoS was RBed? Someone has to be RB and I wouldnt RB a vet cause there isnt any point and maybe WoS blue slipped somewhere. So WOS happened to blue slip somewhere, get role blocked despite two open blues being in play (me and Lazer) then manage to claim the very last blue spot? Again why am I a better lynch? | ||
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gumshoe
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i think that you guys shouldve lynch WoS and that marv is town. I think WoS and you might both be scum but you are suspecting WoS. WoS, who is most likely for being scum out of the blue claimers? BECAUSE Im thinking its you for just claiming and fucking off without even mentioning ANYBODY. What has WOS done to redeem himself? His been on your periphery all game. Would you just rather arbitrarily lynch me over him? If thats the case Ima have to quote you one last time. im outta here, too much. too much. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah im thinking that rayn is town now.  Yeah, thats another thing, why the fuuk should anyone listen to you? How are you still blindly confident in your scum read? The guy you've tunneled all game long is dead. And still you choose to operate on your gut. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:28 Oatsmaster wrote: You were definetly not vig, any other blue does not have a role to block. Lazer doesnt give a result till d3, so he can be rb or killed n2. Therefore none of you wouldve been roleblocked. You are a better lynch because I liked WoS play when he came back to the thread, and I talked with him for a bit. smacks of town. You dont. You can delay Lazer by removing his first read, his initial can be role blocked. So here we are again. Scum likely have one block and they just so happen to plant it on the one guy who just so happens to be vig? And I thought lynching Vayne was a shot in the dark. Also I'm asking WOS how he could have played more blue. I'm stating that it's unlikely anyone would look at him and say, that guys vig. So the one hand we have the guy who claims and gets blocked, both out of nowhere, and has explanations. Of course he has fuucking explanations, everyone has explanations for everything. The real question is why do you buy dumb? And the real answer is Bias slash your gut. But your gut is bullshiit. Rayne was town. Dunk your head in a bucket of water man, take a gander at whats right in front of you. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote: OH YEHA RAYN IS DEAD. LLOOOL man im really bad at this. Yes. You were wrong, arrogant and blind before. And yet your acting the same way now. Your either not playing your best game or your scum and Im done trying to explain 1 plus 1 to you. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Except he did actually post something about Lazer and I missed that. every other quote is before he came back and did that stream of consciousness shit. Also there were like 20 new pages when I woke up. How is that towny? The dude speaks French at the start, he makes his arguments purposely hard to follow, his play is null at best and the current situation screams scum. Also if your scum defending him wont work / : if I go he dies anyways, and then town comes after you for bussing two townies and defending scum. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:42 Oatsmaster wrote: its hard to keep track of kills man. We are not killing WoS today. Next candidate? Until Fuba comments it's me or him(unless he doesnt, in which case him). And if its me it's also him and then I hope it's you. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote: um what? Im asking who you want to kill. what is the last sentence saying? Im saying either I die or Wos dies, unless Fuba gets somehow even more suspicious(he hasn't claimed a role yet). Also I'm willing to go because I'm take WOS with me as well | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:49 WaveofShadow wrote: HAY GUMSHOE THE BOLDED PLZ I also like how the best arguments you're coming up with right now is shit that is literally days old despite the fact that I've probably posted just as much since I came back from my absence. Like the French? That's one of your arguments? Really? The french? The stream of thought? Your posting is almost purposely obfuscated, and this whole incident? Also I never said you could play bluer. Just that I'f I was scum, and was blowing one block on say Lazer, my pick for the other would not be you unless I was picking out of a bloody hat. Which means your claim is pretty farfetched. This along with your late claim and the fact that I know Vivax is town means either you or Lazer is scum. The circumstances give you the edge, though I'd like to hear from Lazer if he got blocked as well(if he can disclose that info, not sure how his peek works) | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so you arent willing to put in effort to find other scum besides WoS? Like wtf gumshoe. I'll look at Fuba or lazer depending on what they say. The plan was to use the claim to produce conflicts. Right now Fuba and WOS are the more convincing of those conflicts. Today we deal with them as well as maybe Lazer(need to hear from him). If that means lynching me so be it. If you want to press Fuba by all means, if he doesn't say anything or hes less believable ill lynch him instead. but I'm not taking another guess when it's near certain that one of these three is scum. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote: I'll be back later on after my guy's first nightfeed. Oats for the record I think your original idea made the most sense but now I don't know what to do about the hole gumshoe has climbed into. We should at least start looking into which of the greens are the most scummy and then we can decide later on if it makes more sense to lynch blue or green. (It might make more sense to lynch blue due to simple probability but as you said it might work itself out through N2 actions so I'm not sure.) What hole? We havent hear about this from anyone else other than us three. Dont try to reverse engineer the kind of environment you need to survive the day please : P | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 11:00 Oatsmaster wrote: NO WE DONT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE RESOLVED ANYWAY N2. COME ON. Out of the none blue claimers and fuba, who do you think is scum? See this is bullshit, why do I need to present a gut based read? I did that before and I was pretty much wrong(Jar Jar) you did that before and were totally wrong (Rayne) also regarding night two this is what happens. Vixax loses his last life because we have no Landa, scum kill one of the greens, probably you or maybe Jar Jar who knows. What they will not do is kill me Lazer or WOS because they can rollblock Wos AND Lazer if need be and they're not stupid enough to give away one of they're own. Nothing will resolve itself, Marv was hoping it would yesterday and it didn't, but that's fine because that was at night. This is day, we cannot idly sit by and hope scum do our job for us. They wont. Killing just one scum drastically increases our odds of success by reducing they're kp. So why look anywhere else when blues and Fuba are our best bets? They are the reason we revealed and nullified our cop and vig. Why would we let them get away? BTW if you want another read I made one on Marv, but I'm not lynching outside of Lazer WOS or Fuba because one of them is scum(unless fuba fights a claimee) and our job as town is to lynch scum, not whoever we feel shiity about, in case you forgot. | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 11:30 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont care about your gut based reads. I dont think you understand what I mean. How the game is played isnt through sifting through claims, its through looking at peoples posting and seeing if they are playing to promote a scum objective rather than trying to find scum themselves. The scum have two kp and all the blues are outed, at this point all they need to do is survive the day and it's effectively gg. They're only agenda is survival. I am not looking through claims, I am pointing out that one of us blues is scum and WOS is the most suspicious. I am the second, lynch me or him and you will find scum either way. Vivax is blue 100 percent, if you cant convince me Lazer is more suspicious than me or WOS than thats that. Try and steer me away and your pretty much just a hypocrite, nobody tunnels as hard as you. The difference is I know for a fact either Lazer or WOS (or hell, both) is scum. If you suspect me more than them than go ahead and lynch me. | ||
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gumshoe
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4 blues? WOS himself called bull on that. Also stop trying to assuage me, I'm supposed to be channeling you. | ||
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On July 03 2013 11:51 Oatsmaster wrote: WoS is host? Anyway, the question is, is scum going all in on this? hmm No, Wos knows cause WOS is scum. And no I'm not sure that they'res not more blues than they're are scum and that all blue roles are in play. After all They're is a thin line between knowing and thinking, still, vote WOS : P. The idea that they're are four blues coupled with the idea that the role called last coupled with the farfetched notion that mafia role blocked him(randomly essentially, he said it himself, he wasn't trying to play blue) also WOS was immediately of the opinion that one of the blues was fake. Ladies and gents we have a problem here. There are some fakeclaimers amongst the blues as I am Donny Donowitz. I'm assuming since the shot I took at marv didn't go through I was roleblocked. Vivax were you notified of your hit? There is no way in hell all the blue roles are present in this game so some people are lying. Why was he so sure? You attacked Rayne for a lesser supposed insight regarding miller odds, yet here comes WOS guns blazing certain of a fight. He knows they're isn't a 4th blue cause hes the fake and hes trying to take the aggressive stance because he knows hes going to be challenged, and hes getting challenged because hes scum. Also hes claiming blue because it's easier than claiming a specific role and having scum be either A or B, claiming the extra blue role would be a struggling scums best bet. In general Believing that WOS is not scum and blue requires a great deal of suspension of disbelief, why not just go Occums razor on this guys ass? | ||
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gumshoe
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On July 03 2013 12:25 Oatsmaster wrote: I gonna ignore the second bit cause thats pure speculation and confirmation biased. RB's d1 are normally random unless there is a blue slip or whatever. Scum got lucky. Good for them. WoS is the last to claim cause hes unlucky. Normal mini games have 2-3 blues. This game, there are 4 claimed blues. Its reasonable to think that 1 is fake. You are crazy tunneled not even on his play, on speculation and making up a theory that fits your assumption that WoS is scum. Ok so WoS is scum, and the scumteam decided to withhold their RB and for WoS to claim last. The reason why this is not really what I wouldve done as scum is because its obvious you are vengeful townie, and its obvious after the blocked KP that there is a vet. So vig is an easy claim. So therefore, the fact that WoS claimed last has nothing to do with his alignment. You admit that 4 blues is unlikely. You admit scum is extraordinarily likely. You admit likewise that luck once again struck poor WOS when he claimed the last role. Also Your case on Rayne was based on similarly biased speculation of impossible knowledge, you have no right to lecture me about that. WOS does not even consider the possibility of four blues until his head is on the chopping block. Again your asking me to take extraordinary leaps of rationalization. I am telling you it's bull and it's not going to happen. Also thinking about what you would do as scum is complete Wifom, and incredibly hypocritical considering what you just called me out on. Why are you using it to rebut facts? Oh and before you call me out on something else stupid my bilief that scum would kill vixax and leave the rest of the blues behind alive but neutered isn't WIFOM, it's just common sense provided were dumb enough not to lynch one of the blues today. BTW do you still think the situation will resolve itself night 2? If so your an idiot. | ||
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